You mean the one where they have Virginia as the 26th best team in the country at 1-4?
No really no one would laugh at that. Clone fans will buy anything.
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You mean the one where they have Virginia as the 26th best team in the country at 1-4?
No really no one would laugh at that. Clone fans will buy anything.
I'm not exactly sure why you would toot your horn about this. ISU is losing games by a million points. 2-10 with an enormous margin of loss is not that much more awesome than 2-10 with a large margin of loss. Texas Tech has played six times, and they have only score more than 66 once...when they put 69 on Sam Houston State. Would you feel that much better if you had played Iowa's conference schedule and lost your first two games 24-6 and 21-10? Only ISU would likely have a few more injuries, because, you know, someone may have been tackled, or at least made contact with another player.
It doesn't matter which major conference ISU is in, they would be bad. The only thing that is debatable is whether ISU would get killed in the B1G too, or just maimed. Either way, they would lose, and they would do it regularly.
Maybe become an Oklahoma or TCU fan, your entire argument is just you blathering about how good they are. Start enjoying their success. My God. It's like bragging on death row about how much more painful and inhumane your form execution is going to be compared to the other inmates. Way to go Cyclone John! We'll never forgot how loud you screamed for your mom when the executioner made you eat you own balls before they hung your ass in the town square.
So, we Hawk fans should use some index that none of us has ever heard of before as opposed to a nationally recognized Sagarin? I expect you to use examples that support your position, but at least use one that we can agree upon.
What's more, I don't think that you need to come to a Iowa Hawkeye forum to discuss the relative merits of the Big Twelve compared to the Big Ten or Iowa State's schedule compared to Iowa's. ISU's out of conference games are not such that Iowa could not have gone undefeated through them as well. You shouldn't hold Iowa accountable for a schedule within the B1G that they had no control over. Furthermore, teams that did not appear to be challenging before the season (Northwestern) now look very favorably nationally.
I get how frustrating it must be to bleed for a team, like Iowa State, who may never compete for a conference football championship. As a Hawkeye fan for well over 40 years, I've seen the bad times too. You are not being reasonable, however, when you consider that Iowa can only play the games it has on it's schedule. This schedule has been set up for several years. The powers that be don't have a crystal ball that forecasts strength of schedule. I'm certain that ten years ago no one thought Baylor would be the kind of team that greatly impacted a conference's strength of schedule, just like no one predicted that Northwestern or Iowa would improve the B1G's this season. I just wish that fans, like you, wouldn't come to a Iowa forum and pick fights about which conference is better, whose strength of schedule is better, ect. and be offended when I/we defend our school and the conference it is in.
You are the poster boy for opponents to legalized doobie. Keep on smoking.
Keep your opinion, just try to base it on some facts, data or statistics is all. Not complicated.
Congrats on your strength of schedule. At least it gives you some reason to go to a rival message board and explain why you get your ass kicked week after week and year after year.
Iowa State is and almost always has been one of the worst programs in the country. The clowns bounce up once in a while with a winning season around 6-5 or 7-5 but the usual ceiling is around 4 wins. Its a boring college town, the weather is bad, the school is far more academically rigid than some of the more flexible schools in the conference (like the optional reading programs at Texas, Okie and Okie State). ISU lacks many professional schools and generally produce a much less affluent alumni group than their competitors.
Its just a tragedy for the Iowa State fans. However, its a recurring tragedy and they know what they're in for every season. I actually have come to pity them more than hate them. However, Iowa can only support one successful P5 team, just not enough population, so ISU needs to remain the Clown show it is for Iowa to prosper.
Its just a tragedy for the Iowa State fans. However, its a recurring tragedy and they know what they're in for every season. I actually have come to pity them more than hate them. However, Iowa can only support one successful P5 team, just not enough population, so ISU needs to remain the Clown show it is for Iowa to prosper.
I was pointing out how ironic you are here calling out Iowa fans for being irrational and hypoctical on our message board. Pot meet kettle cause plenty of fans on Nebraska boards and every other schools boards who you could make same claim. Nothing I said had anything to do with stats or data. As for facts read your own teams boards and you'll see plenty of them on there as much as here. Really not that complicated...
Good thing nothing you said had to do with stats and data as those pesky things all favor Neb. I am simply offering all my hawk friends some pointers on a good fact based argument that the Hawks are great, simply state that the Hawks are 6-0 and Neb is 2-4. That is literally all you have that works in your favor, use it. Hope CJB stays healthy the rest of the season, wouldn't want you guys to have a built in excuse if things start to go south.
The defense may not be horrible, but they clearly haven't figured out how to defend the video game spread offenses.
TCU will be another rough day. They were banged up early in the year and I underestimated them, but they've either got guys back or the replacements have been coached up. They are much better and they have been lucky too.
Going down to Baylor next week is the real nightmare. They really have it going on. They will be able to name the score.
Looking at the way the Texas Tech receivers blocked was impressive. Maybe not always by the rules, but they clearly trained to block. And that opens up the speedsters for big gains. Iowa State tries to run similar plays but the receivers don't lock up the defenders and too many plays go for nothing.
The QB gets rid of the ball so quick, what goes on in the trenches doesn't matter for much of their playbook.
I think the key to beating these teams is to put some pressure on the QB by blitzing from the side and force him to run opposite his throwing arm making it difficult to get off a good pass downfield. The problem is most of these guys are fast and elusive and can get chucks of yard with their feet.
