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If Cade starts next week…

Yeah, natural reaction to a 42-10 win against Bucky Badger is to start a threat bitching about something KF has not yet done.
In a nutshell right there. Just like the losers early in the first quarter bitching up a storm and betting we'd lose big. Biggest bunch of bipolar pussies out there. Can't even get through the 1st quarter and we have "fans" throwing in the towel....
 
I’d love to give him the benefit of the doubt but I simply can’t.

1) Most telling, his comment about Sullivan’s intentional grounding play. Really?? It actually was a decent decision in reality. Didnt put the ball in harms way and at least attempted to avoid a sack which would have been the same result.

2) He’s gaslit us all by saying Cade gives the best chance to win. It’s simply not true.

3) He’s said at least twice Cade is still working into shape. Why?? You’ve got someone with at least as good of an arm and MILES more mobility.

4) It’s not like Sullivan was a complete unknown, he had a decent track record.


Some of you, which I can understand to a degree, are wondering why someone is pissed off after a big win like this. I’m pissed off because we should be in the position for the playoffs right now and not settling for meaningless trophy games.
Oh don't get me wrong. I'm not happy it took an injury to make things right. And I don't doubt that this is eating Kirk up inside. But facts are facts. He can't bring Cade back now. It would cost him the team, the fanbase, and probably his job. So anything suggesting that he might is just dumb.
 
I’d love to give him the benefit of the doubt but I simply can’t.

1) Most telling, his comment about Sullivan’s intentional grounding play. Really?? It actually was a decent decision in reality. Didnt put the ball in harms way and at least attempted to avoid a sack which would have been the same result.

2) He’s gaslit us all by saying Cade gives the best chance to win. It’s simply not true.

3) He’s said at least twice Cade is still working into shape. Why?? You’ve got someone with at least as good of an arm and MILES more mobility.

4) It’s not like Sullivan was a complete unknown, he had a decent track record.


Some of you, which I can understand to a degree, are wondering why someone is pissed off after a big win like this. I’m pissed off because we should be in the position for the playoffs right now and not settling for meaningless trophy games.
Please. Please, if you are really a fan of Iowa football, not Kirk fan, but Iowa football, then Please go out to practice on Monday and ask those players how meaningless those trophys and the last few games are. Please do that, and the report back. Frankly, to use a line from a Few Good Men, "I don't give a DAMN, what you think you are entitled too". The players play, and the coaches coach, and that 150 or so people have WAY more invested in what those games, trophys, and the blood, sweat and tears THEY leave on the field mean. If its important to them then its important. Whether you or I care is pretty damn meaningless in the big picture.
 
It was highly doubtful after last week. Tonight sealed the deal.
Kirk is sooooo close to Woody's record that he can taste it. Now that elevating Brian's career is off the table, that record is the only thing left for him to achieve. Given the ease of which the Sullivan led offense destroyed Wisconsin I think Kirk's sense of self achievement overrides the loyalty to McNamara.
 
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Kirk is sooooo close to Woody's record that he can taste it. Now that elevating Brian's career is off the table, that record is the only thing left for him to achieve. Given the ease of which the Sullivan led offense destroyed Wisconsin I think Kirk's sense of self achievement overrides the loyalty to McNamara.
Yeah, no.
 
There needs to be a real protest of some sort for the Nebraska game. Everyone and I mean everyone can see the difference Sullivan makes except for one stubborn man.
I don’t think he can start Cade next week. I believe KF’s job is now on the line. You said it yourself, everyone can see the difference. Not just the fans, but boosters, the Athletic Department, and other teams around the nation.

If KF starts Cade next week, Sully is almost certainly gone. Some school will pay him big money to be their QB.

I don’t think KF would coach past this season if that were to happen. The boosters will want him gone and so will Beth and the AD.

Everyone saw what just happened tonight. People are pissed.
 
