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Josh O./Ulis to the portal

Ever heard of usage rate? Brauns played on a perimeter oriented team. Rebraca in his final year at ND played 32 minutes a game with almost 30% usage rate. Brauns played 20 mins a game with a 16% usage rate. Player efficiency ratings are very similar, Rebraca is a bit better rebounder and Brauns a better shot blocker.
 
The Josh devotees are like the weird Padilla groupies. One bright shining moment translates, through contrariness not cogency, into an attack, direct or implied, on the coaches for just not giving guys who typically did little of anything (Josh) to actual negative (Padilla) more time to show they weren't really as good as their Blind Man in the Bleachers moment.

 
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The Josh devotees are like the weird Padilla groupies. One bright shining moment translates, through contrariness not cogency, into an attack, direct or implied, on the coaches for just not giving guys who typically did little of anything (Josh) to actual negative (Padilla) more time to show they weren't really as good as their Blind Man in the Bleachers moment.

Padilla’s theme song by DJ Khaled, “All I Do is Win.” Guy never lost a game he started. Stats don’t matter according to Kirk, just how the team does. You don’t agree with Kirk?!?
 
The Josh devotees are like the weird Padilla groupies. One bright shining moment translates, through contrariness not cogency, into an attack, direct or implied, on the coaches for just not giving guys who typically did little of anything (Josh) to actual negative (Padilla) more time to show they weren't really as good as their Blind Man in the Bleachers moment.


I'm going to quite this once we have stats next year for Padilla and Josh O. I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong.
 
The 30 minutes is just a number. The real issue was playing Bohannon over him and not trusting Joe T. Joe T finished games with WV this year and he didn't do that with Fran. Fran's big mistake was letting Bohannon come back last year and proceeding to play him over Joe T. Fran had a defensive team last year that he didn't know how to coach properly. I really do believe if Joe T plays the second half against Richmond that Iowa wins that game. That decision was honestly when I lost all hope that Fran can do anything in the tournament.

Glad Ulis is gone. Josh I'm indifferent on because he didn't play. Fran should easily upgrade from Ulis with more Bowen playtime as a bare minimum. Transfer would be better but I won't hold my breath.
Great post and spot on.
 
Exactly right. This could be a net positive depending on what exactly Fran does in the portal...So far if Braun does come to Iowa thats a net gain over Josh contribution the last two years...

Hard to contribute when you’ve been on the court for 72 minutes all year. Hope he gets a shot someplace.

As far as Braun is concerned, we’ll see. Looks decent enough in the “ Highlight” video. Those have been proven not so reliable in the past when the season starts.
 
The 30 minutes is just a number. The real issue was playing Bohannon over him and not trusting Joe T. Joe T finished games with WV this year and he didn't do that with Fran. Fran's big mistake was letting Bohannon come back last year and proceeding to play him over Joe T. Fran had a defensive team last year that he didn't know how to coach properly. I really do believe if Joe T plays the second half against Richmond that Iowa wins that game. That decision was honestly when I lost all hope that Fran can do anything in the tournament.

Glad Ulis is gone. Josh I'm indifferent on because he didn't play. Fran should easily upgrade from Ulis with more Bowen playtime as a bare minimum. Transfer would be better but I won't hold my breath.
Yea. I agree. If you are going to start Bohannon or Connor at guard, then you need to play someone like Joe T at another guard spot. When you start Bohannon and Connor together you get two guys that can’t defend and can’t create and aren’t athletic and only one could shoot. Really hurt us multiple times in the tournament.
 
I'm pumped to see Bowen after a year of strength training, film, and additional experience (summer trip this year). High ceiling in my opinion.
Bowen showed he has all the physical tools. It was the mental errors and below average basketball IQ that cost him playing time. He took bad shots and didn’t understand defensive rotations. Fortunately, this can be coached.
 
I actually really like the talent and versatility of next years freshman and sophomore guards.

I think its Frans best group easily.
Him and Nimmers in the game together would be some nice perimeter quickness now the qestion is can Fran teach them how to play D and let them grow through some mistakes.
 
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Rebraca avg 14 and 17pts his 2 previous seasons before Iowa
braun best yr is 7 pts
ogundle > braun
Points is not the end all stat, maybe Braun is a good defender??? He had his fair shre of blocked shots as he did have a 7 shot block game.
 
