Interesting development, only three Big 12 schools refused to....

[MesaClone]

...commit to a new GOR extension amongst the remaining eight Big 12 teams at a conference zoom meeting today (which could not be signed until a new contract was reached...but the idea was a "commitment" to such).

The general idea of such a move being to look at bringing in 2 new schools...rumored as BYU/Houston.

Anyway...the three schools who would not consider such an extension were.....Iowa State and Kansas and WVU. Fascinating.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

 

[01Hawk05]

I wouldn’t want to commit to a non power 5 conference either.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

...commit to a new GOR extension amongst the remaining eight Big 12 teams at a conference zoom meeting today (which could not be signed until a new contract was reached...but the idea was a "commitment" to such).

The general idea of such a move being to look at bringing in 2 new schools...rumored as BYU/Houston.

Anyway...the three schools who would not consider such an extension were.....Iowa State and Kansas and WVU. Fascinating.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

Sounds like the Clones have accepted their fate & they’re holding out for a Mountain West offer.

ISU has the facilities to be relevant in the MWC but I just don’t think they can compete in this conference.

They’ll be a mid tier MWC team.

 

[MesaClone]

Sounds like the Clones have accepted their fate & they’re holding out for a Mountain West offer.

ISU has the facilities to be relevant in the MWC but I just don’t think they can compete in this conference.

They’ll be a mid tier MWC team.

Iowa State had better football attendance in 2019 (fan support) than all but one PAC 12 team...Washington. Its facilities are at a level with mid-range B1G teams as of today. I realize you're "trolling" but that's pretty weak sauce.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Iowa State had better football attendance in 2019 (fan support) than all but one PAC 12 team...Washington. Its facilities are at a level with mid-range B1G teams as of today. I realize you're "trolling" but that's pretty weak sauce.

Say derp?! I said ISU has the facilities to compete in the Mountain West just not the athletes.

I can think of 4 programs that are better than ISU in the Mountain West.

 

[elipse]

...commit to a new GOR extension amongst the remaining eight Big 12 teams at a conference zoom meeting today (which could not be signed until a new contract was reached...but the idea was a "commitment" to such).

The general idea of such a move being to look at bringing in 2 new schools...rumored as BYU/Houston.

Anyway...the three schools who would not consider such an extension were.....Iowa State and Kansas and WVU. Fascinating.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

...commit to a new GOR extension amongst the remaining eight Big 12 teams at a conference zoom meeting today (which could not be signed until a new contract was reached...but the idea was a "commitment" to such).

The general idea of such a move being to look at bringing in 2 new schools...rumored as BYU/Houston.

Wow! Riveting news from Ames……

 

[BioHawk]

Sounds like the Clones have accepted their fate & they’re holding out for a Mountain West offer.

ISU has the facilities to be relevant in the MWC but I just don’t think they can compete in this conference.

They’ll be a mid tier MWC team.

ISU needs to be giving the AAC a call. At this point, I think the Big 12 might have issues trying to get anyone to leave that conference. The future there is brighter than the Big 12, imo. It has a presence in far more larger markets. Their team would have been a legitimate contender in just about any conference not named the SEC the last 5 years or so.

 

[MesaClone]

ISU needs to be giving the AAC a call. At this point, I think the Big 12 might have issues trying to get anyone to leave that conference. The future there is brighter than the Big 12, imo. It has a presence in far more larger markets. Their team would have been a legitimate contender in just about any conference not named the SEC the last 5 years or so.

Um. No.

 

[BioHawk]

Um. No.

Ok. Thank you for your highly interesting and well thought out post. You have contributed greatly to this thread.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Honest question -

Has anyone brought up the possibility of the Sunbelt for the B12 rejects? From what I saw last season, they'd be a great fit. Not sure how many teams they could take under their wing, but they might be feeling generous after having went 3-0 against the B12 last season, including a big road W against he mythical "regular season champs".

 

[hawkfeever]

Iowa State had better football attendance in 2019 (fan support) than all but one PAC 12 team...Washington. Its facilities are at a level with mid-range B1G teams as of today. I realize you're "trolling" but that's pretty weak sauce.

USC has the tradition and national following. Don’t tell me isu > usc. Lol.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

I’m sure every conference is trying to get the juggernauts in Ames. They have sooooo much to offer!

