Iowa a 10/11 Seed?

[hawkland14]

If Iowa loses Sunday and first round of BTT tourney are we a 10/11 seed and one of the last teams in? Our NET seems to crater every time we lose if we follow suit by losing at Illinois and first round we could be looking at a 42-47 NET. Some teams NET rating goes up after losing even to teams in the Purdue range and we go drop 6 spots. Don't understand it at all.

 

[jasonrann]

 

[Titanhawk2]

Seriously, a drop from 18th in the country to maybe a "last four in"?

 

[hawkland14]

Seriously, a drop from 18th in the country to maybe a "last four in"?

The AP Poll or Coaches Poll has no bearing whatsoever on the selection committees process and they have proven that Quad 1 wins don't really matter as well. Unfortunately they constantly and consistently fall back on NET(used to do the same with RPI). Look at last year. Iowa had a fantastic resume other than their NET and they barely get in with a 10 seed when everyone was predicting a 7 or 8. If we lose our next two I would bet a 10 seed at best and possibly an 11. Which actually wouldn't be the worst getting to avoid Kansas or Gonzaga in round 2.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

No, just no.

I know the sky is falling crowd loves this sort of nonsense but do some actual research. Go look at the current projected 10/11 seeds and their resumes then get back with us.

 

[Rifler]

Don't understand it at all.

Obviously....

 

[Cydkar]

If Iowa loses Sunday and first round of BTT tourney are we a 10/11 seed and one of the last teams in? Our NET seems to crater every time we lose if we follow suit by losing at Illinois and first round we could be looking at a 42-47 NET. Some teams NET rating goes up after losing even to teams in the Purdue range and we go drop 6 spots. Don't understand it at all.

Try not to be dumb.

 

[El Simbolo]

Loss at Illini shouldn’t affect NET too much, since it’s expected. Neutral loss to IU or lower team would for sure, though

 

[StormHawk42]

Holy sh!t people need to get a grip. The #1 bracketologist has us as the top 6 seed after last night. A non-blowout loss at Illinois won’t hurt much.

At worst we’re a 7. Probably a win away from locking up 6 though.

 

[kjcush]

Holy sh!t people need to get a grip. The #1 bracketologist has us as the top 6 seed after last night. A non-blowout loss at Illinois won’t hurt much.

At worst we’re a 7. Probably a win away from locking up 6 though.

Agreed. Even with a loss at Illinois, as long as we win our first game in the BTT we should be a borderline 6-7 seed.

 

[N8dogg99]

I feel better about winning just knowing we aren't playing Purdue.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

If Iowa loses Sunday and first round of BTT tourney are we a 10/11 seed and one of the last teams in? Our NET seems to crater every time we lose if we follow suit by losing at Illinois and first round we could be looking at a 42-47 NET. Some teams NET rating goes up after losing even to teams in the Purdue range and we go drop 6 spots. Don't understand it at all.

No.

 

[Kurt Warner]

Three losses going in I could see us dropping to 8/9 easily

 

[Hans81]

Three losses going in I could see us dropping to 8/9 easily

No

 

[denmar81]

Nothing lower than a 7 seed. Too many good wins in a tough conference.

 

[Kurt Warner]

No

Lol, I hope you're right

 

[grayhair81]

10/11 is better than 8/9 which is more likely if they lose their next two.

 

[H4wkfan4life]

10/11 is better than 8/9.

only if your end goal is the sweet sixteen and nothing more.....

 

[onionman1]

Try not to be dumb.

After the home Purdue loss, and then his scenario (lose Sunday and the 1st round of BTT) what would you project Iowa's NCAA seed to be? Just curious.

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

Most dangerous 11 seed in the country.

 

[Jizzer]

After the home Purdue loss, and then his scenario (lose Sunday and the 1st round of BTT) what would you project Iowa's NCAA seed to be? Just curious.

Right now the 10 seeds according to bracketmatrix are Providence, Indiana, Oklahoma, and USC. Go do some homework on those teams and get back to us.

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

Do we even make the NIT?????

 

[relishingwinning18]

If Iowa loses Sunday and first round of BTT tourney are we a 10/11 seed and one of the last teams in? Our NET seems to crater every time we lose if we follow suit by losing at Illinois and first round we could be looking at a 42-47 NET. Some teams NET rating goes up after losing even to teams in the Purdue range and we go drop 6 spots. Don't understand it at all.

This board is just funny to read.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Do we even make the NIT?????

Outlook unclear....

 

[myteamcanbeatupyourteam]

Do we even make the NIT?????

