The vast majority of fans understand this and it's why BF is often compared to his predecessors. He's been far worse than both KOK and Davis were, and that is saying a lot.
Josh Gattis new OC??
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This is almost becoming like a woman who is constantly in bad relationships dating one asshole after another, but she can't help it because they all say the right things at the bars......................
Their success hinges on whether their boss is willing to give them an opportunity to run the offense. If we get a new OC and the offense remains as stale as it has, who is to blame? I think we know that answer!
Well...lots of wishful thinking going on here and that's cool but...
REALITY: it won't matter who the OC is or who is at WR or at QB if we can't get more talent on the line. It's not just that these guys haven't developed it's that they can't develop because they don't have the physical ability to play at the level needed. The recruiting misses and injury losses have left the cupboard completely bare. 3 or 4 new faces needed immediately on the oline and then maybe things look a little better with some of the other new toys. Portal or JC help needed now.
REALITY: it won't matter who the OC is or who is at WR or at QB if we can't get more talent on the line. It's not just that these guys haven't developed it's that they can't develop because they don't have the physical ability to play at the level needed. The recruiting misses and injury losses have left the cupboard completely bare. 3 or 4 new faces needed immediately on the oline and then maybe things look a little better with some of the other new toys. Portal or JC help needed now.
You can spin it however you like, the facts don't lie. The Iowa O has had 3 good years and they were under KOK. The were 2002, 2005 and 2006 and ranked 13, 22 and 27 respectfully. The balance of the years are an average O rating of 90th in the nation. Under BF, his O rating has an average of 104 with 88th being the best.
He has failed and an OC and frankly KF has failed to field an average offense during his entire tenure. If he had placed a bit more emphasis on offensive creativity and production, lord knows where this team could have gone given some the Parker defenses that have hit the field.
As I've posted before, I don't like the culture of the offensive side of the ball. We can debate play calls as winter long, but an OC is much more than a playcaller. I've never been a fan of Brian's recruiting, player development or culture.
I really don't think Phil is super innovative on the defensive side of the ball, but that side plays with a fire that the offense just doesn't.
I really don't think Phil is super innovative on the defensive side of the ball, but that side plays with a fire that the offense just doesn't.
Well most Michigan posts and stories comment on how McNamara is a leader and sets the tone for the culture.
And my GAWD man an Iowa fan in Ames. How do you live??????????????????????????
Staying out of the way and letting them operate the way they need to.
I only lived there for 4 years while my wife was in Vet School. And Iowa lost to ISU in FB all four years. I am in Omaha now and this week hasn't been as bad as I thought it would be. I think Husker fans know they got lucky this year.
This is bullshit. The offensive Coordinator calls the ****ing plays not Kirk Ferentz. I think Kirk gives more responsibility to his coordinators than what people think
So why have the offenses of KOK, Davis, and BF been so much alike in overall scheme and approach?
KF is the common denominator. It seems to me KoK had more freedom than the rest
Then he is horrible at hiring OC's.
I disagree, the offense looks the same no matter the OC.
That points to one person.
He is horrible at hiring OC’s, just like he is horrible at evaluating the qb’s in Iowa’s system over the years.
To be fair it was his first year in a way different environment. I’m not gonna read too much into that especially given the fact he doesn’t want to be there. Saban liked him it appears. He can recruit at least. BF can’t call an offense or recruit.
My guess is that every OC under KF has to operate with a series of standing orders... play field position, limit the number of high-risk/high-reward plays, avoid turnovers at all costs.
Player personnel. They were all a balanced offense 50/50 run/pass. Do you think they have enough time on the sidelines to run a play through KF before the play clock runs out?
I don't think they're running plays by KF prior to the call. But I think KF does maintain a good bit of control over what options they have to draw from.
I do think there are only so many that KF approves. Or the style of play the qb has driven into his head
If Brian is NOT the OC going forward, I know this. Whoever gets the job will be popular until Iowa takes the field, then like every OC that Kirk has had, the fans will hate him and thinks he sucks. LOL
Wrong Bill Snyder was the best O C Iowa ever had. His offenses were fun to watch.
His info is not insider. He will disappear from the board and assume a new screen name when it is shown that he is full of it.
That, and I am a very happy person!
Be honest, were you laughing when you typed this?
He doesn't tell Pil Parker what run, and he doesn't tell the offensive coordinator what to run. I think you'd be surprised. I'm sure they all go over game planning together in meetings. But Kirk is not the one calling the plays. I'm sure it's the style of offense Kirk want's but he doesn't call the plays. Think of the many end arounds on 3rd and one and 4th and short that lost yardage. Do you think Kirk called those plays?
So many fans convinced that KF controls the offense because it sucks, and not the defense because it's good. This is just plain apathy or hate toward KF.
KF is bad at hiring OC's. I believe KF values Trust over almost everything else, which is why he sticks with coaches and sticks with QB's.
Letting BF off the hook because KF "handcuffs" him is nonsense. There is absolutely nothing about KF's system that means you can do any better than 88th in the country.
KF is bad at hiring OC's. I believe KF values Trust over almost everything else, which is why he sticks with coaches and sticks with QB's.
Letting BF off the hook because KF "handcuffs" him is nonsense. There is absolutely nothing about KF's system that means you can do any better than 88th in the country.
I misread your original post. You are correct I don’t think KF calls the plays. I think he controls the philosophy as most HC’s do.
What is interesting is he wants an offense that does what his defense works hard to make the opposing offense do.
He was at Penn State before Michigan and Miami. Not the worst and yet nothing special. If anything he has recruiting abilities in the south (Florida).
How do you think Phil Parker’s body language is on the sideline??? Lol!
Bend but don’t break defense is all Kirk too. If a team is gonna score it won’t because they give up a big play. It will be because the opposing offense executed flawlessly for 12 plays or so down a long field. Wonder where that stat exists. Of our opposing offense TDs how many plays did it take them on average to score the TD. Assume Iowa makes teams work for them more so than most any other team.
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You watch a team like Michigan, their O is not THAT innovative. Bring in 3 TE's and run left? So much is about execution (and some creativity for sure) and talent/development. Michigan's #2 RB is elite and made one guy miss....to the house.
Our talent and execution on Offense used to be good to even very good. I challenge folks to even go back to Nate Stanley years (which is not that long ago) and the guy could sling it. Plenty of play action passes ISM. Lots of medium balls to Hock, etc. O Line was pretty good.
The combination of Petras + Poor O Line = disaster. Any mobility at all could have squeezed out a few more wins. Add on that we did not have Big Catch Radius or Lightning Fast WR's and its no wonder the years we have had recently.
I like Brian, but Kirk put him in over his head. I would be fine with Brian staying, but as a position coach like TE or OL, both I think he did a good job at. NOT QB coach though. LOL Maybe Brian can be elevated to equipment manager,
I have been a member since the 90's but lost my password and everything else when my phone was hacked. Im not going anywhere.
And I'm not an insider. I just know someone who is. I also no someone in the uni sports program. I only gave some info so fans like me can have a little hope for next year and a lot for the year after
