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ISU should be 6 point favorite next Saturday

They are the home team.

They more often than not play their best game of the year against IOWA.

ISU should be the favorite in this game.

Iowa should not go in there as the favorites, no way.

Prove it, Hawks.

Iowa dominated a better team than isu won against. That is all the proof I need. Or should stats be ignored? Isu had 26 yards of total offense against the Hawks. Much different than what occurred in Ames.
 
Iowa dominated a better team than isu won against. That is all the proof I need. Or should stats be ignored? Isu had 26 yards of total offense against the Hawks. Much different than what occurred in Ames.
You are delirious as usual 100. Go bark at the moon until you get your proper dosage!
 
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Iowa dominated a better team than isu won against. That is all the proof I need. Or should stats be ignored? Isu had 26 yards of total offense against the Hawks. Much different than what occurred in Ames.
If you know anything about the recent history of games between IOWA and isu, you should know that stats/anything at all about what happens in the games a week before matter zilch,nada,forget about it. You get that right?
 
I'm guessing you aren't a Vegas bookie? I wish you were though .

I'm guessing you aren't a fan of history or statistics are you?

Kirk is 3-5 straight up in Ames.

How many times do you think Iowa were the favorites?

Probably all 8. I wonder if a Kirk Ferentz led team has ever covered the spread in Ames in 8 tries. Maybe 1 or 2 tops.
 
Iowa dominated a better team than isu won against. That is all the proof I need. Or should stats be ignored? Isu had 26 yards of total offense against the Hawks. Much different than what occurred in Ames.

I read that Ill State lost half their starting line up from last year. They looked pretty bad to me. Maybe a 7-5 FCS team.

Big whoop. ISU spanked UNI 31-7.

There isn't an Iowa WR that would make the ISU two deeps. Iowa's linebackers are a weakness too. They looked bad Saturday against a bad team. Iowa was fortunate yesterday to have corners that could tackle well. LB's missed a LOT of tackles.
 
Iowa dominated a better team than isu won against. That is all the proof I need. Or should stats be ignored? Isu had 26 yards of total offense against the Hawks. Much different than what occurred in Ames.
You do appreciate that ISU lost to FCS NDSU two weeks before beating Iowa in Kinnick just last year, right?

Your comments make no sense whatsoever relating to the topic.

ISU should be favored, for sure.
 
Agreed. ISU should be a HEAVY favorite. Hate to say it, but they will demolish this flawed Hawkeye team, just as they did UNI. Probably won't even be close.
 
The ISU trolls are out. How many games did the Clones win last year? 2? What about the year before? Did UNI lose any players from their team last year? Don't get cocky because the Clones won 1 game.
 
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The Iowa Hawkeyes will come into Ames with a chip on
their shoulder. Beathard will inspire his team to beat the
Cyclones. Look for some unheralded heroes on offense
for the Hawkeyes. The defense will be led by Ott who gets
3 sacks in the game.
 
Per Vegas Insider, Iowa opened -4 in Vegas and current consensus line including offshore is Iowa -6

ISU should be favored, for sure.

Agreed. ISU should be a HEAVY favorite. Hate to say it, but they will demolish this flawed Hawkeye team, just as they did UNI. Probably won't even be close.

Chance to get rich boys, assuming your are sincere and willing to put money where your posts are rather than anonymous message board whiners.
 
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Would love to see ISU favored for a change. Anybody remember the last time they were? I know they were the favorite in Rosenfels' last year. That was quite a while ago. Anyone remember a more recent year that they were favored?

I'll be surprised if we aren't favored this time around.
 
I read that Ill State lost half their starting line up from last year. They looked pretty bad to me. Maybe a 7-5 FCS team.

Big whoop. ISU spanked UNI 31-7.

There isn't an Iowa WR that would make the ISU two deeps. Iowa's linebackers are a weakness too. They looked bad Saturday against a bad team. Iowa was fortunate yesterday to have corners that could tackle well. LB's missed a LOT of tackles.


Iowa returned 5 starters offensively and 7 on the defensive side of the ball - what is your point? Illinois State was ranked 2nd in FCS polls by people that supposedly know a whole lot more than either you or I do.

How do you think UNI will do compared to say...Illinois State? There is very little about isu (Ames) that can be concluded from simply a score of 31-7. To your statement, "big whoop."

