ADVERTISEMENT

Iowa State...

Wow. Five out of six, you say? Who would of 'thunk' that?

Earlier you stated that evidence exists to show the big 8/big xii dominance of the Big Ten. Still waiting on that data.

Oh, anyone that read HR for the period prior to Nebraska joining the Big Ten can recall Big Dead fans telling us how easy it would be for UN to win the Big Ten. The mere speed and skill of Nebraska would put the slow, methodical, plodding and predictable Big Ten to shame. Are you denying that was the case?

Let me know when you have those FACTS handy.... can't wait to read all about how the big 8/big xii has such superiority over the Big Ten.

Yes, I say 5 out of 6 since 1999, pretty concise statement of fact. You can find the data for yourself at mcubed.net. As I stated in my post, the big12 has a better record against the big10 the data by decade:

2010's - 14 W 8 L
2000's - 26 W 18L

By your reply you have designated yourself one of the bitter hawk fans of which I have come to know well. Enjoy this year and pray CJB doesn't slip on a banana peel and sprang a knee.
 
Wow. Five out of six, you say? Who would of 'thunk' that?

Earlier you stated that evidence exists to show the big 8/big xii dominance of the Big Ten. Still waiting on that data.

Oh, anyone that read HR for the period prior to Nebraska joining the Big Ten can recall Big Dead fans telling us how easy it would be for UN to win the Big Ten. The mere speed and skill of Nebraska would put the slow, methodical, plodding and predictable Big Ten to shame. Are you denying that was the case?

Let me know when you have those FACTS handy.... can't wait to read all about how the big 8/big xii has such superiority over the Big Ten.

The Big 12 is 40-26 against the Big 10 since 2000. Big 10 is better this year IMO.
Nebraska's record in the the Big 12 in the Pelini years was the same as his record in the Big 10 so that doesn't clear it up one way or another. I remember Nebraska's B1G conference schedule for the first 2 years included all 8 bowl reams from the previous year and none of the non-qualifiers. Frankly I was suprised they were able to even win 5-7 conference games those years.
 
I work with people who are hawk fans and some who are Neb fans and have never heard any Neb fan say they would easily win big10 titles when they joined the league. All I have heard from both hawks and neb fans is they wanted to contend to rep the west in the big10 title game. I am pretty sure that the first goal of every team is to win their conference. You hear what you want to hear and I am sure there are Neb fans out there that may have said what you claim. As said before, enjoy the hawks 6-0 start and spout off however you want about this season to whomever you choose, but stop at that as you have no other data or stats to support any of your other claims. A quick study of the hawks v. Neb history tells us plenty:

Hawks all time winning percent against Neb - 0.322 (real close to hawks all time winning percent against clones)
Neb has won 5 out of 6 since 1999 against the hawks
Neb has won 3 out of 4 since joining the bigten (hawks only win in 2013 was against Neb third string QB)
Iowa is 41-22 against the clones you dipshit, good try though....also Nebby fans ok with competing for big ten west title is laughable at best, they just fired a 9 win coach consistently, ISU would give lifetime contact for a 9 win season....would be what their 3rd time ever!!!
Furthermore how is ISU's record against Michigan, OSu, Penn State or any other big ten team? Or heck do they have a winning record against any P5 conference team....it's obvious you are dumb in the first place to be a fan of that dumpster fire of a school in that shithole city of Ames, but you to actually think you think you have any argument what so ever against the FACt that ISU is dumpster fire or even think you have a claim that ISU is better than Iowa makes you look even worse...thanks for stopping by though....if you want to keep arguing I'll throw some fun facts your way
 
The Big 12 is 40-26 against the Big 10 since 2000. Big 10 is better this year IMO.
Nebraska's record in the the Big 12 in the Pelini years was the same as his record in the Big 10 so that doesn't clear it up one way or another. I remember Nebraska's B1G conference schedule for the first 2 years included all 8 bowl reams from the previous year and none of the non-qualifiers. Frankly I was suprised they were able to even win 5-7 conference games those years.
Yeah who played whom really makes a difference too...not a ton of OSU, Mich, PSu on the big twelve side....mostly NW, Minnisota, Illinois, Indiana.....overall big ten is 233-174 against big ten which is a much larger and accurate sample size
 
