Man I am bummed but I get where Joe is coming from. To highlight some facts Joe. T did rank 96th nationally at assist rate and 8th at steal rate. He did do some things very, very well and was a tenacious and infectious competitor. He was not a great scorer or shooter but someone I really liked having on the team. How many times did JBo get backdoored against Richmond? Fran wants to play fast but you have to have guys that can go. I also worry that Fran is never going to get the D there. I will be rooting for Joe T wherever he goes.
Joe T gone
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Once again the NCAA tournament has proven that if you want to advance, it requires elite guard play both offensively and defensively and Iowa's roster currently is void of that. After Perkins, I don't see another solid two way player at the guard slot to help make a tournament run past the first weekend.
Joe was also the only player with a body that looked like it had seen a weight room.
Joe T ceiling was an average guard in the big 10 at best. He has been below average thus far. If you can’t see this you are blind.
Makes me wonder what the heck the other 8 teams that consistently finish below Iowa are doing then?
Makes me wonder what the heck the programs who win more than one game in the tourney are doing.
It showed that against teams with non-athletic guards, JBo wasn't enough of a defensive liability to offset what he brought offensively.
When we played teams with athletic guards, JBo was a net negative because he got exposed on defense and couldn't get open to produce offense.
Unfortunately, Fran couldn't figure that out and Iowa's performance suffered/Joe T transferred.
Joe collected those numbers in just 17 minutes per game. He led the team on a per 40 basis in assists and steals and it wasn't close. Had he played 30+ he likely would have been top 10 in the nation in assists and steals per game.
I'll never forget his stripping the ball out of 6'10"Williams' hands under the Purdue basket during the BIG Championship game.
I don't know how/where that's calculated. Joe averaged 3.2 assists per game in 17.4 minutes. Double his minutes and that works out to 6.4. Number 10 nationally was 5.8.
Like many, not surprised. I can see why he would transfer, I think he can find a similar place that gives him more minutes and utilizes his talent better.
Not happy about this. He was a great teammate and a great hawk. He didn't receive a fair shot that is for sure but he took it very well. I don't blame him, best of luck Joe T and thanks for being a hawk.
Always liked joe. Probably cause he was always hustling and showed some grit. Just wish the offense would have come together a little better. Hope he tears it up wherever he lands.
I’m trying to figure out why people think JT was good. He made 4 to 5 terrible passes or dribbled the ball off his leg/foot a game.
As big of a douch as he is, Fran should get involved in the Curbelo recruitment. I just don’t know if he can get away with 5 travels a game like he did at Illinois if he came to Iowa.
Played great defense. Made several great assists per game. Got us out in transition where the team excelled. Made free throws. Played with toughness that seemed to be contagious and helped the team.
He didn't have 4 or 5 turnovers per game...
Good defender, inconsistent scorer and shooter, and would play out of control at times .
He would have been better served toughing it out and accepting his role. He won’t find the sledding much easier anywhere of consequence.
He would have been better served toughing it out and accepting his role. He won’t find the sledding much easier anywhere of consequence.
This is silly. Fran told Joe that Bowen is the starting pg next year? Not a chance. $20 says so.
He was the most disruptive defensive perimeter defender that I can recall watching at Iowa. He will be missed. Unfortunately, he played for a coach that does not put a premium on defense, which limit his opportunity here.
Not quite sure why anyone haha'd this... This is the most accurate post on this board I have seen in awhile.
Maybe with a bigger role next year Ahron will rise to the occasion
I could see Connor moving back to PG like you said but you really need him at the 3 or 4 for depth. I don’t think Fran promises starting spots but I’m sure he can be honest with Joe about his chances of starting. Did you want Joe T playing 30 minutes? He’s good in bursts but not the guy you want playing big minutes.
Conner is a point forward and will compelment the PG if he comes back
I would have been happy with Joe playing 30 next year. He was a difference maker on defense and the best assist pg on the team. Fran will start Cmac at PG because that's his best position, he wants him to play significant minutes, and Fran trusts him to run things over everyone else. There aren't any other positions that fit those characteristics.
