Yeah, other than all that, he's rock solid...
I am not optimistic for next season with none or one and done Fran.
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The two forwards for Richmond had 33 points combined on 11/22 shooting..one of them was PMAC responsibility.
Pmac was making baskets and 7/17 and 18pts, so he wasn't reason we lost, but his defense rebounding are negative factors. He could play better defense/rebound more, but he chooses to stay away from contact. His dad is okay with that.
It was a good season in many respects, but after 12 years of Fran, some of us are left wanting more....i.e. more ncaa success. Fran isn't on any hotseat, just some of the fan base is getting restless.
I don’t get the pessimism. We had these exact same conversations last year. I expect to at least be in the bubble conversation next year.
Why post the combined stats for the Richmond forwards if Pat was only responsible for one of them (Burton)? How many of Burton’s 18 points over 40 minutes (on 4/11 shooting) were scored during Pat’s 25 minutes? Less? Pat was a net positive.
Patrick had 114 total rebound in 32 games. He also had 23 total fouls on the year, 5 of those in one game. So, as a forward, he had 18 fouls in 32 games and I imagine there are some offensive fouls in there. Says a lot about defense and aggressiveness.
that stat is absolutely mind-blowing. There’s zero intensity on defense with him.
Overall, I'm optimistic about the future of Iowa Men's BB. This season was a good example IMO. Despite losing a lot (Garza, Joe W, Nunge and CJ) and despite low expectations from experts, this was a successful season, with a winning conference record and BTT. Yes, we're all disappointed in the early exit from the Dance, but we got to the Dance when many felt we wouldn't. It seems like Fran is getting recruits who are more versatile and more athletic, allowing us to play more man and switch all or most screens. Next year's incoming players - Bowen and Dix - seem to fit this mold. (Our defense efficiency DID improve over the last half of the B10 season.) Overall, instead of rebuilding, we're reloading. Keep in mind that we've finished top half of the B10 nine of the last 10 years which typically has put us in a position to dance. I am optimistic that Fran and the Hawks will eventually break through and advance to the 2nd weekend of the Dance and beyond in the future.
Funny how not winning the BTT was a huge liability for McCaffery until he did. Now it's meaningless. Given how happy the team members looked after the game, I doubt it was meaningless to them.
Some of you guys have a cold reality you are just going to have to face, whether you like it or not. Barta just gave McCaffery an extension to his contract that takes him to near the end of this decade. Even if he hadn't, no one in their right mind would fire a coach that just won twenty six games, won their conference tournament championship and has had only two losing seasons in the twelve years he's been at your school. Not to mention producing several B1G first team players and a B1GPOY (should have been two!) and a NPOY. These are facts, which unfortunately for you cancel out your dislike for the coach (and his family). I seriously doubt you could find a single Hawk fan that is happy with McCaffery's NCAA Tournament record, including the gut punch that occurred this year, but in the greater scheme of it all, given what he has accomplished here, it just does not add up to a firing offense no matter how long you hold your breath and pound your fists.
Some of you guys have a cold reality you are just going to have to face, whether you like it or not. Barta just gave McCaffery an extension to his contract that takes him to near the end of this decade. Even if he hadn't, no one in their right mind would fire a coach that just won twenty six games, won their conference tournament championship and has had only two losing seasons in the twelve years he's been at your school. Not to mention producing several B1G first team players and a B1GPOY (should have been two!) and a NPOY. These are facts, which unfortunately for you cancel out your dislike for the coach (and his family). I seriously doubt you could find a single Hawk fan that is happy with McCaffery's NCAA Tournament record, including the gut punch that occurred this year, but in the greater scheme of it all, given what he has accomplished here, it just does not add up to a firing offense no matter how long you hold your breath and pound your fists.
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I'm sorry you don't understand what that indicates, especially for a forward. The stat is actually astounding.
NCAA basketball is all about matchups and hot hands in March.
In the last two seasons, Calipari has 0 postseason wins after having either the 1st or 2nd ranked recruiting class for the last 4 years
you have to admit we were coming in hot in march. Several pundits had us in the final 4.
It's the same argument we have with football; would we rather be content with good but not great or take a risk with a new coach who may actually do worse?
Agree 100%. Thought this would actually be the year we win a couple. Figured after halftime we’d get hot again and run away with it.