March Situations.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

Should we just hope for a 12 since one of those always beats a 5?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I think if we want the best possible chance of beating our first opponent, we should try to get a 1 seed.

 

[Ronman]

Three losses going in I could see us dropping to 8/9 easily

This is exactly what we don't want.

 

[mtdew_fever]

Seriously, a drop from 18th in the country to maybe a "last four in"?

Iowa was never 18th in the country per the NET rankings. The AP and/or Coaches polls arent a reliable gauge to the NCAA tourney seeding.

Iowa wont be a last 4 in even if they lose their next 2.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Iowa was never 18th in the country per the NET rankings. The AP and/or Coaches polls arent a reliable gauge to the NCAA tourney seeding.

Iowa wont be a last 4 in even if they lose their next 2.

The NCAA tournament committee does not select at-large teams strictly based on their NET ranking.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Dang, we lose a game and you would think the team has done nothing all year. JoeW sucks. We will barely make the dance. And, Fran doesn't know how to coach....

If we lose out, we could drop to a 8 or so. Currently, probably a 6.

 

[rendango]

First off, I am still praying we get a 6 seed (more so than a 4 or 5 seed) so we can hit the jackpot by playing in Albany for our first 2 games and get a huge "home court" advantage. So I am totally cool with the Purdue loss because we were creeping up in the seeding.

Remember, the NET ranking is a tool used by the committee to help them determine seeding. In some ways, it is the easiest metric to point at to get a general understanding of where teams will be seeded. But there are always other factors that play into seeding. A loaded Big Ten for example will weigh on their minds when evaluating Iowa along with several very impressive wins by Iowa over ranked opponents. Last year Iowa really didn't have many quality victories (maybe one honestly). The difference though was that they had no bad losses last year while they do this year.

Go ahead and waste your time debating this but not much has changed since last week. A 6 seed is a team that certainly has the ability to lay a stinker at home in conference play and that is exactly what Iowa did. Give me a 6 seed in Albany please!!!

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

First off, I am still praying we get a 6 seed (more so than a 4 or 5 seed) so we can hit the jackpot by playing in Albany for our first 2 games and get a huge "home court" advantage. So I am totally cool with the Purdue loss because we were creeping up in the seeding.

Remember, the NET ranking is a tool used by the committee to help them determine seeding. In some ways, it is the easiest metric to point at to get a general understanding of where teams will be seeded. But there are always other factors that play into seeding. A loaded Big Ten for example will weigh on their minds when evaluating Iowa along with several very impressive wins by Iowa over ranked opponents. Last year Iowa really didn't have many quality victories (maybe one honestly). The difference though was that they had no bad losses last year while they do this year.

Go ahead and waste your time debating this but not much has changed since last week. A 6 seed is a team that certainly has the ability to lay a stinker at home in conference play and that is exactly what Iowa did. Give me a 6 seed in Albany please!!!

No. I want to go to their first round game as well, so they can have the 6 seed near Iowa. Sorry.....

 

[Ronman]

I have seen a number of brackets that had us as a six seed and would be playing Duke in the second round in Greensboro, NC if we both made it. Seems about right. Gotta pave the way for the Blue Devils if possible.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

I have seen a number of brackets that had us as a six seed and would be playing Duke in the second round in Greensboro, NC if we both made it. Seems about right. Gotta pave the way for the Blue Devils if possible.

You do realize that Duke playing in Greensboro has nothing to do with “paving the way” right?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Btw, speaking of NET and the eye test.......Northern Iowa is a good case to look at, if anyone is worried that Iowa is gonna get dumped in the seedings.

Their NET is not exactly stellar for an at-large bid, and some would argue they still need to win the MVC if they want to make the tournament, but if you just watch them play, and look at their current record, they pass the eye test if you're looking for an NCAA tournament team.

They were a 10 seed on Lunardi's latest bracket back on Tuesday, which I think will be their ceiling, but that's definitely in the tournament as an at-large.

Iowa will not fall anywhere close to where UNI is even if we lose our next two games. They would have a road loss, and then another loss to a decent team that is most likely playing for its tournament life (currently, we're pegged to face the winner of Indiana/Northwestern).

The only thing I worry about is that this year's team loses some of that hunger they had at the beginning of the year compared to some of their counterparts, because they are safely in the tournament now and are not needing that sense of urgency as much anymore......

 

[TampaHawkfan]

LOL, Unless Iowa goes on a hot streak to close it out, they're probably in the 6-7 range IMO.

Lunardi had them as a 5 seed just the other day.