Iowa is 41-22 against the clones you dipshit, good try though....also Nebby fans ok with competing for big ten west title is laughable at best, they just fired a 9 win coach consistently, ISU would give lifetime contact for a 9 win season....would be what their 3rd time ever!!!
Furthermore how is ISU's record against Michigan, OSu, Penn State or any other big ten team? Or heck do they have a winning record against any P5 conference team....it's obvious you are dumb in the first place to be a fan of that dumpster fire of a school in that shithole city of Ames, but you to actually think you think you have any argument what so ever against the FACt that ISU is dumpster fire or even think you have a claim that ISU is better than Iowa makes you look even worse...thanks for stopping by though....if you want to keep arguing I'll throw some fun facts your way
You obviously have some reading comprehension issues to go along with your bitterness and anger. Go back and read carefully and slowly if needed. I clearly stated that the hawks winning percent over the clones is similar to the Neb winning percent over the hawks. To make it easy for you, that is you take 22 (number of clone wins) divided by 63 (total number of games) and you get a clone winning percent of .349 which is similar to the hawks winning percent of .322 over the Neb, the math for Neb v. hawks series is a little more complicated due to three ties involved so i'm not even going to get into that math. Interpretation, Clones only win 35% of the time against the hawks and the hawks have only won 32% of the time against Neb. I am pointing out the irony of hawk fan talking down to clone fan and then getting all bent out of shape when Neb fan does the same to hawk fan. I hope all the reading and math doesn't give you a headache and some friendly advice, lay off the weed. The reason no one is coming to your defense is that you could not be more wrong in you interpretation of my post. Enjoy the rest of the hawks season, as it is turning into a good possibly great one, but please let this end here to keep from embarrassing yourself further.
 
I'll chime in as someone who had 3 good friends that graduated from Nebraska, as well as family in Omaha (Hawk fans who have to hear about the Huskers 24/7 from friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc).

To say they didn't come into the B1G cocky, thinking they'd compete for the title EVERY year, is comical. I distinctly remember words coming from my friends like "going to be easy" and "Nebraska will show these boys how football is played" and "if we don't win the B1G by year 2 I'll be shocked."

Sure, a lot of Husker fans are more realistic about their current place in the college football landscape, but I guarantee you the vast majority thought they'd have 3-4 B1G titles by now.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ddelzell
I'll chime in as someone who had 3 good friends that graduated from Nebraska, as well as family in Omaha (Hawk fans who have to hear about the Huskers 24/7 from friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc).

To say they didn't come into the B1G cocky, thinking they'd compete for the title EVERY year, is comical. I distinctly remember words coming from my friends like "going to be easy" and "Nebraska will show these boys how football is played" and "if we don't win the B1G by year 2 I'll be shocked."

Sure, a lot of Husker fans are more realistic about their current place in the college football landscape, but I guarantee you the vast majority thought they'd have 3-4 B1G titles by now.
Hoping they'd compete every year is more accurate and I would hope hawk fan would hope to compete for the West every year as well. Maybe you need new friends. I also know hawk fans in Omaha and it is amazing that the hawk gear, bumper stickers and flags seem to explode when the team starts good, no different then any other fan base. Statement in bold is patently false, but your bias is noted. No one fan base has more crazies then the next, except maybe the seC. How is crazy Neb fan saying what you claim about the big10 any different then hawk fan claiming the hawks would dominate big12?
 
Last edited:
You obviously have some reading comprehension issues to go along with your bitterness and anger. Go back and read carefully and slowly if needed. I clearly stated that the hawks winning percent over the clones is similar to the Neb winning percent over the hawks. To make it easy for you, that is you take 22 (number of clone wins) divided by 63 (total number of games) and you get a clone winning percent of .349 which is similar to the hawks winning percent of .322 over the Neb, the math for Neb v. hawks series is a little more complicated due to three ties involved so i'm not even going to get into that math. Interpretation, Clones only win 35% of the time against the hawks and the hawks have only won 32% of the time against Neb. I am pointing out the irony of hawk fan talking down to clone fan and then getting all bent out of shape when Neb fan does the same to hawk fan. I hope all the reading and math doesn't give you a headache and some friendly advice, lay off the weed. The reason no one is coming to your defense is that you could not be more wrong in you interpretation of my post. Enjoy the rest of the hawks season, as it is turning into a good possibly great one, but please let this end here to keep from embarrassing yourself further.
When the skirts are 2-4 fall back to the history card. Rinse and repeat.
 
