Pretty good post!I have to admit I don't care what you guys are arguing about; but because you are arguing, it means Basketball is just around the corner. Yes.
Pretty good post!I have to admit I don't care what you guys are arguing about; but because you are arguing, it means Basketball is just around the corner. Yes.
The persons involved in Barnstormers and Martin Bros and all other dedicated people coaching up Iowa guys...including Iowa High School Coaches want the best opportunity for their players. It ends there.^^^^^ Actually Bryce does a good job of making sense here. He, like ISU, doesn't care where their payers come from. Please take note persons involved in Barnstormers and Martin Bros and all other dedicated people coaching up Iowa guys...including Iowa High School Coaches. Don't bother calling Prohm up when you have a good young player...not interested until everyone KNOWS the kid is a stud.
I'm proud to have had McCabe, May and any player we've enjoyed watching in the black and gold.
The persons involved in Barnstormers and Martin Bros and all other dedicated people coaching up Iowa guys...including Iowa High School Coaches want the best opportunity for their players. It ends there.
Don't throw tits or tires out of the possibilities.If this guy doesn't make it, it will be because of injury/disease or not caring about bb anymore.
I believe he was the prior coach of Pete's AAU team. I remember the story as Moore was at an AAU game just watching and possibly talking to his former AAU players which is not allowed if you are a college coach. The article said Fred could be at the game because his son was playing and that was the only reason he was allowed there.Moore was a coach on Pete's AAU team.
Yes, I think he stopped the AAU part when he got the job with ISU. I was just pointing out that was the connection between Lefty and Pete. I believe after the AAU tournament incident they also discovered Moore and Pete had texted back and forth several times, which also wasn't allowed.I believe he was the prior coach of Pete's AAU team. I remember the story as Moore was at an AAU game just watching and possibly talking to his former AAU players which is not allowed if you are a college coach. The article said Fred could be at the game because his son was playing and that was the only reason he was allowed there.
A man after my own heart. I can't grasp feeling any other way and I admit that.Since the argument started about where the players are coming from, I'll just go on the record as saying this. I want the Hawks to have the best players possible, who are good people/students and have a skill set that best fits what Fran wants to fit his system. And I don't give a hoot about where they are from. If he has 13 Iowa guys and they can win, Frantastic. If he has 13 guys from everywhere but Iowa and they can win, Frantastic. If it's some combination of those, Frantastic.
Whether or not his team is full of Iowa guys makes no nevermind. They are Hawks, where they grew up is immaterial to me. I'll root for guys like Moss, Dailey, Cook just as much as guys like Pemsl, Kreiner and Bohannon. To me they are all the same once they hit campus.
Since the argument started about where the players are coming from, I'll just go on the record as saying this. I want the Hawks to have the best players possible, who are good people/students and have a skill set that best fits what Fran wants to fit his system. And I don't give a hoot about where they are from. If he has 13 Iowa guys and they can win, Frantastic. If he has 13 guys from everywhere but Iowa and they can win, Frantastic. If it's some combination of those, Frantastic.
Whether or not his team is full of Iowa guys makes no nevermind. They are Hawks, where they grew up is immaterial to me. I'll root for guys like Moss, Dailey, Cook just as much as guys like Pemsl, Kreiner and Bohannon. To me they are all the same once they hit campus.
Agree, with most of your comment except for the all non-Iowa team.Since the argument started about where the players are coming from, I'll just go on the record as saying this. I want the Hawks to have the best players possible, who are good people/students and have a skill set that best fits what Fran wants to fit his system. And I don't give a hoot about where they are from. If he has 13 Iowa guys and they can win, Frantastic. If he has 13 guys from everywhere but Iowa and they can win, Frantastic. If it's some combination of those, Frantastic.
Whether or not his team is full of Iowa guys makes no nevermind. They are Hawks, where they grew up is immaterial to me. I'll root for guys like Moss, Dailey, Cook just as much as guys like Pemsl, Kreiner and Bohannon. To me they are all the same once they hit campus.
^^^^^ Actually Bryce does a good job of making sense here. He, like ISU, doesn't care where their payers come from. Please take note persons involved in Barnstormers and Martin Bros and all other dedicated people coaching up Iowa guys...including Iowa High School Coaches. Don't bother calling Prohm up when you have a good young player...not interested until everyone KNOWS the kid is a stud.
