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ISU blowing out KU in 2nd half of B12 title game

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Prohm doesnt seem to put much into beating Iowa. It is certainly more important to fans than it is to him. Fran seemed to put EVERYTHING into beating Iowa State this year (see use of Pemsl).

ISU historically gets better in March (see 4 tourney titles in last 6 years) while Iowa flounders. Why? Who knows. ISU has changed coaches, but seems to get better at the year wears on. Frans teams dont.

I will trade a loss to Iowa in December to winning the Big 12 title every year. I'm sure rational Hawk fans feel the same about winning the BTT.

Winning cures a lot of issues. All is well in Ames right now. Never saw this coming after losing 3 straight, especially vs WV.

If memory serves me right, the players and coach had a hissy fit at the end of the game. I think the ISU coach lost the most important game ot the year unless you can point me to another game where the coach and their center should have been bitch slapped lol
 
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i just wish cyfantic would unban me especially considering my last post before the bannin was apologetic. im sorry moderators please let me back on the ban ends april12 which is after bball season ahhh! when u get bannined u cant even message the mods so if someone could message them fer me thatd be great.
 
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Prohm doesnt seem to put much into beating Iowa. It is certainly more important to fans than it is to him. Fran seemed to put EVERYTHING into beating Iowa State this year (see use of Pemsl).

ISU historically gets better in March (see 4 tourney titles in last 6 years) while Iowa flounders. Why? Who knows. ISU has changed coaches, but seems to get better at the year wears on. Frans teams dont.

I will trade a loss to Iowa in December to winning the Big 12 title every year. I'm sure rational Hawk fans feel the same about winning the BTT.

Winning cures a lot of issues. All is well in Ames right now. Never saw this coming after losing 3 straight, especially vs WV.

You’ve lost all credibility with your “coach doesn’t care” comments. Enjoy your win dude.
 
Sure, if Penn State can beat them, anyone can beat them.

That said, the toughness of an overall league is a cumulative measurement of the entire conference...and the RPI calculation tells the tale, the Big 12 top to bottom is the best conference.

If you doubt me, just wait and see what conference has the highest percentage of its teams make the NCAA tournament...that should end the discussion by itself.
There is a reason the selection committee stopped using the RPI. Good run to win the conference tournament as I wish the Hawks could do half of what ISU does in it.
 
I am not seeking anyone's credibility.

I will end my night with this nugget.

Since 2014, ISU has won 4 conference tournament championships. In that same span, Iowa has won 2 games.

A loss on December 6th < a Big 12 tourney title. End of conversation

If the tables were turned, every Hawk fan on the planet would feel the same way.
 
the one problem iowa has is once u figure them out they are easy to beat. usually iowa is much better in december than isu every year because fran get his teams ready quick but they dont advance much after that partially because of coaching and partially because of personnel. isu to their credit has reinvented themselves a few times this year and they have been harder to figure out for the competition in the last few games but i digress the toughness of the big 10 and acc usually wins out in ncaa tourney so isu will need toughness to advance.
 
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I am not seeking anyone's credibility.

I will end my night with this nugget.

Since 2014, ISU has won 4 conference tournament championships. In that same span, Iowa has won 2 games.

A loss on December 6th < a Big 12 tourney title. End of conversation

If the tables were turned, every Hawk fan on the planet would feel the same way.

Not really —- there’s no comparison between our leagues. The Big 12 has fewer members by a lot, small fan bases and very few programs with any history. Be happy for yourself but the two leagues share nothing in common to compare. ISU has never won the B1G or B1G conference tourney. When that happens gloat all you want.
 
Not really —- there’s no comparison between our leagues. The Big 12 has fewer members by a lot, small fan bases and very few programs with any history. Be happy for yourself but the two leagues share nothing in common to compare. ISU has never won the B1G or B1G conference tourney. When that happens gloat all you want.
This is sort of my thinking in the Big Ten West for football.
 
the big12 has been miserable in ncaa but they did get 3 in the elite 8 last year so they have been improving. its not a talent issue where big12 has struggled. it all toughness and inability to play a slower paced game. the big 12 has as a whole put more emphasis on defense and toughness though in the last 2 years i have noticed. for example iowa is less talented than isu but was much tougher in the game against isu. but as isu defense has improved and iowa offense and defense in stagnation i would expect if isu could match iowa toughness isu would handle easily because of the better personnel.
 
the same reason why iowa beat isu is the reason why isu went 9-9 in conference. lack of toughness and inability to rebound. isu just won the conference tourney because of improved rebounding and improved toughness. an example of the improved toughness is driving and drawing fouls which they kept doing over and over in the last 3 days.
 
Not gloating, just stating a fact.

Iowa should thank their lucky stars they dont play in Big 12. No where to hide. No unbalanced schedule.

Big 14 has 2 teams capable of making a run in NCAA (Michigan and Sparty). Purdue lost all credibility losing to MN. Wisky? Nice team but not a real threat. 2 teams out of 14. I wouldn't call that a real good league.

My opinion doesn't matter, but the national basketball guys' does. They all say ISU is one of those teams able to make a run in NCAA.

What a BTN announcer says about Iowa is irrelevant. They are paid to pump up all 14 teams. I laughed last night watching the Iowa game (mostly at the score) when they said "if Iowa is shorting well they can beat anyone in the country". What a homer comment. The same could be said about UNC Wilmington.
 
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Not gloating, just stating a fact.

Iowa should thank their lucky stars they dont play in Big 12. No where to hide. No unbalanced schedule.

Big 14 has 2 teams capable of making a run in NCAA (Michigan and Sparty). Purdue lost all credibility losing to MN. Wisky? Nice team but not a real threat. 2 teams out of 14. I wouldn't call that a real good league.

