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Is tipping getting out of control? Yes! 100x YES!

Personal experience this weekend that kinda rubbed me as wrong...

Ate at a sports bar in Grimes and as I was ready to pay the tab. I asked our waitress if there was a fee to use a credit card. Her response..."We already put it on your bill and you get a discount if you pay with cash".

So I was ready to tip based on the original tab.

Am I an asshole on this?
 
Personal experience this weekend that kinda rubbed me as wrong...

Ate at a sports bar in Grimes and as I was ready to pay the tab. I asked our waitress if there was a fee to use a credit card. Her response..."We already put it on your bill and you get a discount if you pay with cash".

So I was ready to tip based on the original tab.

Am I an asshole on this?

No. They just always try and nick you around the edges.
 
Personal experience this weekend that kinda rubbed me as wrong...

Ate at a sports bar in Grimes and as I was ready to pay the tab. I asked our waitress if there was a fee to use a credit card. Her response..."We already put it on your bill and you get a discount if you pay with cash".

So I was ready to tip based on the original tab.

Am I an asshole on this?

Hell no you aren’t the asshole on this. In fact, what they are doing seems pretty dishonest to me. A couple ways this can go down. 1) bill is $83. You throw $100 down and walk out. No discount for you. 2) bill is $73 you give a $100 and ask for 10 back. You really think they are going to go back and remove the fee to benefit you? Doubtful.
 
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Hell no you aren’t the asshole on this. In fact, what they are doing seems pretty dishonest to me. A couple ways this can go down. 1) bill is $83. You throw $100 down and walk out. No discount for you. 2) bill is $73 you give a $100 and ask for 10 back. You really think they are going to go back and remove the fee to benefit you? Doubtful.
We're you at the next table and hear me mumbling????
Bill was $81 and was ready to leave 5 20s and leave.

BTW...I think the credit card fee was 4%.
 
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Personal experience this weekend that kinda rubbed me as wrong...

Ate at a sports bar in Grimes and as I was ready to pay the tab. I asked our waitress if there was a fee to use a credit card. Her response..."We already put it on your bill and you get a discount if you pay with cash".

So I was ready to tip based on the original tab.

Am I an asshole on this?
Tipping in restaurants has traditionally been based on the cost of the meal. Now there are additional charges added in a lot of places, and people who don't notice are paying more in tips than they think.
 
We're you at the next table and hear me mumbling????
Bill was $81 and was ready to leave 5 20s and leave.

BTW...I think the credit card fee was 4%.

See, the credit card costs should be in the cost of the food. Its a cost of doing business and they treat it as a pass through cost. At the same time, other places are refusing cash. Its all nonsense.
 
As it may have already been mentioned because I have not read the entire thread, many times you might be tipping on the added stuff like sales tax and card fees already on your tab.
I blame it all on Covid and the fallout of restaurants seeing an opportunity to increase profits.
Another thing to bitch about...stopped for a quick sandwich at Culver's in south IC on Sunday and inside dining closed for "lack of staff".
And since I just outed Culver's, the place in Grimes was called Food Depot.
 
Made the Today Show this morning.

Tipping at Self Serve?
Yeah, F*** that. I tip for service and nothing else. I also only tip on the meal portion, not taxes.
Carry out or places that don’t actually provide service aside from making food and handing me food is no tip— Panera, Fuzzy’s, Subway, etc.
Exception would be a bartender who mixes drinks and hands it to me. Handing me a can is minimal tip.
 
Personal experience this weekend that kinda rubbed me as wrong...

Ate at a sports bar in Grimes and as I was ready to pay the tab. I asked our waitress if there was a fee to use a credit card. Her response..."We already put it on your bill and you get a discount if you pay with cash".

So I was ready to tip based on the original tab.

Am I an asshole on this?
I see that fee a lot anymore. I think it's getting to be pretty standard. I'll see like $2 bucks for credit card payment.
 
Personal experience this weekend that kinda rubbed me as wrong...

Ate at a sports bar in Grimes and as I was ready to pay the tab. I asked our waitress if there was a fee to use a credit card. Her response..."We already put it on your bill and you get a discount if you pay with cash".

So I was ready to tip based on the original tab.

Am I an asshole on this?
This is the one thing you're not an asshole on 😉. I'm curious what place this was? My office is in Grimes and I eat there 2-3 times a week. I've probably paid this fee and never noticed.
 
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I see that fee a lot anymore. I think it's getting to be pretty standard. I'll see like $2 bucks for credit card payment.
It's becoming more prevalent for sure. I stopped for gas at a ma and pa small town gas station that was doing it on all purchases including fuel. Makes using my CC worthless.
 
The cost of eating out is so much more than home. I can eat for the rest of the week on what the lady friend and I have at one dinner and we dont drink.
We have cut down eating out by about 80%. We used to go once a week during the work week. Now we might get take out once a month so we don’t have to pay for drinks and tips.