Your opinion about Iowa position players is very biased and lacks logic. isu's offense, collectively, last season was not spectacular. They have talented receivers, but they are not noticeably so much better than many, many others. They have the distinct advantage of playing in a league that features very little defense and still they struggle to put up eye popping stats. As for the LB unit of Iowa, Coach Brock Spack said that Niemann was very impressive. Cole Fisher led all tacklers with 8 tackles including sharing a tackle for loss. Jewell had five stops also contributing with a tackle behind the line of scrimmage. Neimann recorded 2.5 tfl and 1 sack on the afternoon.

Through the first half of play, the Hawks did not yield one net rushing yard to the Redbirds. Illinois State amassed all of 36 total yards of offense through the first thirty minutes of action.

Other than, that, you could say you were spot on in your assessment/analysis.
 
Would love to see ISU favored for a change. Anybody remember the last time they were? I know they were the favorite in Rosenfels' last year. That was quite a while ago. Anyone remember a more recent year that they were favored?

I'll be surprised if we aren't favored this time around.
At least one line favored ISU in '02.
 
The ISU trolls are out. How many games did the Clones win last year? 2? What about the year before? Did UNI lose any players from their team last year? Don't get cocky because the Clones won 1 game.
That 1 game could possibly be isu's total wins or just half of them. The only B12 team I see them beating is Kansas.
 
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I read that Ill State lost half their starting line up from last year. They looked pretty bad to me. Maybe a 7-5 FCS team.

Big whoop. ISU spanked UNI 31-7.

There isn't an Iowa WR that would make the ISU two deeps. Iowa's linebackers are a weakness too. They looked bad Saturday against a bad team. Iowa was fortunate yesterday to have corners that could tackle well. LB's missed a LOT of tackles.

Tevaun smith disagrees. Plus for all the criticism about lack of separation by our wrs ISU had same issue last night too.

Not like ISU looked great last night. Sloppy game until ISU pulled away late in the 3rd qtr.

As for Iowa lbs Neimann got juked on the first drive but please elaborate how the starters played bad. Tough to find criticism when our D absolutely shut them down and say that unit played bad.
 
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The ISU trolls are out. How many games did the Clones win last year? 2? What about the year before? Did UNI lose any players from their team last year? Don't get cocky because the Clones won 1 game.

Yes, two. one of them was against Iowa. the year before? who cares. yes UNI lost players just like everyone else but how in the world can anyone say that Illinois State (a program i had never even heard of before i saw them on this years schedule) be "worse than UNI" what does that poster know about how good UNI is? they don't know how much better or worse they are than UNI after 1 game each. I'm talking about ISU and how they prepare for and play against Iowa. this games mean way more to them than it does the Iowa program and it shows on the field year after year. Kirk doesn't care, he treats it like any other game and that is why he loses to them so much. Hayden knew this game was important but Kirk doesn't get it.

What i'm saying is that more often than not, Kirk loses in Ames. There should be no argument there because it's a fact. ISU should be favored and yes i will be putting $$$ on ISU +5.
 
The Iowa Hawkeyes will come into Ames with a chip on
their shoulder. Beathard will inspire his team to beat the
Cyclones. Look for some unheralded heroes on offense
for the Hawkeyes. The defense will be led by Ott who gets
3 sacks in the game.

I hope you are right but i just don't see it. ISU and their fans are currently preparing for Super Bowl week, otherwise known as "Iowa week." Meanwhile captain Kirk is somewhere chewing gum and muttering about ebbs and flows. i wonder if he even knows Iowa plays ISU next Saturday. might have to wake him from his Sunday afternoon nap to inform him.
 
Iowa returned 5 starters offensively and 7 on the defensive side of the ball - what is your point? Illinois State was ranked 2nd in FCS polls by people that supposedly know a whole lot more than either you or I do.

Are these the same pollsters that look at last years rankings and then make a few adjustments?

Or the same pollsters who put Notre Dame in the top 10 every year for a decade straight and they never finish in the top 25?
 
How do you think UNI will do compared to say...Illinois State? There is very little about isu (Ames) that can be concluded from simply a score of 31-7. To your statement, "big whoop."

Difficult to tell, I did not watch the ISU game, but attended the Iowa/Ill state game. No one on Illinois state stood out to me on either side of the ball, they looked liked an undersized, inexperienced, below average college football team to me from my seat. Maybe Iowa had something to do with it but they looked small and slow all over the field. I didn't take much away from the Iowa game other than Iowa beat a bad team that they should have and did handle easily. Good job. Next week will have some FBS scholarship talent and coaching. ISU's receivers will be much much better than Illinois state's i'll guarantee you that.
 
