ADVERTISEMENT

ISU. A quality win.

Because I'm loyal to my conference and I don't have the insecurities in sports that you seem to.

I'm not insecure about anything. I care about ISU athletics and hope the Big 12 has a strong non conference to help out ISU's RPI but hope Kansas gets blown out the first round of every NCAA tournament. I hate Kansas and will never root for them in March
 
Why did clone fans tout how great the big 12 was for football earlier this fall? Once again the big 12 is looking up at the Big Ten.

I didn't. The Big 12 could go undefeated in bowl games this year but that doesn't change the fact ISU went 3-9 and isn't going to make me feel any better about the season
 
I'm not insecure about anything. I care about ISU athletics and hope the Big 12 has a strong non conference to help out ISU's RPI but hope Kansas gets blown out the first round of every NCAA tournament. I hate Kansas and will never root for them in March

Which furthers the point that the big 12 has been over-rated for years. High seeding doesn't appear to help isu as the UAB game proved.
 
I didn't. The Big 12 could go undefeated in bowl games this year but that doesn't change the fact ISU went 3-9 and isn't going to make me feel any better about the season

Big 12 football is just as over-rated as Big 12 basketball.
 
Do you think ISU has been overrated for years?


Does not really matter what someone thinks now does it?

Because, if it did, your question is very easily answered by simply looking at the overall and overwhelming advantage Iowa has in the series - that would be "for years". Otherwise, we continually hear from isu fans how history is tired and old and only the here and now means anything. Seeing as this season still has plenty of games left to determine which team might be overrated, guess 2014-15 is the most recent available to answer your question.

isu was seeded (rated) highly in the NCAA Tourney and lost to an inferior team. That epitomizes overrated, doesn't it?
 
Does not really matter what someone thinks now does it?

Because, if it did, your question is very easily answered by simply looking at the overall and overwhelming advantage Iowa has in the series - that would be "for years". Otherwise, we continually hear from isu fans how history is tired and old and only the here and now means anything. Seeing as this season still has plenty of games left to determine which team might be overrated, guess 2014-15 is the most recent available to answer your question.

isu was seeded (rated) highly in the NCAA Tourney and lost to an inferior team. That epitomizes overrated, doesn't it?

It epitomizes the NCAA tourney. Iowa lost as a 3 seed and that was a very good team. It happens every year to different teams.
 
It epitomizes the NCAA tourney. Iowa lost as a 3 seed and that was a very good team. It happens every year to different teams.

It happens every year to teams from the Big 12. Or must we ignore the last 3?
 
It epitomizes the NCAA tourney. Iowa lost as a 3 seed and that was a very good team. It happens every year to different teams.

No, it does not happen 'every year'... I can certainly understand how isu fans wish for that to be true especially after the embarrassment from March, 2015, but sadly (for you) it still shows UAB as the victor in the opening round.

As for the analogy to Iowa, that particular game happened nearly a decade ago. So, are isu fans now wanting to include YEARS or not? If so, Iowa currently holds an 18 game advantage which will change with the outcome of the game in Ames tomorrow. Generally, it is at this point that isu fans no longer want to talk about 'years'...

The question was whether isu has been overrated recently. The outcome of the UAB game last March clearly shows that the clone team could be considered overrated. They were ranked in the final polls, seeded in the tourney and lost to a vastly inferior team. That is overrated.
 
Didn't awesome isu lose to UAB with McKay? Or is the Iowa game all that matters to little bro?

ISU lost to UAB with McKay yes. Did they play bad or were they overrated? If they are overrated I don't get how they dominated Iowa in Carver
 
  • Like
Reactions: Myvue
ISU lost to UAB with McKay yes. Did they play bad or were they overrated? If they are overrated I don't get how they dominated Iowa in Carver
They were over-rated. Hey while you are talking domination it must really suck for clone fans knowing Iowa and KU have the largest margins of victory in Hilton.

