Kinnick Stadium is worth 3 - 3.5 points to Iowa depending on the bookmaker. I think Vegas is saying this is a toss up if on s neutral field.
Iowa is a 3.5 point favorite over isu
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Kinnick Stadium is worth 3 - 3.5 points to Iowa depending on the bookmaker. I think Vegas is saying this is a toss up if on s neutral field.
You better hope Iowa plays up to the opponents level this week or fans will waving to the kids on their way home
Deshaunte Jones and Matt Eaton would easily start at Iowa. Don't even act like they wouldnt.
The clowns entire receiving corp would start at iowa every year
Solid compared to who?
We couldn't move the ball in the air vs them. If we can't do that when it comes time to play wiscy, we are going to get curbstomped again
Hell we could lose to the clowns next week if our passing game looks the same....
hmmm, a senior with 220 career receiving yard
that is what you have to brag about? lol
Solid compared to who?
We couldn't move the ball in the air vs them. If we can't do that when it comes time to play wiscy, we are going to get curbstomped again
Hell we could lose to the clowns next week if our passing game looks the same....
You’re right they suck. Someone call Ferentz and cancel the season
Actually yeah it is . Even with that small of a sample size I would take our #6 WR last season over any WR Iowa currently has on the roster.
Did I say that?
Nope.
I said we need to see major improvement there. ( i guess you disagree apparently)
Do KF teams usually improve? They sure do!
Pull your head out of your ass for a minute.....
too bad a few wr don't make a team.....just ask your ole pals at braska
And yet, when we played a Big 10 team last season, we scored 41. Where was the infamous Big 10 defense in that game??
I certainly wouldn't make any predictions here...but as for the trenches...ISU's DL is every bit the equal of Iowa's and many of you are grievously underestimating them. The Cyclones OL is NOT the equal of the Iowa D-line, and that's something that Matt Campbell will have to game plan around...not what any coach wants to have to do.
ISU's LB's and DB's are better than Iowa's...so make your own estimations as to how that factors into the game.
More factors. Kempt has average arm strength, but is very accurate and gets rid of the ball fairly quickly...can't run to save his life. Plays very smart as well, a bit of a "coach on the field type". Also, Montgomery IS one of the top 5 RB's in the nation...just wish he had a better OL to run behind...but beware, the kid has excellent hands and ISU will do its best to get him the ball on the perimeter where he's one on one with an LB or Safety.
Also, keep your eyes out for Nwangwu when he comes in at RB...the kid is blistering fast and more than capable of taking a long one to the house. He must be accounted for by any defense.
As for Butler, he has more talent than Lazard...much faster in terms of straight line speed.
Finally, this game comes down to strength vs strength...if the Iowa OL establishes a power running game, its all over. Iowa can then play into its play action and will kill ISU with its very talented Tight Ends. On the other hand, if ISU can stifle that Iowa power rush attack...this is anyone's game to win.
Finally, turnovers are huge in this game...if either team starts handing over the ball, it gets ugly for that team fast.
Home court counts for a lot here, so if I had to put money down I'd pick Iowa...but make no mistake...ISU is more than capable to taking this win. We are the 3rd or 4th best team Iowa will face all season.
ISU's LB's and DB's are better than Iowa's...so make your own estimations as to how that factors into the game.
More factors. Kempt has average arm strength, but is very accurate and gets rid of the ball fairly quickly...can't run to save his life. Plays very smart as well, a bit of a "coach on the field type". Also, Montgomery IS one of the top 5 RB's in the nation...just wish he had a better OL to run behind...but beware, the kid has excellent hands and ISU will do its best to get him the ball on the perimeter where he's one on one with an LB or Safety.
Also, keep your eyes out for Nwangwu when he comes in at RB...the kid is blistering fast and more than capable of taking a long one to the house. He must be accounted for by any defense.
As for Butler, he has more talent than Lazard...much faster in terms of straight line speed.
Finally, this game comes down to strength vs strength...if the Iowa OL establishes a power running game, its all over. Iowa can then play into its play action and will kill ISU with its very talented Tight Ends. On the other hand, if ISU can stifle that Iowa power rush attack...this is anyone's game to win.
Finally, turnovers are huge in this game...if either team starts handing over the ball, it gets ugly for that team fast.
Home court counts for a lot here, so if I had to put money down I'd pick Iowa...but make no mistake...ISU is more than capable to taking this win. We are the 3rd or 4th best team Iowa will face all season.