Your opinion about Iowa position players is very biased and lacks logic. isu's offense, collectively, last season was not spectacular. They have talented receivers, but they are not noticeably so much better than many, many others. They have the distinct advantage of playing in a league that features very little defense and still they struggle to put up eye popping stats. As for the LB unit of Iowa, Coach Brock Spack said that Niemann was very impressive. Cole Fisher led all tacklers with 8 tackles including sharing a tackle for loss. Jewell had five stops also contributing with a tackle behind the line of scrimmage. Neimann recorded 2.5 tfl and 1 sack on the afternoon.

Through the first half of play, the Hawks did not yield one net rushing yard to the Redbirds. Illinois State amassed all of 36 total yards of offense through the first thirty minutes of action.

Credit to the DLine and the corners. They played well yesterday. I was not at all impressed by the linebacker play of Iowa. they seem the weakness of the defense. the Tennessee game comes to mind immediately, being that it was their other most recent performance.
 
Tevaun smith disagrees. Plus for all the criticism about lack of separation by our wrs ISU had same issue last night too.

Not like ISU looked great last night. Sloppy game until ISU pulled away late in the 3rd qtr.

As for Iowa lbs Neimann hot juked on the first drive but please elaborate how the starters played bad. Tough to find criticism when our D absolutely shut them down and say that unit played bad.

Tevaun Smith may be Iowa's best receiver but that really isn't saying much. In my opinion, he would not play for ISU.

3 catches for 24 yards against one of the worst teams we will play all year? not exactly second coming of Desmond Howard.......
 
I just unfollowed phenomenally fran and it feels fantastic! There is no reasoning with that guy. Are ISU receivers as good as Desmond Howard? Pretty sure he thinks so. Blahh
 
I read that Ill State lost half their starting line up from last year. They looked pretty bad to me. Maybe a 7-5 FCS team.

Big whoop. ISU spanked UNI 31-7.

There isn't an Iowa WR that would make the ISU two deeps. Iowa's linebackers are a weakness too. They looked bad Saturday against a bad team. Iowa was fortunate yesterday to have corners that could tackle well. LB's missed a LOT of tackles.


Trust me if the ISU receivers were that great they wouldn't be playing in Ames. Kids go to Ames as a fall back on not getting any decent offers. Always been that way and always will be that way.
 
Roberson is better tHan anyone isu has.Illinois state rb better than iowa state has.
 
iSU will beat iowa, finish sub 0.500, & Idiots will still fill their stands.
 
Take the 'clones and the points. isu will win.
Ferentz has had his ups and downs at Iowa. The series with the 'clones is a big down.
 
Yes, two. one of them was against Iowa. the year before? who cares. yes UNI lost players just like everyone else but how in the world can anyone say that Illinois State (a program i had never even heard of before i saw them on this years schedule) be "worse than UNI" what does that poster know about how good UNI is? they don't know how much better or worse they are than UNI after 1 game each. I'm talking about ISU and how they prepare for and play against Iowa. this games mean way more to them than it does the Iowa program and it shows on the field year after year. Kirk doesn't care, he treats it like any other game and that is why he loses to them so much. Hayden knew this game was important but Kirk doesn't get it.

What i'm saying is that more often than not, Kirk loses in Ames. There should be no argument there because it's a fact. ISU should be favored and yes i will be putting $$$ on ISU +5.

Post a screenshot of your betting slip.
 
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Post a screenshot of your betting slip.

I intend to bet $10 on ISU regardless of what the line is. I learned long ago never to bet on my favorite teams; however, if I bet against them- I'm not mad if I lose. I'll eat a $10 loss for an Iowa win any day of the week :)
 
Yes, two. one of them was against Iowa. the year before? who cares. yes UNI lost players just like everyone else but how in the world can anyone say that Illinois State (a program i had never even heard of before i saw them on this years schedule) be "worse than UNI" what does that poster know about how good UNI is? they don't know how much better or worse they are than UNI after 1 game each. I'm talking about ISU and how they prepare for and play against Iowa. this games mean way more to them than it does the Iowa program and it shows on the field year after year. Kirk doesn't care, he treats it like any other game and that is why he loses to them so much. Hayden knew this game was important but Kirk doesn't get it.

What i'm saying is that more often than not, Kirk loses in Ames. There should be no argument there because it's a fact. ISU should be favored and yes i will be putting $$$ on ISU +5.

isu's QB is nothing to fear and your RB's are young and small. Looks like the isu OL wasn't able to push UNI around so nothing says isu is going to move the ball any better than a the isu we just dominated.

I tell you what if you want to give me the Hawks and points just let me know.
 
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