Ouch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: aurorabimmer
They were over-rated. Hey while you are talking domination it must really suck for clone fans knowing Iowa and KU have the largest margins of victory in Hilton.

Ouch.

So then why did they dominate Iowa in Carver last year?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Myvue
So then why did they dominate Iowa in Carver last year?

One game does not make a season unless you are an isu fan apparently.

So do tell us how bad it sucks that Iowa and KU have the largest margins of victory in Hilton?

Or is it not fair for clone fan to answer a question. We won't laugh really.
 
ISU lost to UAB with McKay yes. Did they play bad or were they overrated? If they are overrated I don't get how they dominated Iowa in Carver

Those two games were three months apart. If memory serves, isu barely beat some SWAC (now there is overrated at any level) team (Mississippi Valley State or someone) by the narrowest of margins and very possibly in Ames, to boot. Was isu overrated or playing bad on that day? How about overrated and playing bad as the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive?

The facts remain, it was heard/read/available on many fronts about how good the isu team was last year. Games were played. isu was ranked by those supposedly knowledgeable and objective enough to do so. Hey, isu even won the coveted big xii tourney! Yet, that same ranked and big xii champion (as many of our isu faithful here are wont to describe them) lost to UAB.

Does it make you feel better trying to discredit UAB?
 
One game does not make a season unless you are an isu fan apparently.

So do tell us how bad it sucks that Iowa and KU have the largest margins of victory in Hilton?

Or is it not fair for clone fan to answer a question. We won't laugh really.

So then why do you keep bringing up UAB to say ISU is overrated when that is just one game?

Not sure what you are talking about with the Iowa/KU thing to be completely honest with you
 
So then why do you keep bringing up UAB to say ISU is overrated when that is just one game?

Not sure what you are talking about with the Iowa/KU thing to be completely honest with you

UAB showed that the seed was bogus for isu to begin with. Not sure why you can't grasp how it shows isu being over-rated.

Clone fan loves to talk about dominating Iowa last year but then wants to ignore how bad it sucks for them knowing that Iowa and KU hold the largest margins of victory in Hilton.

Ouch
 
Do you think ISU has been overrated for years?


Here is YOUR original post and question...

I do not see Iowa mentioned at all. Why the sudden need to drag another team into this discussion? The isu team is the subject of your inquiry. How about we address that and only that?
 
Here is YOUR original post and question...

I do not see Iowa mentioned at all. Why the sudden need to drag another team into this discussion? The isu team is the subject of your inquiry. How about we address that and only that?

I find it funny for a fan to call a team overrated when they dominated you in your own house but to each their own. I think ISU deserved their seed and played horrible in the NCAA tournament.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Myvue
So then why do you keep bringing up UAB to say ISU is overrated when that is just one game?

Not sure what you are talking about with the Iowa/KU thing to be completely honest with you

Clone fan may be onto something here.

It makes sense now. The big 12 views the NCAA tourney just another game. No more importance at all. Maybe someday they will grasp that when they lose their season is over. Or maybe not and history will continue to repeat itself.
 
I find it funny for a fan to call a team overrated when they dominated you in your own house but to each their own. I think ISU deserved their seed and played horrible in the NCAA tournament.

If isu deserved their seed they wouldn't have lost to UAB. The seed was given based on a flawed view that the Big 12 teams isu beat were any good. Too bad for clone fan the NCAA tourney proved once again how over-rated isu and the rest of the big 12 was.

Keep dodging my question and I will keep asking it. How bad does it suck that Iowa and KU dominated isu in their own house to the tune of 26 points in the past?

This is fun. Clone fan demands answers to their question but will refuse to answer any themselves.
 
If isu deserved their seed they wouldn't have lost to UAB. The seed was given based on a flawed view that the Big 12 teams isu beat were any good. Too bad for clone fan the NCAA tourney proved once again how over-rated isu and the rest of the big 12 was.

Keep dodging my question and I will keep asking it. How bad does it suck that Iowa and KU dominated isu in their own house to the tune of 26 points in the past?

