How would you handle this situation?

[jellyfish10]

I’ve been going to the same gym for almost 30 year, minus a break here and there. Said gym has a co-ed sauna that seats 7ish if it’s full. Well, Mean Gene has been going for much of my tenure. 75 years old, Vietnam vet, and an angry prick of a human.

He has been kicked out before for making racial, sexist statements. Lately, his behavior has become more demonstrative.

Today I’m sitting in there with a few people and Gene. Three younger guys walk in and Gene starts losing his shit about the door being open. I told Gene to chill the fvck out, but the younger dudes weren’t having it. One them told him to shut the fvck up, and fvck around and find out. He did shut up, but just stared at me like he was ready to roll.

I went to report him but no management works weekend afternoons. This is not an isolated incident. He has become more brazen in his words/actions and strikes me as someone that wouldn’t think twice about shooting the place up. He has apparently threatened violence before.

Is reporting him enough? Do I let him get the shit kicked out of him next time? Or do I just bang his daughter and get it over with.

 

[NoleATL]

Too many variables. Need a pic of the 3 younger guys.

 

[jellyfish10]

Too many variables. Need a pic of the 3 younger guys.

All 3 are put together. I wouldn’t call any of the three super handsome although, one of the other dudes involved, maybe 30ish, is ripped and very handsome. I have no pics.

 

[bagdropper]

Look at it this way. Reporting it, I presume anyway, gets it on the gym's record in some fashion. I realize that mgmt wasn't there at that time - but if you had decided to, get the names of the other younglings to collaborate your report. Hopefully they have a process for this even when they're not actually in the gym.

The more of these reports total up, the more likely his ass gets kicked out for good.

As always though, your call.

 

[NoleATL]

All 3 are put together. I wouldn’t call any of the three super handsome although, one of the other dudes involved, maybe 30ish, is ripped and very handsome. I have no pics.

Good enough. I would again tell management, maybe add you feel he is a time bomb waiting to go off. Then there is nothing else you can do unless a specific situation happens where you can physically intervene.

 

[jellyfish10]

Look at it this way. Reporting it, I presume anyway, gets it on the gym's record in some fashion. I realize that mgmt wasn't there at that time - but if you had decided to, get the names of the other younglings to collaborate your report.

The more of these reports total up, the more likely his ass gets kicked out for good.

As always though, your call.

Yes I did that. I talked to 1 of the younger kids, the main one involved, the handsome fella, and one of the regulars that has had to protect a special needs woman from Gene.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Steer clear of Gene and don't go to the Y while he's there if his personality bothers you. If you report him, odds are he'll know it was you and you're immediately at the top of his kill list.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

So three buff dudes in their 30’s wanted to throw down with a 75yr old?

 

[jellyfish10]

So three buff dudes in their 30’s wanted to throw down with a 70 yr old?

He started chewing them out for no reason other than he doesn’t understand the concept of a community sauna. People are free to come and go as they please but that doesn’t sit well with Gene.

 

[jellyfish10]

Ok Gene.

 

[jellyfish10]

Ask him to step outside, pussy. 😉

I’m anti-violence, but I wasn’t going to stop him from getting his ass kicked had it come to that.

 

[bdg8]

Having a member like the old guy isn’t worth his membership fee. Tell them to finally kick his ass to the curb

 

[PoopandBoogers]

Having a member like the old guy

Finally, an answer to what we were all thinking after reading the op's first paragraph.

 

[JRHawk2003]

I know a guy like that.

Wait for sometime when you are alone with him. Come up behind him, and do him before he does you.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

He started chewing them out for no reason other than he doesn’t understand the concept of a community sauna. People are free to come and go as they please but that doesn’t sit well with Gene.

I’d usually just ignore the grumpy old geriatric dude….

 

[JWolf74]

I bet gene is a Trumper.




There. Now it's a proper HORT thread.

 

[JupiterHawk]

 

[jellyfish10]

I bet gene is a Trumper.




There. Now it's a proper HORT thread.

He is.

 

[Pete Malloy]

Mean Gene would probably kick their asses. I would recommend you mind your own business and let the 3 younger dudes learn a life lesson the hard way.

 

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[MitchLL]

He is.

To no one's surprise.

 

[jellyfish10]

Mean Gene would probably kick their asses. I would recommend you mind your own business and let the 3 younger dudes learn a life lesson the hard way.

Lol ok Pete.

 

[jellyfish10]

I’d usually just ignore the grumpy old geriatric dude….

This was my philosophy for a long time, but again he has grown more brazen with his hatred.

 

[NoleinATL]

There is only one option that will make everyone happy: Purchase the gym

First, purchase the gym, required to start step two.
Second, begin a small remodel project
Third, have your attorney develop a policy and procedures manual that includes code of conduct rules for membership.

End result
The remodel will improve the facilities, maybe include a nice pilates studio, which is a proven revenue generator with the added bonus of improved scenery. In addition, create a sauna area with small iso saunas.