Haven’t read through this thread, but this is reason for optimism for me for a couple of reasons
1) it could mean that Dasonte Bowen is the truth, which I’ve long suspected. He is Fran’s handpicked point guard, after all
2) if Fran is not confident in Dasonte, Iowa now has a gaping hole at the point guard position to where we could easily attract a needle-moving point guard in the transfer portal
3) I am a huge Toussaint fan. I was one of his biggest supporters all season. That said, he is undersized, not a scoring threat, and his on-ball defense is not great. Ulis is a substantially better on-ball defender, rebounder, and more capable of running Fran’s offense without killing flow/disruption. The Richmond point guard toasted Bohannon and Toussaint alike in the first round of the tournament. He wasn’t going to be a starter on a Sweet 16 team. Now the door is open for somebody who can be
I love everything that Joe brought to this team and program, but our backcourt will be more versatile next year without him
1) it could mean that Dasonte Bowen is the truth, which I’ve long suspected. He is Fran’s handpicked point guard, after all
2) if Fran is not confident in Dasonte, Iowa now has a gaping hole at the point guard position to where we could easily attract a needle-moving point guard in the transfer portal
3) I am a huge Toussaint fan. I was one of his biggest supporters all season. That said, he is undersized, not a scoring threat, and his on-ball defense is not great. Ulis is a substantially better on-ball defender, rebounder, and more capable of running Fran’s offense without killing flow/disruption. The Richmond point guard toasted Bohannon and Toussaint alike in the first round of the tournament. He wasn’t going to be a starter on a Sweet 16 team. Now the door is open for somebody who can be
I love everything that Joe brought to this team and program, but our backcourt will be more versatile next year without him
I like Joe but he tried to always play hero ball. Sometimes it worked out for him and other times he was out of control and didn’t know how to let the game come up him.
With that said, Saint Peter’s paging Joe T, Saint Peter’s paging Joe T.
Good luck Joe. Wish you the best and hope you do well.
With that said, Saint Peter’s paging Joe T, Saint Peter’s paging Joe T.
Good luck Joe. Wish you the best and hope you do well.
Senior Day is always such a great day. It makes me sad that Iowa fans won't get to share that moment with a guy like Joe who put so much work in. Best of luck going forward.
Joe's post seems pretty blunt in stating this was about PT. Interesting in the sense because he would be expected to start based on being a 4 year guy. Fran is honest with his players, so he must've told Joe that the bench is likely. Likely a sign that they're projecting Bowen to start. I'm the president of the Ahron Ulis fan club though so I won't dismiss him. Didn't have the year I was hoping from him and his end product was lacking. But haven't been dissuaded in thinking he has talent.
There will be no one on next year's roster below 6'3" which could be good or bad. Good in the sense that you have great length on the perimeter to contest shots. It will be interesting to see if quick PG's in the 6'0"-range give Iowa troubles.
Joe's post seems pretty blunt in stating this was about PT. Interesting in the sense because he would be expected to start based on being a 4 year guy. Fran is honest with his players, so he must've told Joe that the bench is likely. Likely a sign that they're projecting Bowen to start. I'm the president of the Ahron Ulis fan club though so I won't dismiss him. Didn't have the year I was hoping from him and his end product was lacking. But haven't been dissuaded in thinking he has talent.
There will be no one on next year's roster below 6'3" which could be good or bad. Good in the sense that you have great length on the perimeter to contest shots. It will be interesting to see if quick PG's in the 6'0"-range give Iowa troubles.
BS. He was given every opportunity and couldn't play under control. He had a short leash, because he needed a short leash.
I like the guy, but he is what he is.
Not sure it is good for all players. It seems like there is a fairly high percentage that don't get offers "comparable" to the school they are leaving.
Personally I'm sorry to see JT leave and hope he's able to find a place where he can excel.
You had my hopes up Iowa had landed the progeny of “Downtown” Freddie Brown, and I was just late to the party.
Ryan Bowen as a consolation prize instead!
Loved Joe's attitude and defensive play, but on offense he looked like he was playing on skates half the time. After seeing the guards in the tourney (including those for smaller schools like Richmond and St Peters), we have to be better at PG. Hoping Bowen is a move in that direction, but also need to go after one more in portal.