Was just trying to make the point that a one and done type setup can hurt any team on any day.
IMO FM proves almost every year he will not play his top 5 players together for extended periods because of his offspring and/or because of longevity/misplaced loyalty. His player rotations are bizarre to say the least. I expect next year to be same as previous years ending with a thud. JMO
I don't give a rat's ass if any posters on this site are optimistic about Iowa next year.
I wonder why his dad was chewing him out on the sideline? What did you hear in the huddle or in the locker room at halftime?
Wow, I wonder how he keeps winning 20 games a year or more? 26 this year, second most in school history. He must either be a hell of a recruiter or he’s just an incredible coach.
Marty Schottenheimer was a great regular season coach for the Chiefs but one of the worst post season coaches.
The formula is the problem. Fran’s formula does not work in the tournament. You gotta defend like your life depends on it. You gotta keep the ball in front of you at all times. And you gotta have a bunch of guards who can get to the hole.
Look at the teams left in the tournament. Exactly none of them play the way we do. Exactly none of them recruit the way we do. We play/recruit a bunch of lanky slow footed forwards that allow the opposing teams guards a free run at the rim unmolested, and if not, we help off and set the opposing big man for lobs and easy baskets.
You can bang your fists all day about 26 wins and the big ten tournament. Great. Fran has no intention of changing - which means this season’s performance is pretty much the ceiling. Judging by how the fans received this season - we averaged less than 11K per game - fans are ready for something new.
Look at the teams left in the tournament. Exactly none of them play the way we do. Exactly none of them recruit the way we do. We play/recruit a bunch of lanky slow footed forwards that allow the opposing teams guards a free run at the rim unmolested, and if not, we help off and set the opposing big man for lobs and easy baskets.
You can bang your fists all day about 26 wins and the big ten tournament. Great. Fran has no intention of changing - which means this season’s performance is pretty much the ceiling. Judging by how the fans received this season - we averaged less than 11K per game - fans are ready for something new.
We played an embarrassing pre conference schedule. Did it help our long term success probably but it also pads the w/l record.
Iowa won 16 B1G games this year. Try again.
We were also 12-2 against BIG 10 competition from the beginning of February through the B10 tournament!…..holy crap!…….I’m sure there’s something disparaging that some of our “fans” can say about that as well.
One son is averaging 22.75 wins over four years and the other is averaging 24 wins between two seasons. Jack can’t get to Iowa fast enough.
You are exactly correct.
However, let's put it another way - would you rather be angry about the status quo or try to enjoy the successes along the way?
Neither coach is going anywhere.
Hmmmm, let me try -
1. The B1G sucks, everyone knows it.
2. The teams Iowa played always had at least 3 guys hurt. Maybe it was 4.
3. The wore the ugly gold uniforms to often.
4. 12-2? Why the heck not 13-1? Losers. If we had better players and coaches we would have won them all.
5. PMac didn't get a rebound at an important time. JBo missed a 3. Fran's an idiot.
6. Two of those wins were against NW. They don't count.
The bottom line - Iowa needs better coaches, better players, more young fans that go the games and a better arena.
You must have read their posts before…lol.Hmmmm, let me try -
1. The B1G sucks, everyone knows it.
2. The teams Iowa played always had at least 3 guys hurt. Maybe it was 4.
3. The wore the ugly gold uniforms to often.
4. 12-2? Why the heck not 13-1? Losers. If we had better players and coaches we would have won them all.
5. PMac didn't get a rebound at an important time. JBo missed a 3. Fran's an idiot.
6. Two of those wins were against NW. They don't count.
The bottom line - Iowa needs better coaches, better players, more young fans that go the games and a better arena.
Keegan and Kris belong on the floor in any scheme - they play like guards the way they can handle the ball. Tyler was suited as a center. Preferably you find 3 or 4 good guards to surround them with. We play too many lineups with 3 or 4 forwards instead of 3 or 4 guards
So Keegan and Kris play like guards, but they don’t count as guards when they’re on the floor with at least two other guards?
Fran the last 3 years especially has relied on the small ball lineup, with just one big (or none) on the court at a time.
We managed what, 4 quad one victories out of those 16 and 2 of those were in the BTT. Stop the presses…
This team has the opportunity to play a lot more games in the regular season than a couple of decades ago so the 2nd most victories ever crowd rings very hollow too.
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