The iso saunas will allow you to honor a cranky old Vietnam Vet giving him his privacy and complete control of his sauna door. Added bonus, you and your fellow gym friends no longer have to worry about an unwanted spectator, when you guys are "taking a sauna"

Best of luck with the remodel!!

 

[NoleATL]

This was my philosophy for a long time, but again he has grown more brazen with his hatred.

I'd say he could use a good pop in the mouth (not by you) but it might kill him.

 

[jellyfish10]

There is only one option that will make everyone happy: Purchase the gym

First, purchase the gym, required to start step two.
Second, begin a small remodel project
Third, have your attorney develop a policy and procedures manual that includes code of conduct rules for membership.

End result
The remodel will improve the facilities, maybe include a nice pilates studio, which is a proven revenue generator with the added bonus of improved scenery. In addition, create a sauna area with small iso saunas.

The iso saunas will allow you to honor a cranky old Vietnam Vet giving him his privacy and complete control of his sauna door. Added bonus, you and your fellow gym friends no longer have to worry about an unwanted spectator, when you guys are "taking a sauna"

Best of luck with the remodel!!

If you wanna Venmo me, let’s say 5 million, I’ll get the ball rolling. TIA!

 

[lucas80]

I’ve been going to the same gym for almost 30 year, minus a break here and there. Said gym has a co-ed sauna that seats 7ish if it’s full. Well, Mean Gene has been going for much of my tenure. 75 years old, Vietnam vet, and an angry prick of a human.

He has been kicked out before for making racial, sexist statements. Lately, his behavior has become more demonstrative.

Today I’m sitting in there with a few people and Gene. Three younger guys walk in and Gene starts losing his shit about the door being open. I told Gene to chill the fvck out, but the younger dudes weren’t having it. One them told him to shut the fvck up, and fvck around and find out. He did shut up, but just stared at me like he was ready to roll.

I went to report him but no management works weekend afternoons. This is not an isolated incident. He has become more brazen in his words/actions and strikes me as someone that wouldn’t think twice about shooting the place up. He has apparently threatened violence before.

Is reporting him enough? Do I let him get the shit kicked out of him next time? Or do I just bang his daughter and get it over with.

PTSD angry prick, or just does it come natural to him?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Just because he is a crusty old vet does not give him the luxury of being a complet asshole.

He needs to be put out to pasture

 

[Tom Paris]

So three buff dudes in their 30’s wanted to throw down with a 70 yr old?

Oh good Lord…here enters Mr. Contrary.

 

[jellyfish10]

PTSD angry prick, or just does it come natural to him?

Well I didn’t know him before he went to Nam since, ya know, I’m not 75.

 

[Scott559]

I would probably just exit Sauna when Gene enters.

 

[jellyfish10]

I would probably just exit Sauna when Gene enters.

NFW. Everyone of age has the right to be in there without fear. I’m not gonna let that crotchety old fvck impact my freedom.

Btw, I just talked to a buddy of mine that knows a little bit about Gene. He told me that Gene is 100% armed and would be worried about him shooting the place up. His sentiment is not the first time I have heard that.

 

[Scott559]

NFW. Everyone of age has the right to be in there without fear. I’m not gonna let that crotchety old fvck impact my freedom.

Btw, I just talked to a buddy of mine that knows a little bit about Gene. He told me that Gene is 100% armed and would be worried about him shooting the place up. His sentiment is not the first time I have heard that.

I agree you have the right and freedom, You have also expressed several times that you feel Gene is unstable and possibly dangerous, Risk vs reward seems to factor into the equation.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Clearly if he is sauna, he is not packing at that time. Let him assault someone and get perma-banned. If I was one of those young dudes I would have told him off as well.

 

[mustang_hawk]

NFW. Everyone of age has the right to be in there without fear. I’m not gonna let that crotchety old fvck impact my freedom.

Btw, I just talked to a buddy of mine that knows a little bit about Gene. He told me that Gene is 100% armed and would be worried about him shooting the place up. His sentiment is not the first time I have heard that.

I would just find another place to workout. That way when his lid blows you’re sure to be out of the line of fire.

 

[TylerJ84]

No women in coed sauna?


Lame.

 

[jellyfish10]

Clearly if he is sauna, he is not packing at that time. Let him assault someone and get perma-banned. If I was one of those young dudes I would have told him off as well.

Not in the sauna, no. But said friend believes Gene keeps a firearm(s). He’s hard to explain unless you have been around him. He seems like the type that would shower, walk out to his truck, a light up whoever he felt like without a care in the world.

 

[lucas80]

Well I didn’t know him before he went to Nam since, ya know, I’m not 75.

Just saying, PTSD manifests itself in a lot of ways. I don't excuse behavior, but if he's a combat vet, and the responses seem irrational there might be a root cause that you and management should be sensitive to. And, again, that doesn't mean you just shrug it off.

 

[jellyfish10]

No women in coed sauna?


Lame.

Sadly I don’t pick and choose who gets to come in and when. It’s complete bullshit.

 

[Derekd3408]

Well I didn’t know him before he went to Nam since, ya know, I’m not 75.

Does he wear cargo shorts and has he gotten a hand job in them?