Kinnick has been a 6 point home field advantage, as opposed to the typical 3 point.
Appears Vegas sees ISU as a 2.5 point favorite.
I see our offense in much better shape with both starting OT back in the lineup.
Appears Vegas sees ISU as a 2.5 point favorite.
I see our offense in much better shape with both starting OT back in the lineup.
How many of your DL are already slated for the NFL?
We know little about our LBs, so maybe you could tell us more about them.
As for DBs, MAYBE during week 2 as we're pretty young(assuming you're playing a bunch of seniors) we'll see.
Montgomery IS NOT one of the 5 best backs in football.
I DOUBT you're better than NW MD or possibly even UN PU, so definitely not the 3rd best team we'll face. I could agree you're probably better than MN and IL(probably IN).
Harvey and Spears were both Honorable Mention All Big 12...Harvey will be a senior this year and Spears is back for his junior year. Spears in particular played fantastic as the season wore on...a couple of game turning picks, one for a TD being the highlights. MLB is the concern...to everyone's shock, a true frosh (Michael Rose) has beaten out the expected heir apparent (O'Rien Vance).
Campbell raves about Rose, but we still haven't actually seen him in action (except for 5 plays against SDSU) but as a frosh he's sure to make a few mistakes. Kid is evidently a major talent...Campbell said
“The one thing that stood out with Mike … I’ve never seen anybody live play that hard every single play. It has carried over to here too,” Veidt said. “That was the one thing you knew gave the guy a chance, that he was going to play hard every single play. He’s even bigger and stronger than he was back a year ago, so he had a really good summer here and is developing physically.”
The 6-foot-3 Rose was around 205 pounds then and is inching toward 230 now.
It IS concerning having a true freshman in the middle, but that concern is eased by having two very experienced LB's playing on either side of him.
USA Today has him at number 3...https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ootball-10-best-running-backs-2018/756382002/
Lima and Uwazurike are the two most likely to play in the NFL...though Jaquan Bailey may have a chance as well and is a pre-season 1st team Big 12 defensive end. When we go 3-3-5, which was VERY effective last season once put in place, those are the 3 starters. Depth is very good as well with Tongamoa, Jamahl Johson, Matt Leo and Carson Lensing sure to get solid playing time as well.
As for our corners, Peavy is a 1st all conference pick and Payne on the other side was Honorable Mention.
I'm not saying ISU is the Steelers...just that we have a very respectable defense.
Admittedly know little about the backups at ISU, but Iowa goes a legit eight deep. I know you have Lima et al as starters, but how’s the depth?
You answered my question from previous post here. I see you’ve conveniently glossed over the safety position.
Thanks for all the info! Without the clones playing already I really dont know what to expect from them this coming Saturday.
Also, the 3 3 5 wont do you much good against the Hawks with the amount and quality of TEs we can run into the game.
Two new starters at safety, though the Juco Eisworth is very highly thought of...but an unknown is an unknown. The other starter is new as well, so Safety is definitely the biggest concern on the defense.
LOL ... and so it begins! (*shakes head*)
Last year Iowa had all new regular starters at BOTH safety and corner. Thus, after Iowa jumped ahead to a 21-10 lead ... ISU was able to exploit the long-pass to swing the momentum of the game in their favor. This, of course, wasn't entirely shocking seeing that last years game was at Jack Trice.
Now, Iowa's corners have a little more experience than the corners had last year. More importantly for Iowa, the safeties are very experienced and are pretty good leaders too.
Given the status of Iowa's DBs ... it is entirely possible the suppose that the Hawks may be able to prevent too many chunk yardage plays in the passing game. This scenario is made further believable by the fact that Iowa's DL ought to make it harder for longer developing pass-plays to work out (b/c of pressure on the QB).
If the above scenario plays out ... then the game is likely slated to be more of a "grind 'em out" sort of game. Such games are typically won in the trenches ... AND, if that proves to be the case ... then that potentially gives Iowa a significant advantage.
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The 3-3-5 sounds like its pass centric...but in truth its 3 lineman, 3 LB's up tight, and at least one of the 5 DB's attacking the LOS hard. Its designed to keep everything in front of the defense...give up the short pass and push up field to get TFL's. Its not really a 3 Linemen and 3 LB set up with 5 DBs in coverage...you could almost argue that its a better run defense than pass defense. What it gives up are short passes and on occasion is vulnerable to TE's down the middle of the field off play action (as the safeties tend to come up hard against the run).