This is fun. Clone fan demands answers to their question but will refuse to answer any themselves.

So Iowa was overrated in 2005 when they lost as a 3 seed? Upsets happen

I honestly don't know what you're talking about? Reading between the lines I'm assuming Iowa beat ISU by 26 pts at some point in Hilton but I have no idea when that was.
 
I find it funny for a fan to call a team overrated when they dominated you in your own house but to each their own. I think ISU deserved their seed and played horrible in the NCAA tournament.

Two points here... First, the Iowa-isu game December, 2014 had nothing at all to do with YOUR question in YOUR post. Those two things could be considered mutually exclusive, for instance. Also, what YOU think is simply an opinion not supported by much, if any fact. isu was ranked at the end of the regular season and conference tourney last season and was seeded in the tournament. isu then proceeded to lose as that highly ranked and seeded team to UAB.

You asked if " isu had been overrated...." The above is a prime example of a team being overrated.

Second point. isu fans have been all over HR this past spring, summer, into fall and some throughout the entire football season and have utilized the very same thought process (illogical) that you are crying about now. Iowa dominated isu at Jack Trice in Ames. Any real fan able to be even a bit objective about the game knows that. Yet, it is not hard at all to find those that are so obsessed as to still decry Iowa as not worthy of their rankings and acclaim from this 2015 football season. You are now the pot calling the proverbial kettle black.

So, do you agree that isu was overrated as recently as early March of this year in basketball?
 
So Iowa was overrated in 2005 when they lost as a 3 seed? Upsets happen

I honestly don't know what you're talking about? Reading between the lines I'm assuming Iowa beat ISU by 26 pts at some point in Hilton but I have no idea when that was.

Did the rest of the Big Ten get beat in the NCAA tourney that year like the Big 12 has the last 3 years?

Nope not at all. Will clone fan grasp the massive difference, I am betting no.
 
I like how this whole thread is just bashing the big 12 as a basketball conference while mostly also are conceding they will lose tomorrow to a big 12 team...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Myvue
I like how this whole thread is just bashing the big 12 as a basketball conference while mostly also are conceding they will lose tomorrow to a big 12 team...

I love how clone fans ran conference smack during the football season but now wants nothing to do with it.

Clone fans are not myopic because they say so.
 
I like how this whole thread is just bashing the big 12 as a basketball conference while mostly also are conceding they will lose tomorrow to a big 12 team...

What is next, clone fan running men's and women's cross-country smack? I mean that is all you have.

Quit laughing at clone fans they are serious. We better watch it though, Jamie will get pissed and start attacking us on Twitter.
 
I like how this whole thread is just bashing the big 12 as a basketball conference while mostly also are conceding they will lose tomorrow to a big 12 team...

Does that even make any sense?

But, since you are so eager to join in now.. was isu overrated when they played UAB last March?

(And, not necessarily picking on the whole of the big xii, but can it now be stated unequivocally that isu is a basketball school? )
 
Does that even make any sense?

But, since you are so eager to join in now.. was isu overrated when they played UAB last March?

(And, not necessarily picking on the whole of the big xii, but can it now be stated unequivocally that isu is a basketball school? )

Actually isu is a women's cross-country school. At least if you look at the Director Cup standings.

Pollard and clone fans are so proud.
 
Man you guys are sensitive about your football teams strength of schedule. You would think you would just be thankful for the good year and going to the rose bowl.

And by the way, i didn't bring ISU or UI football up into a BBall forum. The original poster (thewop) did.
 
Actually isu is a women's cross-country school. At least if you look at the Director Cup standings.

Pollard and clone fans are so proud.

I hate when people bring up that stupid cup. Football and basketball. The rest can cease to exist for all I care.
 
I hate when people bring up that stupid cup. Football and basketball. The rest can cease to exist for all I care.

But clone fans love the Directors Cup. Pollard will tout isu being ahead throughout the year and then will go silent when Iowa outscores them in the final standings.
 
  • Like
Reactions: srams21
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT