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ISU. A quality win.

Beating Iowa does nothing for ISU. As much as you like to say that in football, it is now true for us in basketball.

another stupid ISU post...comparing an ISU football program to an Iowa BB program. How has that ISU football program done for you recently?

Iowa Basketball?
65% winning Pct over the last 3 plus years.
2 straight NCAA Tournaments
12-6 in one of the best conferences in the country
4 straight post season tourneys.

Beating Iowa BB does nothing?...once again an ISU fan proves to me why I hope ISU loses every single game in every single sport..

ISU should win Thursday... the better team at home ..but if you don't think your players & new coach don't think this game doesn't do something for them & their post season resume....I'd think they would slap you along side your head and tell you wake up.

This post is all about the typical ISU little brother syndrome.

I give ISU football (not their moron fans) credit. They play us tough every game & have won some times when Iowa should have. Maybe its our turn in BB this week...if we do pull it off..you'll be nowhere to be found on HR.
 
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No, I'm talking about the lack of quality wins by Iowa in football, which was created by the ridiculous scheduling created when you have a 14 team conference and divisions.

Both ISU and UI will have quality wins in BBall.

ISU fan talking about quality wins...yep all 12 of them. Jealousy is a terrible thing isn't it? Anyone who runs the table playing in a B1G Conference did so with quality play resulting in quality wins.

Yep I'll take a perfect 12-0 season - a #4 ranking ...all an ISU fan wants to talk about is the quality of the competition based on the size of the conference. Wow brilliant.

Ok well hope your new FB coach can find away to get back to 500 hundred next year.
 
A win against Iowa will end up being one of their best 5 non conference wins for sure so it absolutely means something. At A&M/Cincy would be top 2 and then you could bunch Iowa at home and UNI/Colorado on a neutral court together most likely.
 
As much as it pains me, I'm expecting the Hawkeyes to get blown out in Ames on Thursday. I don't think we're that good of a team. We have one great player (Uthoff), a couple good ones, a few decent shooters, and then a bunch of young unproven guys.

A win over #2 ISU would look good enough on our resume that we can get into the NCAA Tournament with 18 or 19 wins, barring major injuries or a total collapse in the Big Ten season.

I think Iowa will give ISU a good game. If Sapp plays defense against Morris like he did last night against Western's Fuller he'll cause some disruption. This is an important game for the seniors and their motivation will be a definite influence in the game.
 
Apparently, when you are Iowa, you don't have to worry about quality wins. What did you have this year in football, 2?

I am glad it is on national TV, now the douchy clone fan behavior will be right there for everyone to see.
 
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Apparently, when you are Iowa, you don't have to worry about quality wins. What did you have this year in football, 2?
Iowa has more quality wins this year in football than isu has had total in the past 3 years combined.
 
You Hawks have a good team and it wouldn't shock me if they win. However, to lose at home while being ranked top five to an unranked team would suck giant, hairy balls. Stay classy everyone.
 
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You Hawks have a good team and it wouldn't shock me if they win. However, to lose at home while being ranked top five to an unranked team would suck giant, hairy balls. Stay classy everyone.

There is a reason the words isu and class are not in the same sentence.

Jamie Pollard is exhibit a. and clone fans stand and cheer him on. Just like BDJ.
 
As much as it pains me, I'm expecting the Hawkeyes to get blown out in Ames on Thursday. I don't think we're that good of a team. We have one great player (Uthoff), a couple good ones, a few decent shooters, and then a bunch of young unproven guys.

A win over #2 ISU would look good enough on our resume that we can get into the NCAA Tournament with 18 or 19 wins, barring major injuries or a total collapse in the Big Ten season.
three years ago Iowa started three freshmen playing their 8th game in college versus ISU's team that featured 3 or 4 seniors including a 25 year old, and Iowa won.
 
RPI has ISU's SOS at 43 and Iowa at 63.

RPI is the worst metric there is out there.

It can be abused like the WAC did a few years back and then got shellacked in the tournament because they didn't belong there. Kind of like the Big 12 in the NCAA tourney, perenial underachievers. hampton and uab have ISU's tourney dignity back in their trophy cases.
 
No metric is perfect. RPI is what the committee uses so that's what I use.

*they used to use. and have devalued it year after year recently. the RPI now only functions as about 25% of their evaluation last year but don't let that stop you, you're surely on to something and all the basketball analysts that trash RPI don't know what they are talking about.
 
Man you guys are sensitive about your football teams strength of schedule. You would think you would just be thankful for the good year and going to the rose bowl.

And by the way, i didn't bring ISU or UI football up into a BBall forum. The original poster (thewop) did.
 
Man you guys are sensitive about your football teams strength of schedule. You would think you would just be thankful for the good year and going to the rose bowl.

And by the way, i didn't bring ISU or UI football up into a BBall forum. The original poster (thewop) did.

Clone fans truly believe that Iowa isn't as good as their record is due to schedule. It further cements just now little clone fans know about football. Either that or blind jealousy of the Hawks leads to the posts from clone fans.

So tell us which it is farcyted.
 
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A win against Iowa will end up being one of their best 5 non conference wins for sure so it absolutely means something. At A&M/Cincy would be top 2 and then you could bunch Iowa at home and UNI/Colorado on a neutral court together most likely.

If chalk plays, an ISU win over Iowa would be its 2nd best OOC win. Iowa projects to be one RPI slot below Cincinnati and above A&M, Colorado and UNI.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/index2.html

Also, based upon projections, a win over Iowa would be a top 5 win for ISU this year (assuming that ISU could also hang a loss on OU, WVU and KU).
 
If chalk plays, an ISU win over Iowa would be its 2nd best OOC win. Iowa projects to be one RPI slot below Cincinnati and above A&M, Colorado and UNI.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/index2.html

Also, based upon projections, a win over Iowa would be a top 5 win for ISU this year (assuming that ISU could also hang a loss on OU, WVU and KU).

Iowa is the only home game of those 5 OOC games listed so I think the neutral court/away games might carry more weight for me.

Half of the big 12 is in the top 20 right now so I don't think a home win over Iowa will end up being a top 5 win at the end of the season but it'll be interesting to see at the end of the year
 
Iowa is the only home game of those 5 OOC games listed so I think the neutral court/away games might carry more weight for me.

Half of the big 12 is in the top 20 right now so I don't think a home win over Iowa will end up being a top 5 win at the end of the season but it'll be interesting to see at the end of the year

I have seen this movie three times so let's go for four. The past 3 years the Big 12 was supposedly awesome only to get slapped around in the tournament and prove they were OVER-RATED.
 
I have seen this movie three times so let's go for four. The past 3 years the Big 12 was supposedly awesome only to get slapped around in the tournament and prove they were OVER-RATED.

I don't care how the Big 12 does in the tournament. Just want ISU to have a good RPI and quality wins in the regular season to help their seed in the dance
 
I don't care how the Big 12 does in the tournament. Just want ISU to have a good RPI and quality wins in the regular season to help their seed in the dance

Seed didn't help isu against UAB or for most Big 12 teams for that matter. Thus why the entire world has seen this movie three times going on four.
 
Seed didn't help isu against UAB or for most Big 12 teams for that matter. Thus why the entire world has seen this movie three times going on four.

Which was disappointing. Not concerned about the other Big 12 teams though
 
So again isu and the entire Big 12 has been over-rated. The tourney results don't lie.

I don't think ISU was overrated last year. Picked a bad time to play horrible. I mean they did beat up on Iowa pretty bad last year at Carver so I think it's pretty obvious they were a talented squad
 
Apparently, when you are Iowa, you don't have to worry about quality wins. What did you have this year in football, 2?
Why are you posting about football on a BB forum, are you still jealous? Even if we acknowledge your two win statement (which I don't) that is two more than you had.
I do expect the clones to win Thursday but they should in Hilton. If you do win it will be a good win for ISU. I don't believe an Iowa loss is good for our SOS but it won't be a negative as our losing to ISU in FB is.
 
So again isu and the entire Big 12 has been over-rated. The tourney results don't lie.
It's not the big 12s fault they have been outperforming every conference during the non con in recent years. Iowas been a top half big ten team yet you guys got trounced by two big 12 teams last year.
 
It's not the big 12s fault they have been outperforming every conference during the non con in recent years. Iowas been a top half big ten team yet you guys got trounced by two big 12 teams last year.
Since you want to talk about last year. I sure enjoyed the Big 12 in the Elite Eight and Final Four. I guess it was because no Big 12 teams were there, two B1G though.
 
Since you want to talk about last year. I sure enjoyed the Big 12 in the Elite Eight and Final Four. I guess it was because no Big 12 teams were there, two B1G though.

Why do you enjoy Wisconsin being in the Final Four last year? I'd hate it if Kansas got there
 
It's not the big 12s fault they have been outperforming every conference during the non con in recent years. Iowas been a top half big ten team yet you guys got trounced by two big 12 teams last year.

The big 12 has been over rated for 3 years now and it appears this will be the 4th.

Let us know when the big 12 will quit chocking including isu.
 
Why do you enjoy Wisconsin being in the Final Four last year? I'd hate it if Kansas got there

Why did clone fans tout how great the big 12 was for football earlier this fall? Once again the big 12 is looking up at the Big Ten.
 
The big 12 has been over rated for 3 years now and it appears this will be the 4th.

Let us know when the big 12 will quit chocking including isu.

Confused... You say the big 12 is overrated but then go on to say they are choking in the tournament... Are they losing cause they're bad or because they're choking? I agree there has been some choking as well as some unfortunate injuries.
 
Confused... You say the big 12 is overrated but then go on to say they are choking in the tournament... Are they losing cause they're bad or because they're choking? I agree there has been some choking as well as some unfortunate injuries.

Poor poor Big 12 . They are the only conference in the country that has injuries.

Great argument from clone fan. Have any more gems?
 
Confused... You say the big 12 is overrated but then go on to say they are choking in the tournament... Are they losing cause they're bad or because they're choking? I agree there has been some choking as well as some unfortunate injuries.

You are better off just admitting the big 12 has been over rated for years. Or find more excuses for their under-performance.

No one will laugh, really.
 
Confused... You say the big 12 is overrated but then go on to say they are choking in the tournament... Are they losing cause they're bad or because they're choking? I agree there has been some choking as well as some unfortunate injuries.

Well when any 2 or 3 seed loses to a much lower seed such as you guys did to UAB last year, that is called choking. However, I think Big 12 teams should not be given a seed higher than 4 until they can prove they can actually play when it matters the most.
 
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