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Iowa is a 3.5 point favorite over isu

A hawk fan talking of inbreeding? Did you make this post while curling your hair and putting on a bit of makeup? You are a multitasker. You go girl!

Hey, Cletus. Do you go to HS football games and sit on the opponents' side of the field so you can talk shit to them? I strongly doubt it. If it is any consolation, I feel the same way about the purported Iowa fans that frequent the same barnyard porn sites you Clowns do.
 
The strength of NIU's D was their DL ... and Iowa's O-line ... with around 3 or 4 new starters somehow managed to maul them. Furthermore, Wirfs and Jackson made huge strides through last season. Not meaning to play the broken record ... but those guys were plain dominant against a pretty elite Ohio State defensive line.

The bigger question isn't whether Iowa's OL can handle the ISU DL ... but rather, can the Iowa OL handle the pressures that the ISU D will throw at them. I fully agree that the ISU DL is far-upgraded from where it's been in the past. However, ISU is still going to have to throw pressure at Stanley (and the running game) ... and the question is how the Iowa OL will respond and adapt to that. To be honest, I'm not certain.

However, as MesaClone fairly and honestly pointed out ... the ISU D is going to have to take chances. If Iowa can burn the ISU D for taking those chances ... then Iowa likely wins. However, if Iowa fails to burn the ISU D for such chances ... then ISU likely owns some legit advantages.

This is why the game is so interesting this year ... is it not?

I can see that line of thinking but ISU really wasn't a risk taking defense last year with a 3-3-5. I'm guessing they will bring some blitzes Saturday but the 3-3-5 really confounded B12 offenses last year. Lima being a run stopper allowed ISU the luxury of a 3 man front, I'm not sure they can do that against Iowa but they employed that against some B12 teams that run like OU, TCU & KSU. I think it will be a lot of fun to see. I think this Iowa vs ISU matchup is probably the most I have ever looked forward to one of these games.
 
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Wadley saved us last year. We don't have that threat this year. Safeties will be drawn in to stop Montgomery, hence big play opportunities for State. Hopefully home field advantage is enough. We need run game to open up the pass. Iowa State will be fresh. Go Hawks.
 
I think they are the better team. They have weapons on offense and can score a lot of points. Their offense is 2x better than Iowa’s.

While I believe Iowa’s defense is better, we really don’t know how good the secondary is....or if the LB’s can cover the pass. We’ll find out Saturday.

Plus....it won’t matter how good the defense is if they are on the field all game because the offense can’t put drives together.

33 points and 200+ yards rushing against a team that was 26th in total defense last year.

I'll sit back and watch that stellar ISU defense on Saturday (insert eye roll)
 
How did Iowa's d-backs fare in that game? Both defenses were lousy in that game.

For sure, the lack of defense on either side was the most surprising thing in last year's game, given what each defense did the rest of the year. I would anticipate both offenses having success again this year.
 
I have seen too many Iowa vs. ISU games where the outcomes didn't really compute to have a clue what's going to happen Saturday. One thing does seem to ring true though, with the exception of 2002, when Iowa loses to ISU, it generally means that Iowa will not have a great season.
 
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I have seen too many Iowa vs. ISU games where the outcomes didn't really compute to have a clue what's going to happen Saturday. One thing does seem to ring true though, with the exception of 2002, when Iowa loses to ISU, it generally means that Iowa will not have a great season.
There are more exceptions than that....although I guess it would depend upon your definition of a great season.
 
Fun stuff for Iowa-Iowa State week.

The clones are full of piss and vinegar, envisioning their first conference football title in 106 years. That was seven months or so after the Titanic hit an iceberg.
 
I have seen too many Iowa vs. ISU games where the outcomes didn't really compute to have a clue what's going to happen Saturday. One thing does seem to ring true though, with the exception of 2002, when Iowa loses to ISU, it generally means that Iowa will not have a great season.

Completely agree. This game doesn’t seem to care who has the better personnel, coaching, field advantage, etc.

Just throw all logic out the window and flip a coin. Makes as much sense as over analyzing every position group on the teams and trying to draw conclusions from it.
 
The boys over at CyFan sure are confident this time. I think some of them would take the Clones by 2 touchdowns.
 
Wadley saved us last year. We don't have that threat this year. Safeties will be drawn in to stop Montgomery, hence big play opportunities for State. Hopefully home field advantage is enough. We need run game to open up the pass. Iowa State will be fresh. Go Hawks.
hopefully our D doesn't crap the bed and we don't need wadley to save us ;)
 
My biggest concern is that IKM is likely out. We wore out the Northern Illinois defense last week by committee, with IKM taking them on while they were fresh. This week, the ISU defense is deeper and we are down one back. In addition, the Clowns are not dinged up, and we have no game film of them in action to look for weaknesses. Those are all positives for their side. 3 1/2 points at Kinnick is basically a push game with stadium advantage. My heart says the Hawks will win, my head says take the line.
 
My biggest concern is that IKM is likely out. We wore out the Northern Illinois defense last week by committee, with IKM taking them on while they were fresh. This week, the ISU defense is deeper and we are down one back. In addition, the Clowns are not dinged up, and we have no game film of them in action to look for weaknesses. Those are all positives for their side. 3 1/2 points at Kinnick is basically a push game with stadium advantage. My heart says the Hawks will win, my head says take the line.

If IKM is out or ineffective, and did I hear Marsette-Smith was dinged up? Maybe playing the 1st game has becomes a double edged sword because IKM has a different running style than Sargent and Young.

But I think Iowa playing the first game and ISU not is huge for Iowa. I think that is worth more than homefield. Look how slow Iowa was in the 1st half last week. If ISU has false starts and misses blocking assignments against the Iowa offensive line that can be worth 10 points easily.
 
There are more exceptions than that....although I guess it would depend upon your definition of a great season.

During the modern era of Iowa St being fairly competitive with Iowa ('98-present), other than 2002, please name one other season in which Iowa lost to Iowa State and then went on to have a season that wasn't a total disaster or an utter disappointment. I'll give you 2001, as that marked the time in which Iowa's program came back from the dead. Other than that, the other 8 seasons would not be considered even modestly successful by any Hawkeye fan.
 
During the modern era of Iowa St being fairly competitive with Iowa ('98-present), other than 2002, please name one other season in which Iowa lost to Iowa State and then went on to have a season that wasn't a total disaster or an utter disappointment. I'll give you 2001, as that marked the time in which Iowa's program came back from the dead. Other than that, the other 8 seasons would not be considered even modestly successful by any Hawkeye fan.
Ya, so isu is a good measuring stick? Ie They have to beat isu to have a chance at a successful season?

Isnt the series 10-10 over the last 20 years? And isnt kof average record only roughly 7-5 plus or minus?

Just not sure the point ur making?
 
Ya, so isu is a good measuring stick? Ie They have to beat isu to have a chance at a successful season?

Isnt the series 10-10 over the last 20 years? And isnt kof average record only roughly 7-5 plus or minus?

Just not sure the point ur making?

One of your Cyclone boyfriends made it sound like there was not as much of a correlation between Iowa losing to Iowa State and going on to have a lousy season as was suggested. I challenged his assessment. Nothing to do with ISU being a measuring stick, only historical stats. Just not sure why you felt the need to chime in.
 
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