My opinion doesn't matter, but the national basketball guys' does. They all say ISU is one of those teams able to make a run in NCAA.

What a BTN announcer says about Iowa is irrelevant. They are paid to pump up all 14 teams. I laughed last night watching the Iowa game (mostly at the score) when they said "if Iowa is shorting well they can beat anyone in the country". What a homer comment. The same could be said about UNC Wilmington.

Results matter. Not opinions. I realize that you beat the best in your conference, but IOWA ripped your arms off and beat you with them. If you want to celebrate your tourney win, I commend you. Trying to convince people that you are better than a team who woodshedded you on their own board is ridiculous. Go celebrate and stop trying to convince us that results are irrelevant.
 
Not gloating, just stating a fact.

Iowa should thank their lucky stars they dont play in Big 12. No where to hide. No unbalanced schedule.

Big 14 has 2 teams capable of making a run in NCAA (Michigan and Sparty). Purdue lost all credibility losing to MN. Wisky? Nice team but not a real threat. 2 teams out of 14. I wouldn't call that a real good league.

My opinion doesn't matter, but the national basketball guys' does. They all say ISU is one of those teams able to make a run in NCAA.

What a BTN announcer says about Iowa is irrelevant. They are paid to pump up all 14 teams. I laughed last night watching the Iowa game (mostly at the score) when they said "if Iowa is shorting well they can beat anyone in the country". What a homer comment. The same could be said about UNC Wilmington.
Lol
 
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Not gloating, just stating a fact.

Iowa should thank their lucky stars they dont play in Big 12. No where to hide. No unbalanced schedule.

Big 14 has 2 teams capable of making a run in NCAA (Michigan and Sparty). Purdue lost all credibility losing to MN. Wisky? Nice team but not a real threat. 2 teams out of 14. I wouldn't call that a real good league.

My opinion doesn't matter, but the national basketball guys' does. They all say ISU is one of those teams able to make a run in NCAA.

What a BTN announcer says about Iowa is irrelevant. They are paid to pump up all 14 teams. I laughed last night watching the Iowa game (mostly at the score) when they said "if Iowa is shorting well they can beat anyone in the country". What a homer comment. The same could be said about UNC Wilmington.

Glad you care enough about the Hawks you watch us and hang out on our board because I can’t say I do the same for ISU.

I would hope ISU could make a run one of these days given all of the great seeds they have gotten over the recent years. The keys for ISU is play close to home and avoid the ACC & B1G. They need that diet of mid-majors, PAC-12 & SEC powerhouses to show the world they invented the game of basketball.

I’m not high on Purdue either but ISU did find a way to lose to them too in the big dance and Painter is known as a tourney choker.
 
You relying on a severely flawed rating system tells me all I need to know about your overall intelligence.

You haven't got a better system...or any system whatsoever...which means your overall intelligence is evidently unable to attain even my lowly level.
Hah! Posting on a clown site (as a Hawkeye fan) might be the only way for me to ‘attain your lowly level,’ but thankfully I don’t suffer from the same small dick syndrome that you do.
 
Sure, if Penn State can beat them, anyone can beat them.

That said, the toughness of an overall league is a cumulative measurement of the entire conference...and the RPI calculation tells the tale, the Big 12 top to bottom is the best conference.

If you doubt me, just wait and see what conference has the highest percentage of its teams make the NCAA tournament...that should end the discussion by itself.

I’ll just wait until the tournament plays out and Big Ten will probably have 2-3 teams in Elite Eight and Big Twelve will have none.
 
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Prohm doesnt seem to put much into beating Iowa. It is certainly more important to fans than it is to him. Fran seemed to put EVERYTHING into beating Iowa State this year (see use of Pemsl).

ISU historically gets better in March (see 4 tourney titles in last 6 years) while Iowa flounders. Why? Who knows. ISU has changed coaches, but seems to get better at the year wears on. Frans teams dont.

I will trade a loss to Iowa in December to winning the Big 12 title every year. I'm sure rational Hawk fans feel the same about winning the BTT.

Winning cures a lot of issues. All is well in Ames right now. Never saw this coming after losing 3 straight, especially vs WV.

Wait ... how come ISU fans don’t let Iowa fans use this exact same excuse about Ferentz?
 
I am not seeking anyone's credibility.

I will end my night with this nugget.

Since 2014, ISU has won 4 conference tournament championships. In that same span, Iowa has won 2 games.

A loss on December 6th < a Big 12 tourney title. End of conversation

If the tables were turned, every Hawk fan on the planet would feel the same way.

Again, why are Cyclone fans such hypocrites then when Ferentz has lost in football to ISU because “he doesn’t take it that seriously” and always ends up having a better overall year then ISU? You can’t have it both ways.
 
Ha you guys would know that better then anyone. That’s why Cycline fans are always hanging out in this board arguing their relevance as Iowa keeps beating then in every sport.

I think you've confused gloating with jealousy...hint: they don't mean the same thing.
 
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I’m not disagreeing with you,
I’m saying can’t it be both?

fair enough, it can be somewhat both. I simply think talent is the major factor and displays a teams upside potential.

I think great coaches have great winning teams because they have great players. Any fool could coach Zion Williams.
 
I think you've confused gloating with jealousy...hint: they don't mean the same thing.

No I’m not confused at all. You guys are always over here even when Iowa consistently beats ISU in numerous sports. You are jealous of your big brother. That’s understandable. The last thing I would do is hang out on an ISU board and I especially wouldn’t if Iowa lost to ISU ... yet I constantly see you guys over here. ISU and Nebraska fans. It must be a Big 8 thing. Wisconsin owns Iowa’s ass in football and basketball over the last decade yet they are never over here gloating. That’s why even though I hate the Badgers, I can respect them. Can’t say the same for Cyclones and Huskers.
 
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