Right but again that bonus is something almost no other manufacturer offers these days.
It's great if you have a lot of money. That's not the big picture issue though.
The only reason they are getting that signing bonus is because they will miss their profit sharing they earned throughout the year. This will just even out what they already earned
Wait...wut? Deere workers get profit sharing now?
What a perfect example of just how unbelievably dumb we’ve become. Like, completely irrationally ridiculously dumb.I can't speak for other locations, but the vast majority of the blue collar guys and gals here in the quads are big time Trumpers.
True story -- a photog friend of mine was shooting pics at one of the strike locations and one of Bernie Sanders' field operatives stopped by with about a half-dozen hot pizzas for them. They were marginally polite to him and thanked him, but after he left - in front of my photog friend and a reporter - they started mocking him for being a "commie" and a "fag". The reporter then asked if anyone affiliated with Trump's Iowa org had offered any solidarity or help and they got super pissed and SWORE they KNEW Trump was working behind the scenes to help them
American politics is beyond broken and people are idiots.
It’s crazy that he even made such an argument. Makes you wonder where he heard it, like who’s selling that as a good argument, and who’s buying it. Americans, of course. Americans.
Shit like this is honestly why I have trouble having sympathy for them. Plus, JD is actually a quality employer compared to most manufacturers.I can't speak for other locations, but the vast majority of the blue collar guys and gals here in the quads are big time Trumpers.
True story -- a photog friend of mine was shooting pics at one of the strike locations and one of Bernie Sanders' field operatives stopped by with about a half-dozen hot pizzas for them. They were marginally polite to him and thanked him, but after he left - in front of my photog friend and a reporter - they started mocking him for being a "commie" and a "fag". The reporter then asked if anyone affiliated with Trump's Iowa org had offered any solidarity or help and they got super pissed and SWORE they KNEW Trump was working behind the scenes to help them
American politics is beyond broken and people are idiots.
Think what you want, but you've shown without doubt you do not nor do you have any sense of CEO job duties.
Sure, bud. Look, I’m sorry we basically speak two different intellectual languages. The difference is that I don’t have self-esteem issues so I don’t presume you have zero understanding of general duties of your average CEO. I just don’t think you’re grasping my metaphor, and that’s fine. I think you don’t want to agree with me on any level, because to do so harms your sense of identity. I’m not to be agreed with. So the metaphor is rejected and that’s that. And to rationalize this, I’m also to be positioned as not having any idea what a CEO does—which is weird because it’s not like some Wizard of Oz mystery.
Dont over think it, I glean no identity from the positions of others - but that doesn't mean im not going to point out faulty logic when I see it.
No it is the best for everyone it just isn't cheap because modern heathcare isn't cheap. Like everything else you get what you pay for. You want cheap move to Venezuela.
Aspects of a system can be “good” while the system writ large be not so good. Iowa football has a record of producing good tight ends. This doesn’t necessarily mean that Iowa football produces good offense.
Except it’s not faulty. You just misinterpreted things outta the gate and now you can’t bear to allow space for mutual understanding. That’s why you need to assert that I have no idea what a CEO does. Which is a really weird idea, given, you know, that it’s not some great mystery.
So in your world, the person who needs very expensive cancer treatments that they can't afford should either die or "move to Venezuela"? Another demonstration that you are deplorable.
Of course. The world is flat to some. You have the right to be wrong. And you exercise that right a lot.
Ah, so now you’re recognizing your own subjectivity in your response.
I know somebody that is salary and now working in the plant during the strike. Rumor is the union will vote on same proposal again. But even my source said that is just a rumor.
JD is by far offering the best package of any manufacturer in these cites. For that matter many college educated workers would love an $8,500 bonus. Healthcare with zero premiums and zero deductibles, a 10% raise, more bonuses and raises in future and $25,000 or $50,000 when they retire. Oh yes and a 6% 401(k) match.
Of course it's subjective - were you of the belief I'm speaking absolutely for everyone?
And so did 45% of the union members.
I think they had a lot of support when they went on strike. Now that has dwindled drastically. I supported them initially but not now.
I agree it seems that way. And if it is, Deere will replace them or they’ll fold and agree to the terms offered.
The traditional conservative aversion to unions, from my understanding, isn't against the free market determining wages - quite the opposite. The idea of the union is viewed as an unnatural mechanism that covers for the lowest denominator while holding back the top talent. Removing the meritocracy aspect in a sense.
There is a comparison. That’s how you did the “quantifying” you just did right there. There’s no, say it with me, equivalence. You’re making it abundantly clear that you, indeed, struggle with what a comparison actually is, why it is useful, and you also struggle with what a metaphor is, and why it can be useful.
What vested interest would anyone not working there have in the labor getting more money?
Have at it, start at square one, but understand, im in no way trying to say (or say you said) there's equivilence as that would be more asinine than a comparison.
A high tide raises all ships to your first question.
1. Tell me you're a republican without telling me you're a republican. My interest is that wages going up helps those 10k people and their families.
Dude, there is nothing asinine, inherently, about ANY comparison. That is, as long as you don’t conflate comparison with some notion of implied equivalence. Which is what I think you’re, like many these days, doing.