Some Iowa fans don't want to discuss SOS because Iowa's is so pathetic. For instance, look at the top 25 this week. There is one team on there, ONE TEAM, that Iowa has played or will play. There are 6 that Iowa State has played or will play. Enjoy your cake walk but don't think this team is actually better than it really is. It has taken heroic efforts in at least 3 games to pull out wins against very average teams. This is not one of Iowa's best teams by a long shot.
 
Some Iowa fans don't want to discuss SOS because Iowa's is so pathetic. For instance, look at the top 25 this week. There is one team on there, ONE TEAM, that Iowa has played or will play. There are 6 that Iowa State has played or will play. Enjoy your cake walk but don't think this team is actually better than it really is. It has taken heroic efforts in at least 3 games to pull out wins against very average teams. This is not one of Iowa's best teams by a long shot.

isu would be 2-4 with Iowa's schedule at best and probably 1-5.

When you suck like isu it doesn't really matter who you play you will lose. To bad isu can't just play FCS schools and Kansas. Then maybe isu should go back to the MVC and get KU as a non-con game. What would the excuse be for losing games in that scenario, too many injuries?
 
You clearly don't understand the point, but good try.

I understand it completely. When the skirts are 2-4 their fans go to the history card. What is even more entertaining is that they truly believe the glory days will return.
 
Some Iowa fans don't want to discuss SOS because Iowa's is so pathetic. For instance, look at the top 25 this week. There is one team on there, ONE TEAM, that Iowa has played or will play. There are 6 that Iowa State has played or will play. Enjoy your cake walk but don't think this team is actually better than it really is. It has taken heroic efforts in at least 3 games to pull out wins against very average teams. This is not one of Iowa's best teams by a long shot.

I really couldn't care less about our strength of schedule. I know Iowa isn't a world beater team, but 6 and 0 is 6 and 0. Winning in 2 hostile environments, even though 1 was against 1 of the worst P5 teams today, and against a good Pitt team, is satisfying to me. And Illinois isn't the worst team around.

Coming into this season I thought 8 wins was the ceiling based on what I thought we had talent-wise and the schedule we faced. I'm pleasantly surprised by the talent and cohesiveness of this team ... a sign that Kirk Ferentz and his staff know how to develop players (though looking up and down NFL rosters, we already knew that).
 
Some Iowa fans don't want to discuss SOS because Iowa's is so pathetic. For instance, look at the top 25 this week. There is one team on there, ONE TEAM, that Iowa has played or will play. There are 6 that Iowa State has played or will play. Enjoy your cake walk but don't think this team is actually better than it really is. It has taken heroic efforts in at least 3 games to pull out wins against very average teams. This is not one of Iowa's best teams by a long shot.

isu fans are the Kings of SOS. How pathetic must their life be when that is all they can chirp about during football season?
 
I really couldn't care less about our strength of schedule. I know Iowa isn't a world beater team, but 6 and 0 is 6 and 0. Winning in 2 hostile environments, even though 1 was against 1 of the worst P5 teams today, and against a good Pitt team, is satisfying to me. And Illinois isn't the worst team around.

Coming into this season I thought 8 wins was the ceiling based on what I thought we had talent-wise and the schedule we faced. I'm pleasantly surprised by the talent and cohesiveness of this team ... a sign that Kirk Ferentz and his staff know how to develop players (though looking up and down NFL rosters, we already knew that).


ISU would have gotten smoked by Illinois. They are a rapidly improving team and defensively very sound. They would have beaten ISU by 2 touchdowns and maybe worse. Many Iowa fans recognize our margin for error is small and we do have a favorable schedule, however, call me old school but my motto is beat who is in front of you. Period.
Are we as good as our record? Not really sure yet. This weekend will be very telling. I believe it will be our stiffest test this season. If we come out with a w in Evanston we may be looking at a one loss season. But for ISU to argue schedule is laughable. They would have one win, perhaps two with the schedule we have. Bottom line: the ISU program is a joke and everyone knows it!!
 
