Then Vance later recounted that Trump was a much better president than he anticipated, so he changed his mind/thoughts on Trump. Aren’t people allowed to change their minds on issues?
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I dont hate him but I dont like him because he is a mealy mouthed chicken shit liar. Calls trump every name in the book and calls trump out for being shitty and then Vance goes and licks trumps boots, shit and all.
What a ****in stooge. Most of these Repubs are sniveling stooges with no backbone.
He doesn’t articulate anything particularly well. He’s completely wrong, like most of the idiots who subscribe to that belief.
Lol right. I suppose he couldn't just come out and say that he adopted the MAGA shtick because it was the easiest way to ascend and obtain political power. That level of inauthenticity is a turn off.
He seems to think the war in Russia is untenable as they don't have the bodies and we don't have thr ability to produce the arms they need to fight. He provides background in that article. What do you see as the long game? Do you think there is a way out of Russia now that doesn't involve Ukraine giving them a piece of land at the end of the day?
Vance then saw that Trump had a successful presidency and changed his mind/stance on issues.A better question is why do you MAGAts like him? He said this about your god:
So, it sounds like some MAGA person pissed in your Cheerios, beat you up, and/or boinked your girlfriend/wife?
It just hit me there are going to be morons who know the name of every victim of a crime by a migrant since 2021 who are just learning of the existence of this sitting senator who's been a press darling for eight years
Probably because he has no backbone, called trump multiple names in the past, and now flip flopped and kissed trump's fat ass to get the VP position. He has 1 year of government experience. Do you think he will uphold the electors if trump loses?
Lol, Vance got to experience a Trump presidency where Trump proved he did not in fact have authoritarian tendencies? Is that the story? Because the more coherent once is Vance embraced Trump's style rather than Trump proved Vance wrong.
No, thankfully I don't have much direct exposure to MAGAs. And you're misunderstanding my feelings. I'm not angry at MAGAs, I have sympathy for them, sure some are truly deplorable, but I would categorize most as vulnerable. Many of them have legitimate grievances and resentments, and accordingly need someone to blame and a group to belong to, of course they are susepectible to the cult of personality.
That's much different than someone like Vance. Who is thoughtful, intelligent, successful and calculating, which is evident from his observations regarding Trump's rise, and also Vance's realization that going full MAGA was the ticket to political ascension in the Trump party.
Not a fan of Vance's amoral political calculations - we need decent conservatives to take the party back from Trump - not opportunists simply in it for power or grift.
Biden referred to black ppl as "super predators", years ago.
Our current VP identifies as black.
People and their opinions change.
Genius pick by Trump.
Trump picks the first millennial to ever be on a Presidential ticket.
That in itself will check the box for all the younger voters who have been screaming for someone young in the race.
Secondly it will cement Ohio which is a huge swing state in the race for the Presidency.
Genius pick on Trumps behalf which was not unexpected.
Trump picks the first millennial to ever be on a Presidential ticket.
That in itself will check the box for all the younger voters who have been screaming for someone young in the race.
Secondly it will cement Ohio which is a huge swing state in the race for the Presidency.
Genius pick on Trumps behalf which was not unexpected.
Not quite sure what you’re getting at with your last sentence as you appear to have some extra word(s) or word(s) out of place in that sentence?
He's an election denier (conspiracy theorist)
Has no backbone (waffler)
Project 2025 supporter
No experience governing
Anti women's reproductive rights
Rubio would have been a much more entertaining choice. Especially considering her gave us, "tiny hands" trump.
Has no backbone (waffler)
Project 2025 supporter
No experience governing
Anti women's reproductive rights
Rubio would have been a much more entertaining choice. Especially considering her gave us, "tiny hands" trump.
Perhaps Vance is like me…I don’t consider myself a MAGA…I’m simply a Republican who thinks that Trump’s policies will be better for this country than four more years of the Biden administration. I’m college educated, retired after a 35-year career in the financial sector, and a family man.
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Because the more coherent one (i.e. story) is Vance embraced Trump's style rather than Trump proved Vance wrong (about Trump being a demagogue).
Hahahahaha so triggered. You live in an alternate reality. Jesus Christ...
Perhaps he is, but his public/political persona is pure MAGA, so you do think it's possible that Vance is simply playing the part and isn't authentically MAGA? Because that's what I've been trying to describe, he's using MAGA for his own political ambitions, to obtain power.
This is a separate topic than Vance, but since you're retired, perhaps you have time. What are the Trump policies that you think will be better for this country? After a 35-year career in the financial sector, do you any thoughts - or even principles - regarding free markets?
Sounds like a real yes man to me! Maybe he actually picked a guy with the education ( the left will appreciate his academic background unless they're being hypocrites) and the ability to stand up to Trump when necessary.
Lol Vance is an absolute joke. No backbone an absolute fraud. Textbook maga
If only he’d written a book where he laid out why his ideology was incompatible with someone like Trump.
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