Is the Brands' era entering Zalesky level?
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It sounds great but who really wants the job? Seems like Taylor has his own thing going on and maybe Drake. These guys appear to have avenues to explore that weren't available a few years ago.
Having not read all the replies, the short answer to this question is...probably. It certainly looks like a program that has lost it's edge and style. There are still a lot of good things about it but it is in desperate need of a refresh on some level.
I'm sure the Brands fellows know how to coach, I'm sure they can learn new things, so I would look into a training coordinator. Like some kind of organizer or manager who can help them coach. Ever see those bar or restaurant rescues? Often times small changes can add up.
Keep tom as Head coach...Move Terry to the HWC and Mstar goes to recruiting coordinator... then hire Nolf or Marstellar to be assistant coach and Cox to be Upper weights assistant coach.
This Penn St. dual is HUGE. (I know I know ... and water is wet). But clearly, the gap is widening between Iowa and PSU, and this performance (happening on the heels of one of the worst performances in the Brands era) could make or break them.
There are lots of places cranking out great talent (like AWA) and Iowa doesn't see any of it!!!!
Current assistants need coordinator/analyst jobs. We have to have new blood assistants that bring something other than Iowa. I could only pray we would get a Nolf as an assistant. Humble, hard worker, varied offense, and scrambling ability.
If Tom could handle not having a complete "yes man" as an assistant, he'd bring in Gilman after the Olympics/Olympic Trials
Best of both worlds. Hawk but has been in the PSU system and could bring those training methods with him.
Best of both worlds. Hawk but has been in the PSU system and could bring those training methods with him.
It isn't necessarily that simple. If a recruiting coordinator isn't one of the allowed assistant coaches they cannot recruit off campus. It's a good title to have, just not sure that's the role for Morningstar. Perhaps it might be time for him to move on.
I can't imagine living in a world where someone wants Thomas Gilman to coach for them. No thanks.
I know time heals all wounds but Gilman has been a little prick since he's left. The level of hypocrisy he's displayed is world class. He's shown such disrespect for this program. Plus, I thought we unanimously agreed that we need a coach in the upper/middle weights?
We need a coach that can change the way we train - and PSU is doing it better than everyone else.
Who better than a former Hawk? and yes, there would need to be an apology tour, lol
We still need new upper weight coaches. I'd get:
Kem
Gwiz
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hate to say it, but I always thought Dresser would have been a good addition when he was coaching at VTech.
For Iowa to stop waiting for psu to have off years to contend for titles again, we need star power and future leaders of boys and men. Big shifts require big actions.
Tervel Dlagnav
Kyle Dake
Kemerer
Spencer Lee
a sport psychology counselor.
a human biomechanics specialist
For Iowa to stop waiting for psu to have off years to contend for titles again, we need star power and future leaders of boys and men. Big shifts require big actions.
Tervel Dlagnav
Kyle Dake
Kemerer
Spencer Lee
a sport psychology counselor.
a human biomechanics specialist
Marsteller! That name doesn't usually come up in these convos, but it should. He very quickly built an elite club in PA while training for his own career. His kids love him. He's an outstanding technician. I would love that hire.
Let me get this straight - you're so miffed about his words you don't think recruits wouldn't want to come wrestle for him? come on man.
He's been under Tom/Terry, has mutliple world level medals, an olympic bronze - oh, and happened to wrestle for the best program in the nation.
When Spencer beats him for the spot at the trials - an olive branch needs to be quickly extended to bring him home. The fans will be just fine when we start winning again and actually see year over year improvement without consistent injuries/burnout.
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lol. yeah. no. not happening. I'm being realistic here.
not being realistic? We throw the Brinks truck at DT.
What people don't understand is that most of the guys mentioned don't want to coach college. It's a 12 hour a day job. They can open a club and work in the evenings. Charge $150-200 a kid per month and make more money working less and not dealing with recruiting and NIL.
Exactly, people toss out names but why bother if you’re already making money doing what you love?
Chance is indeed a gem, but, he carries heavy bags. Definitely should start building to a big D-1 job by being a HC at a mid-tier program (Rider, Hofstra, Binghampton).
DT would have an immediate impact on any program he went to. Cael and staff still have many years left so I am concerned that Taylor will eventually end up somewhere else. He has the accomplishments, personality and intelligence to be a very successful coach when the time comes, not to mention years of training under the master. As far as coming to Iowa, well as the saying goes, everyone has their price. Hopefully that number is out of reach, because I'm not sure I can live in a world where David Taylor is coaching at Iowa, lol.
Pretty sure you'd be just fine when we're winning chips (team AND individuals) again.
He was a little prick before he left. Not a new thing at all.
How about someone who isn't a former Hawk? True fresh blood would be something I'm interested in. 1-2 assistants who aren't former Hawkeyes would be more than OK with me.
The two most successful coaches in the history of college wrestling did not end up where they wrestled collegiately. Good enough of a precedent for me.
But one did go back to his alma mater. Then he threatened to leave so they fired the head coach to give him his job. Soon after, he bailed and ran off to PSU when offered a bag of cash and the promise that his new wrestlers would be paid well. Guess who?
20 kids at $200 doesn’t go far. Hell 40 kids at that rate doesn’t hardly pay rent or cover cover expenses, eh?
It would get better if our coach realized you have to actually pursue and then convince recruits to come and wrestle at Iowa.
Yeah, but this is a pretty special coincidence. He's a hawk who's spent in enemy territory as a friendly. I think he'd have a really special impact in terms of the training.
Teske already fully well knows their training methods. I doubt there is anything that new.
What they possess is something we cannot replicate. They are the masters of knowing exact strategies to win specific matches against us.
What part of "end up" didn't you understand. I could not care less if Cael f'd Iowa State. Their problem with him. Regardless it does not change the fact he is one of the two most successful college coaches.
yeah, the we don’t care what they do we only care about us and what we do strategy is not doing so well!
Yeah... umm... you don't see the difference in the situations here... AT ALL????
Without looking it up - that as compared to this Iowa team, Penn State had the higher ranked recruit coming into college at nearly every weight class?
No. I mean Teske coming in as a transfer after spending one year PSU (but 3 at UNI)
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Gilman coming in as a COACH, to coach and be listened to.
#1. Crap
#2. I doubt him and Brands will ever coexist unfortunately. Perfect Iowa mentality with PSU training and program experience!
What the F are you talking about? I have been a Hawkeye wrestling fan since the late 70's. If you can't wrap your head around the fact that Sanderson is at the very least the 2nd most successful coach in the modern history of college wrestling then you may need to check to see if a few synapses aren't firing all that well.
For the second time, that was not aimed at you. It was aimed at PSU trolls. Open your own synapses lest I have to explain it to you again.
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