I understand it completely. When the skirts are 2-4 their fans go to the history card. What is even more entertaining is that they truly believe the glory days will return.
Wrong as usual. The Hawks are clearly having a good season this year, solid D and playing smart on O. Coaches clearly know what they have and how best to use it. It seems to me that the opposite is true of Neb. My previous post were simply pointing out hawk fan hypocrisy that riddles this board.
 
Wrong as usual. The Hawks are clearly having a good season this year, solid D and playing smart on O. Coaches clearly know what they have and how best to use it. It seems to me that the opposite is true of Neb. My previous post were simply pointing out hawk fan hypocrisy that riddles this board.

and I am simply pointing out the general posting methodology of husker fans.
 
When you beat teams, they fall in the rankings. Both WI & Pitt are probably ranked this week if they beat Iowa, Toledo is not if ISU doesn't crap the bed.
 
I really couldn't care less about our strength of schedule. I know Iowa isn't a world beater team, but 6 and 0 is 6 and 0. Winning in 2 hostile environments, even though 1 was against 1 of the worst P5 teams today, and against a good Pitt team, is satisfying to me. And Illinois isn't the worst team around.

Coming into this season I thought 8 wins was the ceiling based on what I thought we had talent-wise and the schedule we faced. I'm pleasantly surprised by the talent and cohesiveness of this team ... a sign that Kirk Ferentz and his staff know how to develop players (though looking up and down NFL rosters, we already knew that).
This is a reasonable, intelligent post.
 
Show us where Hawk fans have said this.
Check posts in this thread, posts in the Baylor thread, they are there. I'm sure you are a level headed fan as am I. If needed we can just agree to disagree. Enjoy the day, it's a great day to golf. Good luck against NW.
 
Yeah who played whom really makes a difference too...not a ton of OSU, Mich, PSu on the big twelve side....mostly NW, Minnisota, Illinois, Indiana.....overall big ten is 233-174 against big ten which is a much larger and accurate sample size

Probably 1/3 of the games involve Iowa including the Iowa State series, games with KSU and Nebraska in early 2000s and bowl games.

Ohio State split a home-and home with Texas, lost to Texas in a Fiesta Bowl. They beat KSU and Okie State in other bowls.

Michigan lost to Texas in Rose Bowl and to Nebraska and KSU in other bowls.

Penn State splits home-and-home with Nebraska.

Illinois and Mizzou played yearly until the SEC move.

Those are just games I remember quickly, I think non-bowl teams have probably played cross-conference games the least.
 
Some Iowa fans don't want to discuss SOS because Iowa's is so pathetic. For instance, look at the top 25 this week. There is one team on there, ONE TEAM, that Iowa has played or will play. There are 6 that Iowa State has played or will play. Enjoy your cake walk but don't think this team is actually better than it really is. It has taken heroic efforts in at least 3 games to pull out wins against very average teams. This is not one of Iowa's best teams by a long shot.
One reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good, is because they don't get to play ISU.
 
The reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good is because they play at least 6 ranked teams. The reason Iowa's strength of schedule is one of the worst in the country is because they don't. It's that simple.
 
Wrong as usual. The Hawks are clearly having a good season this year, solid D and playing smart on O. Coaches clearly know what they have and how best to use it. It seems to me that the opposite is true of Neb. My previous post were simply pointing out hawk fan hypocrisy that riddles this board.

Oh because I forgot the Nebraska boards are full of rational fans who never make hypocritical comments. With mods who never ban any person or opposing fans who make critical comments of the Huskers. Gotcha. Seriously get off your high horse.

If this is the case why the F are you, a husker fan, trying to prove here? I'll never understand opposing fan who goes to another teams board who actually thinks he will change other fan bases opinion or think he will get a good response, or better yet shocked when he receives a negative response when they rip on that school bragging about their own.
 
strength of schedule only matters at the end of the year. Once you've seen everyones body of work. Right now it doesn't matter. The SEC has figured out how to play this game. The rest of the conferences have not.
 
The reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good is because they play at least 6 ranked teams. The reason Iowa's strength of schedule is one of the worst in the country is because they don't. It's that simple.