Please. Please, if you are really a fan of Iowa football, not Kirk fan, but Iowa football, then Please go out to practice on Monday and ask those players how meaningless those trophys and the last few games are. Please do that, and the report back. Frankly, to use a line from a Few Good Men, "I don't give a DAMN, what you think you are entitled too". The players play, and the coaches coach, and that 150 or so people have WAY more invested in what those games, trophys, and the blood, sweat and tears THEY leave on the field mean. If its important to them then its important. Whether you or I care is pretty damn meaningless in the big picture.


If only winning was as important to Kirk as it is his players, what a coincidence the defense looked completely disengaged and finished with this sh*t during the MSU game and has been playing lights out since Sullivan started.

If only Kirk was “as invested” as the players and not completely stubborn, the players would be playing far more meaningful games right now, instead a chunk of them are going to being opting out of a meaningless bowl game. Shame on pure stubbornness.
 
the team needs to take a scene out of Rudy where they all turn in their jerseys at KFs desk if Cade is named the starter.

Start with Kaleb Johnson, then the punter, then Phil Parker should also stop by his office and turn in his headset. By then KF might bend.
I remember hearing Joe Montana dismantling the many myths of "Rudy." No player gave up a jersey for him to play.
 
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Please. Please, if you are really a fan of Iowa football, not Kirk fan, but Iowa football, then Please go out to practice on Monday and ask those players how meaningless those trophys and the last few games are. Please do that, and the report back. Frankly, to use a line from a Few Good Men, "I don't give a DAMN, what you think you are entitled too". The players play, and the coaches coach, and that 150 or so people have WAY more invested in what those games, trophys, and the blood, sweat and tears THEY leave on the field mean. If its important to them then its important. Whether you or I care is pretty damn meaningless in the big picture.
Do you think that they’d rather be playing for the playoffs or the Outback Bowl?
 
I don’t think he can start Cade next week. I believe KF’s job is now on the line. You said it yourself, everyone can see the difference. Not just the fans, but boosters, the Athletic Department, and other teams around the nation.

If KF starts Cade next week, Sully is almost certainly gone. Some school will pay him big money to be their QB.

I don’t think KF would coach past this season if that were to happen. The boosters will want him gone and so will Beth and the AD.

Everyone saw what just happened tonight. People are pissed.
Iowa boosters are either the poorest or the stingiest of all P5 schools. This isn’t Texas A&M, who will pay nearly 9 figures for a coach to go away and not bat an eye. Iowa is unwilling to fork over 8 figures.
 
Yeah, natural reaction to a 42-10 win against Bucky Badger is to start a threat bitching about something KF has not yet done.
If Sully had started the season we’d be 8-1 now and playing for a playoff spot. Kirk pooped the bed on this one, as usual.
If only winning was as important to Kirk as it is his players, what a coincidence the defense looked completely disengaged and finished with this sh*t during the MSU game and has been playing lights out since Sullivan started.

If only Kirk was “as invested” as the players and not completely stubborn, the players would be playing far more meaningful games right now, instead a chunk of them are going to being opting out of a meaningless bowl game. Shame on pure stubbornness.
Sullivan’s ability to lead the offense and keep it on the field gives the defense more time to regroup and come in fired up and ready to play.
 
If Kirk tries to start Cade at UCLA I will call My CIA Buddies and have them UPS red Me the cocktail they gave Joe before the Dark Brandon speech , all senility will be gone for the 3 hours needed to get thru the game , Quit stressing a couple of OL will hold Him down and I will whisper nicely You will feel just a little pinch , there all over , here is a new slice of gum, PS OL , wait 10 minutes before You let this bull loose , He might hump a few legs .
 
Some of you just can't ever be happy. It's pathetic.

Yeah wanting to get into the college playoff is pathetic. Top 10 defense. #2 RB in country. #1 Returner in country. Competent OC. Improved O Line.

6-3 sounds awesome!!

It was as obvious as the day is long that Sully had tons more up side with his running ability. He is certainly not a step backward as a passer either.

I love how we are playing now but am bitter that we will not even be close to getting into the CFP.
 
Dumb post. The only way Cade sees the field again is if Sullivan is knocked out.

1. Sullivan never came out of the NW or Wisconsin game with 2nd team guys in.
2. Cade got hurt and that's the ONLY reason why he lost his job.
3. Kirk took shots at the mistakes Sullivan made at halftime and the post game. I have never heard him talk about an individual's mistakes.
4. He said on the broadcast (I guess, I was at the game) that he is looking forward to Cade being back.

It's happening. I would put money on it... not much, but some...

And I will be furious.
 
If Cade starts next week. We'll win. With this running attack, we'll be fine.
with cade we won’t have nearly the same running attack

i wonder if kirk’s worried that too much success for sullivan may cause other schools to offer large sums of money for next year leaving us in a tough spot. sullivan’s played well enough so far for even oregon to try for him next year
 
I will be at the Rose Bowl so I will boo

Do it loud enough to represent all of us. I swear this gif was designed for KF.

This Is Fine GIF
 
3. Kirk took shots at the mistakes Sullivan made at halftime and the post game. I have never heard him talk about an individual's mistakes.
4. He said on the broadcast (I guess, I was at the game) that he is looking forward to Cade being back.
I missed this. Anyone have links? (honest question)
 
What you must understand is the running game is more successful because the defense has respect Sullivan on the edge. It keeps the DE from crashing down into play . It’s a huge difference
A lot of people don't understand that with Sully the defense has to defend the QB and RB completely different as opposed to having a QB that is even little threat to run a sneak.
 
If only winning was as important to Kirk as it is his players, what a coincidence the defense looked completely disengaged and finished with this sh*t during the MSU game and has been playing lights out since Sullivan started.

If only Kirk was “as invested” as the players and not completely stubborn, the players would be playing far more meaningful games right now, instead a chunk of them are going to being opting out of a meaningless bowl game. Shame on pure stubbornness.

If only winning was as important to Kirk as it is his players, what a coincidence the defense looked completely disengaged and finished with this sh*t during the MSU game and has been playing lights out since Sullivan started.

If only Kirk was “as invested” as the players and not completely stubborn, the players would be playing far more meaningful games right now, instead a chunk of them are going to being opting out of a meaningless bowl game. Shame on pure stubbornness.
Please. The guys made plenty of mistakes but saying he's not "invested" and he doesn;t want to win is just stupid and wrong. Again ask the 149 other guys who work with him if he's invested and wants to win. Doesn't matter one bit either. Lose a game or win by 32 points and its still the same shit on here...
 
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1. Sullivan never came out of the NW or Wisconsin game with 2nd team guys in.
2. Cade got hurt and that's the ONLY reason why he lost his job.
3. Kirk took shots at the mistakes Sullivan made at halftime and the post game. I have never heard him talk about an individual's mistakes.
4. He said on the broadcast (I guess, I was at the game) that he is looking forward to Cade being back.

It's happening. I would put money on it... not much, but some...

And I will be furious.
I heard KF halftime calling out Sully’s “mistake” .. I didn’t catch his post game gripe of Sully… what did he say post game?
 
I missed this. Anyone have links? (honest question)
Heard the halftime loud and clear.. tv broadcast.. reporter was like, wow, Sully is playing good; how about Sully? KF : said something like “he made a big mistake, but played good”
 
1. Sullivan never came out of the NW or Wisconsin game with 2nd team guys in.
2. Cade got hurt and that's the ONLY reason why he lost his job.
3. Kirk took shots at the mistakes Sullivan made at halftime and the post game. I have never heard him talk about an individual's mistakes.
4. He said on the broadcast (I guess, I was at the game) that he is looking forward to Cade being back.

It's happening. I would put money on it... not much, but some...

And I will be furious.
Huge difference between Kirk wanting to make a change and actually doing it. Cade is done at Iowa. That ship has sailed. Even a blind man can see that.
 
His big mistake didn’t result in a momentum changing turnover.

It was equivalent to getting sacked. I wonder how many times Cade would have been sacked, effectively ending drives.

KF hates QB’s that can extend plays. It’s like he always assumes the worst will happen. He’d rather just take the sack and punt.
 
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