For those in the know, how does Iowa's future recruiting classes compare to PSU, Mich. tOSU, etc?
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Is Iowa landing recruits that can compete with Penn St for the next coming years?
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It's not who you recruit it's how you develop them, am I right?
Jesuroga. Riggins. Franklin. Arnold. Block. Kueter (if he ever wrestles)
Add them to Ayala, Schriever, Kennedy and you have some talent in the pipeline. Does it match up to PSU? That remains to be seen.
Add them to Ayala, Schriever, Kennedy and you have some talent in the pipeline. Does it match up to PSU? That remains to be seen.
If Lee’s back next year, Iowa will have a shot. A long one, but a shot to win it all.
I think to have a legit chance next a high level transfer portal guy will be needed.
It’s more than a long shot, PSU loses 3 top 2 guys and still have holes at 3 weights
Fully expect Spencer to led us to a title with a bunch of young guys ala Striebler.
125: Howard
133: ? (Maybe Cael convinces RBY to come back?)
141: Bartlett
149: SVN
157: Berge
165: Facundo
174: Starocci
184: Brooks
197: Dean/Beard
285: Kerkvliet
3 holes?
vs.
125: Lee
133: Schriever/Ayala
141: Henson
149: Murin
157: ?
165: Kennedy
174: Brands
184: Assad
197: Warner
285: Cassioppi
133: ? (Maybe Cael convinces RBY to come back?)
141: Bartlett
149: SVN
157: Berge
165: Facundo
174: Starocci
184: Brooks
197: Dean/Beard
285: Kerkvliet
3 holes?
vs.
125: Lee
133: Schriever/Ayala
141: Henson
149: Murin
157: ?
165: Kennedy
174: Brands
184: Assad
197: Warner
285: Cassioppi
This. I think Iowa competes next year. A lot of talent is leaving the wrestling pool after this year. I’m also pretty high in Henson, Kennedy, and I think Cullan improves.
With 25 pts from Lee, Iowa will be right in the mix next year.
So Steen 125 and Howard 133? I wasn't sure if Berge was going to come back for his "super senior" season or not, since he already retired once. I'm not ready to write Facundo off because of a bad Southern Scuffle as a true freshman, but I wish him all the collegiate success of other elite PSU recruits like Manville.
Seems wild that a lot of pundits want to write us off next year. We’ll be right in the thick of it if healthy.
When was the last time the Hawks were healthy? (Serious question)
Ah that's right. How quickly I forget. They cancelled the national tourney the morning or two prior. What a damn shame.
I expect both Iowa and PSU to bring in a high profile transfer or two so its tough to predict next year right now. As of now though I don't think Iowa is too far behind PSU. It should be close. 2 and 3 years out is hard to predict. HS talent doesn't always translate. We will know more next year when the young guys start wrestling in duals.
On paper we are not on the same level. Previously during the lengthy title drought we were shitting the bed on the recruiting front, not getting near enough top end (top 10 overall) recruits compared to PSU especially but osu as well. We addressed the issue got Spencer, Kem, Warner, Bull, Tony, ADS jumped to that level, Eirman a proven talent. This latest group of commits seems to have drifted back towards quantity. Drake Ayala and Kennedy are that top level, Henson in the neighborhood. Gabe Arnold is there. Nate Jesuroga is there. Kueter is that level but the football thing clouds that. Franklin, Rathjen, Reyna, Riggins, Block, Schriever are talented but are in that next tier. Joel Jesuroga, Jace Rhodes, Bradley Hill, Drake Rhodes, Big Red, Micky Griffith and the Martinsons are probably another tier down. IMO we need at least a couple more of the top end blue chips or transfer equivalents.
I agree with most of this but I think Riggins is in that blue chip tier. You could make an argument for Schriever as well. If not for a injury his senior year of hs he would have been top 20 p4p in his class.
I completely forgot the new wrestling facility. That will change the recruiting landscape quickly.
I believe it's supposed to break ground this spring/summer ... correct?
Riggins could very well end up at that level, I agree he looks very talented but I was talking more on paper his overall ranking is not in that top tier. Schriever wasn't in the top tier either after the injuries. Right now Schriever would be ranked outside AA level in the #15 give or take neighborhood. Bottom line is we need high AA and national champ level wrestlers to win titles. Next year we have Spencer, Cass and Warner coming back who meet that criteria, (all top tier recruits) and it will be the last year for 2 of them. Nobody else on the team has proven they are likely top 4 and the 3 most encouraging to get there are Ayala and Kennedy who were top tier recruits and Henson who was right there close. To be a yearly title contender you need your fair share of top tier recruits.
I think another thing is clear, the past decade there were a lot of unicorns. That’s not the case currently.
Either team that can land a stud transfer, would have a clear edge in my opinion. We need to fill 157, F*** guys have more holes maybe but more high end returning fire power. With Lee back It would appear we would be favored at 25, 49, 65 and heavy.
33 I guess, remains to be seen, but i like us here also. 41 looks pretty good too, but we have to see who does what when the lights are on. Brands is tuff but would have to jump levels to challenge at 74, Assad the same at 84. Warner at 97 just pisses me off!!!
Get a stud to fill 57, and IF Fale does not add another 3 guys to the line up like this year? We become the favorites!
33 I guess, remains to be seen, but i like us here also. 41 looks pretty good too, but we have to see who does what when the lights are on. Brands is tuff but would have to jump levels to challenge at 74, Assad the same at 84. Warner at 97 just pisses me off!!!
Get a stud to fill 57, and IF Fale does not add another 3 guys to the line up like this year? We become the favorites!
If he comes back healthy, Van Ness is expected at 149 for PSU next year and could be a tough matchup for Murin.
Levi Haines is unbeaten in two college opens so far this year and he is killing people. PSU will probably plug him at 157 as a true freshman. He could face Paddy Gallager in the semis at Edinboro Open and if Gallager takes the mat I wouldn't be surprised if Haines wins. Probably will be AA level right out of the gate.
Howard will be 125 for them. If RBY actually does move on you can bet they will convince a high AA transfer to hit the portal. 141 will be Bartlett, 149 probably Van Ness although he hasn't proven any more than Bartlett to this point. I'd guess Haines at 157, Facundo at 165, Starocci at 174, Brooks 184, Dean 197 and Kerk 285. Beard enjoying Bench time.
Haines ain’t beating Paddy. Of that I’m certain. Unless he loads for bear, and turns into a physical monster over night… Paddy just built different.
I wouldn't be so sure. Have you watched much of Haines lately. The kid is special.
Is the new wrestling facility fully funded? Wondering if ground breaking may be delayed due to the $42 million deficient in the 20-21 athletic budget recently announced. The current $262 million athletic dept. total deficit surely will impact dept. functioning in some manner. Can’t be business as usual with that level of deficit.
fosu has yet to prove they can excel with top recruits, the exception being Sasso. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Wrestling raised their own money. It's not coming from the budget.