ISU is 2-3 and not one team has been ranked when they played them. Plus they just gave up 776 yards and 66 pts to an unranked team. Good job enjoy another 2-3 win season. Though I'm sure years down the line we can enjoy the asterisk next to all the ISU crappy seasons indicating their SOS which is the real reason they finished so poorly.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HerkyFan
The reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good is because they play at least 6 ranked teams. The reason Iowa's strength of schedule is one of the worst in the country is because they don't. It's that simple.
Yep...and one reason is because ISU doesn't get to play ISU like the rest of the teams in the Big 12. The point is not debatable.
 
I believe Iowa would've won even more conference titles if it played in the Big8/12 the last 30 years instead of the B1G. No doubt about it.
 
The reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good is because they play at least 6 ranked teams. The reason Iowa's strength of schedule is one of the worst in the country is because they don't. It's that simple.

It is simple. If isu had played Iowa's schedule to date they would be 2-4 at best and probably more like 1-5.

Oh and if Iowa is one of the worst schedules in the country then tell Sagarin to reflect that. Right now it has Iowa at 44 and isu is 29.

Let us know when you get that done dogs rule. Good luck.
 
Oh because I forgot the Nebraska boards are full of rational fans who never make hypocritical comments. With mods who never ban any person or opposing fans who make critical comments of the Huskers. Gotcha. Seriously get off your high horse.

If this is the case why the F are you, a husker fan, trying to prove here? I'll never understand opposing fan who goes to another teams board who actually thinks he will change other fan bases opinion or think he will get a good response, or better yet shocked when he receives a negative response when they rip on that school bragging about their own.
Evidently there is much in life you don't understand. Good luck to the Hawks this weekend.
 
Well, the one thing we have established here is that Pollard would be wise to consult with this board before he makes a new hire after canning CPR at the end of the year.
You're welcome, Jamie.
 
dogs rule said:
The reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good is because they play at least 6 ranked teams. The reason Iowa's strength of schedule is one of the worst in the country is because they don't. It's that simple.
Click to expand...
It is simple. If isu had played Iowa's schedule to date they would be 2-4 at best and probably more like 1-5.

Oh and if Iowa is one of the worst schedules in the country then tell Sagarin to reflect that. Right now it has Iowa at 44 and isu is 29.

Let us know when you get that done dogs rule. Good luck.



I would like to hear your response to this as well, dogs rule. Specifically how Iowa has one of the worst strength of schedules in the country while Sagarin has them at 44.
 
dogs rule said:
The reason ISU's strength of schedule is so good is because they play at least 6 ranked teams. The reason Iowa's strength of schedule is one of the worst in the country is because they don't. It's that simple.
Click to expand...
It is simple. If isu had played Iowa's schedule to date they would be 2-4 at best and probably more like 1-5.

Oh and if Iowa is one of the worst schedules in the country then tell Sagarin to reflect that. Right now it has Iowa at 44 and isu is 29.

Let us know when you get that done dogs rule. Good luck.



I would like to hear your response to this as well, dogs rule. Specifically how Iowa has one of the worst strength of schedules in the country while Sagarin has them at 44.

I have a feeling dogs rule will be like most clone fans and have no answer as to why Sagarin has Iowa with a SOS of 44 and isu 29 right now. When a clone fan myth is busted they tend to run away and hide or ignore it all together.

So let's see if my hypothesis holds shall we?
 
Fremeau efficiency index. I'm not going to continue to do homework for you people who only watch Iowa football and nothing else. Just be happy you're squeaking by some crappy teams and be glad you have such an easy road. BTW, Iowa State 8th as of right now, Iowa 88th. It will continue to separate as the year goes on.
 
Fremeau efficiency index. I'm not going to continue to do homework for you people who only watch Iowa football and nothing else. Just be happy you're squeaking by some crappy teams and be glad you have such an easy road. BTW, Iowa State 8th as of right now, Iowa 88th. It will continue to separate as the year goes on.

So we must ignore the clone fan go to known as Sagarin?

Hey dogs rule what national newspapers regularly publish this Fremaue efficiency index you are touting? While you are at it can you tell me all the national radio shows its author is typically on?

Or this just another clone fan searching desperately for something anything to support their bogus argument?

TIA
 
You're kidding, right? Further proof of your ignorance of college football. Ever heard of ESPN? I'm done.
 
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT