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Going way out on a limb there.
Iowa is a 3.5 point favorite over isu
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Going way out on a limb there.
Do you realize KF's teams have finished better than 8-5 six times, imcluding three seasons of ten or more wins? How many times has ISU done that? 8-5 is pretty meh unless you are used to winning four games per year. I don't base my hopes for better things on the fact Iowa finished 8-5 last year. I base it on three consecutive recruiting classes that were far above the KF norm. So, tell me, Clone fan, what are you basing your lavish dreams of Clown success on?
Research shows home field can be worth 3-7 points pending where it is; most on here would argue that Kinnick is worth more than the average CFB stadium, no? On top of that Iowa State hasn't even played a warm up game yet.
https://sites.google.com/site/sport...tistics/home-field-advantage-college-football
Here is a B10 report that shows Kinnick is worth 6.5 points.
There is nothing about being a 3.5 fav at Kinnick that says we're a better team.
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I won’t! As you said, if I don’t make a prediction, I can’t.
I gave up predicting this game long ago. Too many instances of Iowa losing while clearly having the better team. Line play on both sides will be key.
I can’t say I disagree with anything in your post. However, I wouldn’t say ISU has players returning from suspension, since they in fact did not actually serve their suspension.
Finally, an intelligent post by you. You are correct that line play will be key. Do you really believe isu’s O-line will dominate Iowa’s d-line and their d-line is better than our o-line?
like to see Hooker or Stone spy Montgomery all day , take Him away and let the pass rush overwhelm the ISU passing game/OL.
I see this coming as well. I hope Iowa anticipates and responds by mixing in some fire zones on 1st or 2nd down instead of waiting for Iowa State to have success in the short passing game first. Don't allow ISU to develop a rhythm.
I’ll just chime in here for a moment.
Don’t sleep on ISU’s defense, either. I don’t think folks understand truly how good ISU’s defense has become..this may have been the bigger story for us last season. Our D-line may be the best ever at ISU. It took 3 or 4 games last season until DC Heacock got the defense dialed in.
I wouldn’t be surprised if ISU’s defense is the biggest storyline from this Saturday’s game in Iowa City.
Honest question: how good is Iowa’s O-line this year compared to previous Hawk o-lines?
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Our biggest concern is our O-line run blocking..is it improved after being horrible last year. Montgomery was given few holes to work with last fall.
My money says with our two starting tackles back, we will be able to run enough to keep ISU honest, and get some balls to the TE's. Hopefully BF can get Easley and ISM, and god help us SOMEONE on the otherside going. Don't see this being another 44-41 type game, but are offense didn't do crap week one last season either, and look what happened IN AMES. I'll take the Hawks 28-21 in Kinnick.
Well you'll find out Saturday won't you? I can tell you one thing, our two tackles will be itching for some game action.
Considering our entire team played a grand total of 4 minutes and 5 seconds the other day, they’ll be itching for some game action as well.
No, I don’t. I believe Iowa has the better lines. My only concern would be how well our tackles handle the blitz that ISU will be throwing almost every play. Hopefully Stanley can make them pay early. That will force ISU to play “honest”, which should really open up the running game and play action pass. I would love to see plenty of 3 TE sets.
Thanks for the post. Yeah, it's telling us that the betting line is predicting it to be pretty even. People are uncertain about who will win (or what side things will fall relative to the line). This is reflective of the fact that both teams appear to be pretty good (at least, on paper) ... and that the fact that it's a rivalry game means that both team ought to be pretty juiced.
Iowa ought to own the advantage in the match-up on both lines. The big question will relate to whether Iowa can limit big plays ... and whether the Hawkeye blockers can protect Stanley. If the Iowa D can limit big plays and if the Hawkeye blockers can protect Stanley (even with blitzers coming) ... then Iowa most likely wins.
ISU's offense is 2X better? Really? And you evaluated this by ISU's no game this past weekend? Did you not see the tOSU game last year? NIU was supposed to have a good D, and Iowa ran down there throat the second half. It all depends on which Iowa offense shows up Saturday. Besides, you have to remember most of ISU's stats last season were against Big 12 defenses, which mean for the most part they were playing against no defense. Hawks show up saturday, Hawks win.
Bottom line is.....I hate ISU and I hate this game. I wish we would drop them from the schedule.
the d line is about the last thing anyone should be worried about
i think it comes down to making good passes and CATCHING those passes
if we can't move the ball by air, we might be screwed
if we can, should be an easy W
ISU completed every pass and scored on every possession in its opener.
Ghost.....I always enjoy your views and perspectives and most of the time are spot on. However, we put up 30 points in one half in the first game of the season. Without 2 starting OL tackles. I believe we do have some sort of an idea what we have offensively. Don't get me wrong this won't happen every game but our offense the 2nd half looked great. Plus, I might add that the 2 long runs in the first half were called back that could have made the game at halftime17-0. I'm hoping our O will finally help our D. Thoughts?
I’m with ya. NIU is a solid team picked to win their division. Iowa demolished them in the 2nd half and people are just brushing it off.
I like your optimism, I think Iowa ends up with the win, but remember Iowa St is usually a tough game and Iowa has a knack of playing to their opponents level. I recently rewatched the Ohio St game, I firmly believe one of the main reasons for Iowa's success was that they weren't nervous. Nobody gave them a snowballs chance so they played relaxed as they weren't expected to even make a game of it. Basically they weren't worried about making mistakes and it showed in their confidence.
The trenches will be a huge factor as always. I am not sure ISU can handle our DL. That may be the difference.
This. Iowa is flat out better in the trenches than ISU. This will cause ISU problems on Saturday. Couple that with Iowa having a game already when ISU hasn’t and I think Iowa wins this game.
I believe the line will move in Iowa’s favor throughout the week.
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bingo this game is terrible little bro wants out and hopes he never talks to big brother ever again. we need to renew series with debbie. ames vs lincoln two land grant universities and call it the midwest rustle. the medical tech law college is better served finding a more prestigious university to play in non con. we will take sisters of the poor or debbie or illinois. we dont care bout strength of schedule in ames. good luck iowa city tech and hope for NO injuries. keep it clean out there and god bless.
Vegas sets lines based on where they expect money to go. Hard to believe, I know.
Where would you like me to start? Their offense is 2x as good for starters. They have a raw offensive line with less talented personnel to work with; their weak armed quarterback offers no deep threat to our defensive backs and on defense they may be starting a true freshman at middle linebacker; and we enjoy a significant home field advantage to boot.
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