I'm proud to have had McCabe, May and any player we've enjoyed watching in the black and gold.
lol Grade A Beef?Abso-freagin'-lutely! Which is why when the U of I puts the time in to coach up Iowa players (read history of Matt Bowen and comments made by Dr. Tom at the time of his recruitment) and Iowa State just expects "Grade A Beef"...it's no wonder so many Iowa kids choose Iowa! It really does end there.
If there are two players, say PG, that are relatively equal in everything, but one is from Iowa and grew up an Iowa fan and the other is from NYC and is trying to decide between Iowa, UNC, Duke, Cuse, etc...yeah, I'll lean towards the Iowa kid.
If there are two players who both want to commit, one is from Iowa and one is from NYC, but the one from NYC is vastly superior, I'm taking the one from NYC.
I'd love to have Iowa kids throughout the roster. But if the choice is between Iowa kids or better players from out of state, I'm taking the out of state kids. I want Fran to get the best players he can...I don't care where they come from. And once they get to IA City, I'm rooting for all of them equally, whether they are from my hometown, Storm Lake, Chicago, Germany or anywhere else. Once they have that Hawkeye jersey on, they're Hawks.
I don't care where they come from as well....what I do care is that Iowa (as has UNI) have shown interest in recruiting & signing.. everywhere including in state...another in state school has not. I'll take our chances in landing in state D1 talent which might include the next Marcus Paige type level... Maybe that's Joe Wieskamp. Maybe that's Xavier Foster.
The choice does not have to be Iowa kids of less talent. The choice should be the best talent available (which includes Iowa kids). Like you I root for all of recruits regardless of where they come from...I just don't want to exclude Iowa high schools.
I think Foster will be a different story as far as whether Iowa is clearly going to get him. If KU, Duke, etc start getting involved then all bets are off.
Agreed completely. Like I said initially, the best players who fit. If they're from Iowa, great. If they aren't, great.
I don't care where they come from as well....what I do care is that Iowa (as has UNI) have shown interest in recruiting & signing.. everywhere including in state...another in state school has not. I'll take our chances in landing in state D1 talent which might include the next Marcus Paige type level... Maybe that's Joe Wieskamp. Maybe that's Xavier Foster.
The choice does not have to be Iowa kids of less talent. The choice should be the best talent available (which includes Iowa kids). Like you I root for all of recruits regardless of where they come from...I just don't want to exclude Iowa high schools.
Iowa State has shown interest in recruiting and signing Iowa kids, they just haven't been able to.
Yep, and ISU had a desperation offer to Ernst and then asked him to move on after a year. Pomlee was kicked off the team for violating team rules. Definitely need less recruits like that.
couldn't agree more...pretty poor choices for the only two. Ernst does have 'some' talent but not the motor necessary to go along with it.
Pomlee was so long ago I don't even remember the circumstances.
McDermott also had some really good recruits that he did nothing with.Pomlee was considered a good recruit early on in high school if I recall correctly but then he just really dropped off. Of course McDermott had some really bad recruits at ISU
Hopefully one of the coaches pulled him aside afterwards and let him know that Iowa football's slow, conservative offense is the exact opposite of the basketball team'sI think Foster was at the Wisconsin game
Pomlee was considered a good recruit early on in high school if I recall correctly but then he just really dropped off. Of course McDermott had some really bad recruits at ISU
McDermott put more guys in the NBA than Fran has.
The guy who was run out of Iowa State University?McDermott put more guys in the NBA than Fran has.
Why do you come over to a Hawkeye website and post this drivel? You should be banned for bringing your stupidity over here.
What about all those McD's All Americans from Iowa that Alford missed out on during his time at Iowa. Whose fault is that?
He might put us in his final list just to be nice to his home state. Then he chooses Kentucky or Duke of course.
Looks like Foster had 6 pts, 8 boards, and 3 blks the first game this season. Keep in mind that he is a Freshman.
http://criwmpennu.org/osp/3773-ohs-basketball-splits-doubleheader-at-fairfield.html
This. And it's hard to blame them for wanting to play for the best program they can.I think Foster will be a different story as far as whether Iowa is clearly going to get him. If KU, Duke, etc start getting involved then all bets are off.
The Korver boys all played for Pella Christian, IIRC, and Chris Street played at Indianola, so the competition is more than adequate. I wonder what stats Kyle and Klayton put up as freshmen, just for comparison purposes?
Seems to me the stats are a little light, but they are probably bringing him along slowly.
The Korvers went to Pella, not PC.
That said, PC has a really good team, they beat Pella on Friday night. As I said, PC will be one of the 3-4 best teams Osky plays this year, along with Grinnell, Pella and DCG.