 

[hawkfeever]

If mountain west you at least get a Vegas trip every other year. Win for the fans and a win for all the hookers.

 

[birdman1973]

If mountain west you at least get a Vegas trip every other year. Win for the fans and a win for all the hookers.

And an added bonus you could have an opportunity to see neb coach on Fridays and wave hi !

 

[JupiterHawk]

Wendy Wintersteen & Jamie Pollard Address the Fans

cyclonefanatic.com

 

[HawkOn15]

Iowa State had better football attendance in 2019 (fan support) than all but one PAC 12 team...Washington. Its facilities are at a level with mid-range B1G teams as of today. I realize you're "trolling" but that's pretty weak sauce.

Attendance and fan support isn’t the issue for ISU. If ISU or any other team can’t bring in a media valuation of at least $60-70M in the next TV deal. I do not see the B10 expanding.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Iowa State had better football attendance in 2019 (fan support) than all but one PAC 12 team...Washington. Its facilities are at a level with mid-range B1G teams as of today. I realize you're "trolling" but that's pretty weak sauce.

Facilities are of little use to schools in other conferences, revenues and markets are. ISU is the lesser draw in a small market, and has the 7th or 8th smallest revenue in the B12. There is nothing about them that will increase revenues for schools in other P5 conferences.

 

[Frosty7130]

Iowa State had better football attendance in 2019 (fan support) than all but one PAC 12 team...Washington. Its facilities are at a level with mid-range B1G teams as of today. I realize you're "trolling" but that's pretty weak sauce.

Facilities and attendance don't determine how marketable a team is in conference realignment.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Wendy Wintersteen & Jamie Pollard Address the Fans

cyclonefanatic.com

Yikes.

It’s like a medical tv series where they give the patient 3 more days to live.

 

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Wendy Wintersteen & Jamie Pollard Address the Fans

cyclonefanatic.com

Lmfao!!! That was pathetic, desperate, & most importantly crazy awkward.

I loved it!!!

When life gives Iowa St lemons they turn it into spoiled milk. Great quote Jamie P.

 

[Nagarunja]

That was the 2nd most Iowa State thing I've ever seen, bested only by Paul Rhoads in a hardhat on the sidelines.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

Um. No.

What do you guys think/want to happen if the B12 folds? I would think the AAC would be better than anything else. Not a troll, honest question.

 

[M3 ME PLEASE]

Wendy Wintersteen & Jamie Pollard Address the Fans

cyclonefanatic.com

Lol holy shit, what the **** is wrong with these people? Hilarious that such a large portion of their fan base worship this dork.

 

[iowahawkeyes1982]

The President and AD in different colored polos is about as Iowa State as you can possibly get.

If I was a clone fan, I would be very nervous after watching that video. Yikes. I bet the folks in Austin and Norman haven’t stopped laughing. What a joke.

 

[MesaClone]

Ohio State Football: Which schools should Big Ten pursue for expansion?

The Ohio State football team may have to deal with some new members in the Big Ten soon. If so, who should the conference take a look at for expansion? It ...

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[MesaClone]

The President and AD in different colored polos is about as Iowa State as you can possibly get.

If I was a clone fan, I would be very nervous after watching that video. Yikes. I bet the folks in Austin and Norman haven’t stopped laughing. What a joke.

The video is just a legal maneuver to ensure OU and UT pay the full GOR payouts. It really says nothing beyond business as usual in the Big Twelve and thus anyone breaching the GOR must pay the full damages. Nothing more. Lawyer-ese.

 

[M3 ME PLEASE]

it’s so damn comical seeing these dorks who constantly bash the big 10 acting like cheap whores begging to let them in

 

[iowahawkeyes1982]

The video is just a legal maneuver to ensure OU and UT pay the full GOR payouts. It really says nothing beyond business as usual in the Big Twelve and thus anyone breaching the GOR must pay the full damages. Nothing more. Lawyer-ese.

Actually, it’s not a legal maneuver. It’s a PR one. A poor one at that. And one that was just as disingenuous as the statement put out by OU/UT.

Do you really think a video from Jamie Pollard has those two schools shaking in their boots? You really don’t think they’ve gamed out the possible scenarios already?