As I type this, MSNBC is going to discuss the pressure to tip coming out of commercial.
 
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I see that fee a lot anymore. I think it's getting to be pretty standard. I'll see like $2 bucks for credit card payment.

At least they're honest about it,.. Most businesses use cost of goods and services, plus fixed overhead, plus profit, plus an automatic up-charge for possible credit card use and that's the price, period...
 
At least they're honest about it,.. Most businesses use cost of goods and services, plus fixed overhead, plus profit, plus an automatic up-charge for possible credit card use and that's the price, period...
I don't care what a restaurant adds to the total of their food as long as that price is the price listed on the menu. I can chose to pay that or not. I hate the extra 4% being snuck in for using a card. If you charge a percent or dollar amount, fine. Have your staff make that known before you order.
 
Nowadays, even for straight out legit carryout, when they bring the ole square pad out, it has pre-calculated tips right in your face. In the old days, I don't think I ever tipped just carry out. Now, I do sheepishly. Feels wrong and violated but what the heck.
 
I don't care what a restaurant adds to the total of their food as long as that price is the price listed on the menu. I can chose to pay that or not. I hate the extra 4% being snuck in for using a card. If you charge a percent or dollar amount, fine. Have your staff make that known before you order.

I think most people understand that the extra 4-5% for credit card usage is normally part of the tab, whether you're using a card or not....
 
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We're you at the next table and hear me mumbling????
Bill was $81 and was ready to leave 5 20s and leave.

BTW...I think the credit card fee was 4%.

4%?? Isn't the average fee like 2% from the credit card companies?? So they are making money off the credit card fees now as well huh?

I guess I am just to trusting. I normally just throw out the credit card or check what I owe and pay cash. I need to start looking over the tabs.
 
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I guess I am just to trusting. I normally just throw out the credit card or check what I owe and pay cash. I need to start looking over the tabs.

No, you're doing it right,.. just pay the tab and tip for service received.
 
Its the % part that gets me. Why is the % for a tip higher and higher? There is already inflation in the food and drink costs. Most of the places now start at 18% and that's just nonsense. I can remember when 11% was normal. I do 15% for just basic service and 20% for someone who actually did provide good service. That's as far as I will go.
 
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As it may have already been mentioned because I have not read the entire thread, many times you might be tipping on the added stuff like sales tax and card fees already on your tab.
I blame it all on Covid and the fallout of restaurants seeing an opportunity to increase profits.
Another thing to bitch about...stopped for a quick sandwich at Culver's in south IC on Sunday and inside dining closed for "lack of staff".
And since I just outed Culver's, the place in Grimes was called Food Depot.
I’ve never noticed that at Food Depot. Won’t keep me away because I love their food but disappointing for sure.
 
If you tell the server you’re going to pay with cash will restaurants keep the card fee off the bill?
 
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I got a cheap hair cut today at Cost Cutters and was extremely pleased to see a perfectly trimmed back-of-neck hair line. Perfectly straight. With symmetrical sides. I gave a 100% tip for that because that's the one spot where hair cutters, barbers and numerous aficionados of cutting hair seem to regularly feck up.
 
Was at Subway last week, there was a jar that said Tips Appreciated.

Since when do you tip for fast food??????
 
4%?? Isn't the average fee like 2% from the credit card companies?? So they are making money off the credit card fees now as well huh?

I guess I am just to trusting. I normally just throw out the credit card or check what I owe and pay cash. I need to start looking over the tabs.

Credit Card costs used to be around 2% but those fees have gone up considerably over the years and it is getting crazy how much retailers have to pay in cc fees. The payments industry is the only industry I am aware of where they issue price increases twice per year every single year (April 1st and October 1st) and it doesn't matter if you are as big as Walmart or Amazon you are stuck paying them and then ultimately passing it on to your customers. The bad part about them is that customers that pay via cash ultimately end up getting overcharged to supplement the fees for everyone that pays via credit card especially those customers that have high reward cards that are the most expensive for retailers. We need legislation like Europe has done in this area. Those that have high rewards cards won't like that but it is needed to level the playing field for everyone else.
 
Credit Card costs used to be around 2% but those fees have gone up considerably over the years and it is getting crazy how much retailers have to pay in cc fees. The payments industry is the only industry I am aware of where they issue price increases twice per year every single year (April 1st and October 1st) and it doesn't matter if you are as big as Walmart or Amazon you are stuck paying them and then ultimately passing it on to your customers. The bad part about them is that customers that pay via cash ultimately end up getting overcharged to supplement the fees for everyone that pays via credit card especially those customers that have high reward cards that are the most expensive for retailers. We need legislation like Europe has done in this area. Those that have high rewards cards won't like that but it is needed to level the playing field for everyone else.
It's normally like 3-4 percent.

Huh… good to know. I was not aware the fees were that high.
 
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