I really think it takes speed to slow these spread teams down. And that is a problem when you build your defense for speed, then face a team that makes yards the old fashioned way - behind big offensive lineman and great running backs. ISU's defensive backs were afraid of getting beat downfield and kept backing off the receivers. The coaches wanted them to play up tighter. I don't know if it would have made a difference either way. Burn you deep or burn you short. Pick your poison.
Nebraska was in 6 title games, winning 2 in the early years. I had to look it up when you said they played in it their final 2 years. Iowa State nearly said goodbye to them by winning the last two, if not for a failed two point try that was completely open. My impression is that they certainly weren't the Nebraska of old, so it surprised me they actually made the championship those last two years. The year Texas Tech drilled them 70-10 was a clear signal that the Nebraska of old was no more. That year was 2004.
I believe Sagarin publishes SOS for games that have been played. I don't think it includes future games.
The toughest part of ISU's schedule is in front of them - TCU(4), @Baylor(2), Texas(58), @Oklahoma(15), Oklahoma State(18), @Kansas State(25), @West Virginia(27).
Iowa's remaining schedule is - @Northwestern(29), Maryland(86), @Indiana(73), Minnesota(61), Purdue(113), @Nebraska(51).
The numbers in parenthesis are the current Sagarin rankings. You can find those here.
Well, just think how much worse it would be for the Clones if they didn't have a genius Defensive Coordinator on the staff.
No one is saying the offenses aren'
No one is saying the big12 doesn't have good offenses. It's just that the defenses are equally bad. I watched part of the Oklahoma-Texas game and the tackling was horrible. No physicality at all. I've noticed it in a lot of big12 games.
Lol, haven't really read thread but you're either a Skirt fan or live in Texas. That's all the hicks I've met in my life. So which is it?! Please say both!
They did and should of beat Texas in one of the title games.....moral of the story big ten > big 12
What the hell difference does that make? Unless they want to try and claim ISU would be 6-0 at this point with Iowa's schedule (that would be laughable) it doesn't make one bit of difference. It's nothing more than a battle flag they use as an excuse for 2 win seasons.
Yep and if isu plays Iowa's schedule to date they are ether 2-4 or 1-5. I don't see isu beating Illinois State so 1-5 it is.
So much for the isu would win more games with Iowa's schedule argument.
I prefer the movie "Friday" version, no need to call names.
"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son." Also seems appropriate for you youngster.
Reading must not be your strong point. Nothing in previous post had to do with stats or data or Iowa being better than Nebraska. It was about you dumb idiotic comment that stated- My previous post were simply pointing out hawk fan hypocrisy that riddles this board.
Which is ironic due to stuff you've posted and all the crazies on the nebraska boards who do the exact same thing you are trying to point out plus we've seen this from the husker fans who use to visit here. But aren't here as much the last few weeks. Hmm wonder why?
However if you want stats since you say Nebby has all those things over Iowa except for one important one, Wins. Iowa 6, Nebraska 2. But if you want stats may not be true that Iowa lacks in them all. Iowa is #35 in rush offense, nebraska 45th, Iowa rush defense #5, nebraska 8th, total defense iowa #23, nebraska not in top 50 via the NCAA website. Just to name a few so I guess nebby doesn't lead Iowa in all those pesky things. If you want built in excuses how about you go back to your own cease pool of a board and enjoy the Mike Reilly era.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs
I was calling out the bitter fans on hear trying to rewrite history without use of empirical data. In nearly every post I stated that hawk fan could rightly brag on the 2015 accomplishments. Not sure why it took two paragraphs, but I appreciate you taking my advice and only talking about this season.
As will our records and scoring margin. Just 'cuz you play tough teams doesn't justify getting publicly stoned by all of them. Play a few of them at least somewhat close and maybe people would listen a little. Oh, and Toledo doesn't count. They're a MAC team-just beat them. Iowa plays the teams on their schedule and, knock on wood, has beaten them so far.
Never seen a fanbase so proud to get their ass kicked repeatedly. ISU fans stands by themselves.
I usually use the Colley Rankings. I think they are the most complete.
http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
A friend of mine once put it best: Iowa State's problem is, well, it's Iowa State.
The hard core ISUcc fans I know are obsessed with Iowa. Iowa success pains them more than an ISUcc drubbing, especially at this point of the season.
If and when Iowa is bad, it enriches their lives.
It's a useful defense mechanism acquired from decades of failure and Hawkeye envy.
Hayden's Fry's 15 game winning streak irreparably scarred many of them for life.
The hard core ISUcc fans I know are obsessed with Iowa. Iowa success pains them more than an ISUcc drubbing, especially at this point of the season.
If and when Iowa is bad, it enriches their lives.
It's a useful defense mechanism acquired from decades of failure and Hawkeye envy.
Hayden's Fry's 15 game winning streak irreparably scarred many of them for life.
Using anything other than what clone fans tout today doesn't count. Of course once what they are touting today doesn't show what they want, it will be dropped and no one can even bring it up.
Rules according to clone fans.
When the Big 12 was close to imploding, which conferences were sending invitations to ISU ? Certainly not the BIG. Nor were any other of the major conferences. The bottom line is that despite being a very good educational institution ISU'scfootball program has no real options other than hoping the Big 12 stays in tact because its history does not make it an attractive partner. Iowa does have real history--spurts of doing very well-something ISU has never had and there is no reason to think it can ever be a good program on an ongoing basis.