 

[MesaClone]

Actually, it’s not a legal maneuver. It’s a PR one. A poor one at that. And one that was just as disingenuous as the statement put out by OU/UT.

Do you really think a video from Jamie Pollard has those two schools shaking in their boots? You really don’t think they’ve gamed out the possible scenarios already?

It wasn’t meant to “shake them in their boots”. It was meant to maintain a legal position, which it did…and to calm people down who are worried about the program’s future.

 

[gonegolfing]

Ohio State Football: Which schools should Big Ten pursue for expansion?

The Ohio State football team may have to deal with some new members in the Big Ten soon. If so, who should the conference take a look at for expansion? It ...

scarletandgame.com

Let's hope that the fact ISU brings almost nothing to the party is enough for all educated leaders in the B1G to put this ridiculous notion to bed.

 

[MesaClone]

Let's hope that the fact ISU brings almost nothing to the party is enough for all educated leaders in the B1G to put this ridiculous notion to bed.

It’s not…because your premise is false.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Ohio State Football: Which schools should Big Ten pursue for expansion?

The Ohio State football team may have to deal with some new members in the Big Ten soon. If so, who should the conference take a look at for expansion? It ...

scarletandgame.com

Damn, too bad for you Del isn’t getting consulted on this one. When the guys first couple of selling points is a natural rivalry with Iowa, proximity, and ability to make other rivals due to proximity, you’re not making a good argument.

Del: Seriously, ISU would be great. They’re only like a few hours away from Minn, Nebraska, and Iowa City.

B1G: Ok great, can you tell me a little more about what they’ll financially bring to the conference?

Del: …. Seriously, like right in the middle of those three teams. It’s a natural fit.

 

[iowahawkeyes1982]

It wasn’t meant to “shake them in their boots”. It was meant to maintain a legal position, which it did…and to calm people down who are worried about the program’s future.

I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

In case you are, OU/UT did not need Pollard to explain the legal situation to them. Again, they’ve played out all the scenarios. Nothing Pollard said is going to change their exit plans.

Did that video calm you down? If so, what parts?

 

[DirtyJohns97]

I don’t know if ISU ends up in the BiG, my gut tells me no, but I bet they end up with something better than the AAC. And honestly they deserve it, good fans, good school.

 

[LuciousBDragon]

Wonder what T. Boone Pickens thinks of all this and if he has enough cash to buy his way into the SEC?

FTR - Slim Pickens > T. Boone Pickens

 

[DanHawkPella]

Well, only 2 of those 3 are AAU universities (ISU, Kansas), and I can see where West Virginia may want to join the ACC if one of their schools leaves (Georgia Tech)?

Colorado, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Arizona and Washington are all AAU universities as well, so a 4 division Big 10 with 5 of those schools in one division (West) might work out if the P10 is the next one to go. The draw of being in the B10 research pool might be enough to cause one of them to fall, and after that it gets easier. That's where I'd go if I was the B10.

Colorado brings Denver, Georgia Tech brings Atlanta - and the P10 brings many others. Kansas brings a crappy football program and KC, while ISU brings Ames and Story City.

 

[grayhair81]

Damn, too bad for you Del isn’t getting consulted on this one. When the guys first couple of selling points is a natural rivalry with Iowa, proximity, and ability to make other rivals due to proximity, you’re not making a good argument.

Del: Seriously, ISU would be great. They’re only like a few hours away from Minn, Nebraska, and Iowa City.

B1G: Ok great, can you tell me a little more about what they’ll financially bring to the conference?

Del: …. Seriously, like right in the middle of those three teams. It’s a natural fit.
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UNI would fit the same criteria. Actually closer and as competitive historically.

 

[HawkGem10]

It’s not…because your premise is false.

Not it isn't ISU brings ZERO to the BIG, ISU fans just to stupid to accept this!

 

[silasstarr]

The video is just a legal maneuver to ensure OU and UT pay the full GOR payouts. It really says nothing beyond business as usual in the Big Twelve and thus anyone breaching the GOR must pay the full damages. Nothing more. Lawyer-ese.

What was legal about that video? Nothing. OU and UT are legally on the hook with GOR until 2025. The video doesn’t change a thing outside of me being thankful those two aren’t leadership at UI.