Like you, I've no idea what to expect given last Saturday's game cancellation...what effect, if any, that has is hard to fathom.
Not a bad analysis, and it may play out that way. On the other hand, if ISU can get Montgomery some decent yardage in the run game, the whole dynamic of the ball game shifts in our favor. Should be a good game and will tell both teams a lot about what they have heading into a long season.My personal view is that these are two good...not great...football teams. Contrasting styles to an extent, but both solid at executing their game plans. Both have good D's and that gives both teams a chance to win ANY game they are in.
I doubt they'll play 3-3-5 against Iowa much of the time. That was adapted for the Big XII teams, completely different offensive philosophies.
Also, its very possible ISU walks on the field in a 4-3...they worked both (4-3 and 3-3) at different times during the season, and given the quality depth on the DL its not hard to effectively run a 4-3 against power teams like Iowa.
There's no way that Iowa will be underestimating the ISU team - DL or any other part of your squad. In fact, there were plays last year when JaQuan Bailey outright embarrassed Iowa's Alaric Jackson. What's the implication here? Last year Jackson was just a RS FR and a first year starter. Subsequently, he's acquired a lot more experience ... and he'll be doing the film work necessary to try to neutralize Bailey. I agree that Bailey is a very talented player ... but so is Jackson!
Uwazurike is the guy who gives me a little bit more concern ... he has a great combo of size and athleticism at the other edge. Ordinarily I'd be more concerned ... but it will still mark Uwazurike's first start AND he'll be going against Wirfs. Wirfs himself has impressive size ... and he moves remarkably well for his size.
Without question, Lima is the crown jewel of ISU's interior DL. However, do you care to tell me about all the dominant DT play that has come from everybody not named Ray Lima on the ISU roster? The majority of Iowa's experience on the OL is on the interior ... and while Lima will give them one heck of a challenge ... NIU had a big and talented DT who the Iowa interior OL wore out too.
On top of all the above considerations ... the Iowa OL already had to prepare for a very talented NIU defensive line. That preparation gave them a lot to look at going into the second game ... and plenty of opportunity to improve upon. My biggest concern for the Iowa OL is that "rust" that the two offensive tackles will have to "knock off" ... however, if I were an ISU fan, I wouldn't be quick to underestimate Iowa's OL either.
If anything, much like some of the ISU fans ... the ISU D may be apt to underestimate Iowa's passing game. Of course, Iowa admittedly didn't look good in the passing game ... but nor were they showing a lot either. Given the mediocre level of execution ... the Hawkeye O will benefit from a games worth of tape to improve upon their passing game.
See, this is where you are off base. Iowa`s OL will not get the best of ISU`s DL this year and ISU`s OL will be improved. The DL`s for both teams are better that the opposing OL, so the differences in other position groups will decide this game. ISU is stronger at every other position group and will not have a QB that throws an INT at the ISU 10 yd line.
I agree. Stanley will need to have a monster game for the hawks to win, and I don`t think he will have the time.
For my part, I'd never underestimate Iowa's OL. That is the foundation of the Ferentz era and this year's group is in that mold. Most years, they have dominated our defensive line...a clear mismatch. This year, our DL is MUCH better...heck...it got much better as the season progressed (against some very good offenses). Having a very good DL to go up against your very good OL is a much better matchup for ISU than the usual matchup. BTW, don't sleep on Jamahl Johnson, he gets better every time he steps on the field...solid Nose tackle, letting Lima move over to Tackle.
Against Iowa, you have to risk something in order to stop the power running game...and you MUST stop the power game. Iowa may have success in the throwing game, as Stanley is very good and your WR's are solid if unspectacular. ISU has little choice but to put the corners on an island and lock the safeties on Iowa's TE's...and hope for the best. But the focus first and always must be slow that power run attack.
Fair comment ... however, I would comment that Iowa's O benefitted A LOT from short fields provided to them by the D.
What Iowa fans ultimately want (and need) to see is an offense that can drive the field. The Hawks have yet to sustain a 75 yard drive yet ... and that is critical for an offensive if they want to be able to exert their will on the other team.
For the Hawks to truly "prove themselves" on O ... they need to sustain drives. In order to sustain drives, they need to be able to demonstrate the "balance" that Ferentz always preaches about. Right now, the Hawks have a TE passing game ... and possibly a running game at its disposal. Of course, before we get ahead of ourselves ... we have to remember that the "weakness" of the NIU defense was LB-unit. Thus, I won't yet anoint Iowa's running game as being "there" yet.
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