Because you play to win now. Just like we wasted some of Keegan and Kris’s talent playing behind our coach’s offspring. How many back end years are we going to get for Keegan and Kris?!?

Typically walkons dont become first round picks. It benefits the kid.
 
Kinda what I figured but has to make you wonder why Bowen didn't get more minutes down the stretch
It’s a delicate balance playing to win for this year vs. the next. My guess is that Fran gave him an honest assessment of where he saw him next year. I wish the best for Ulis, a good hawk.
 
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What? Are you kidding? I’d disagree. I liked Joe Toussaint but there’s no empirical evidence to suggest he is better than Ulis or Bowen. I’ll trade Bowen for Joe every day of the week.
No. I'm not kidding. Bowen might end up being a very good player, but we're talking about this past year. Bowen was bad. I could supply you with plenty of evidence to support that but you can find it on your own I'm sure.

How about this. Ulis and Bowen had some of the lowest conference PER's in Fran's tenure. Bowens was almost negative. They were both bad. Joe was better. Period.
 
No. I'm not kidding. Bowen might end up being a very good player, but we're talking about this past year. Bowen was bad. I could supply you with plenty of evidence to support that but you can find it on your own I'm sure.
But we’re talking about Toussaint, not Bowen, who has maxed out as a very mediocre guard. Bowen was up and down. Had a good last game, but not much body of work. His ceiling is much higher than Toussaint.
 
Ever heard of usage rate? Brauns played on a perimeter oriented team. Rebraca in his final year at ND played 32 minutes a game with almost 30% usage rate. Brauns played 20 mins a game with a 16% usage rate. Player efficiency ratings are very similar, Rebraca is a bit better rebounder and Brauns a better shot blocker.
We won't have any idea what Brauns is good at until he plays against B1G competition.
 
But we’re talking about Toussaint, not Bowen, who has maxed out as a very mediocre guard. Bowen was up and down. Had a good last game, but not much body of work. His ceiling is much higher than Toussaint.
No. I was talking about this year. Not the future. Joe was simply better than either one. End of story.
 
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The 30 minutes is just a number. The real issue was playing Bohannon over Joe T and not trusting Joe T. Joe T finished games with WV this year and he didn't do that with Fran. Fran's big mistake was letting Bohannon come back last year and proceeding to play him over Joe T. Fran had a defensive team last year that he didn't know how to coach properly. I really do believe if Joe T plays the second half against Richmond that Iowa wins that game. That decision was honestly when I lost all hope that Fran can do anything in the tournament.

Glad Ulis is gone. Josh I'm indifferent on because he didn't play. Fran should easily upgrade from Ulis with more Bowen playtime as a bare minimum. Transfer would be better but I won't hold my breath.

Great post and spot on.


...we wasted some of Keegan and Kris’s talent playing behind our coach’s offspring. How many back end years are we going to get for Keegan and Kris?!?


Yea. I agree. If you are going to start Bohannon or Connor at guard, then you need to play someone like Joe T at another guard spot. When you start Bohannon and Connor together you get two guys that can’t defend and can’t create and aren’t athletic and only one could shoot. Really hurt us multiple times in the tournament.


Wrong, @kzoohawk80 . 30 minutes/game was not "just" a number. Joe wanted 30 minutes/game and Fran would not guarantee that so Joe moved on. Interesting that you think that Fran should have guaranteed Joe those minutes and that @Bulldogs1974 and @Steamboat529529 agree with you.

@kzoohawk80 , you then said "the real issue was playing Bohannon over Joe T." And, again, @Bulldogs1974 and @Steamboat529529 agreed with you. Interesting. Let's look at the facts, shall we? When Fran moved JBo back to starting PG, Tony to the starting shooting guard and Joe T to the bench, there was a lot of complaining on here. Iowa's overall record before these moves was 14-7. But those moves had a huge impact. Iowa was 12-2 over it's last 14 games heading into the NCAA Tournament so I think it's pretty clear Fran was pushing the right buttons heading into the NCAA Tournament.

8-2 -- last 10 games of the 2021-2022 Regular Season
4-0 -- in the B1G Tournament, resulting in a B1G Tournament Championship

And @Steamboat529529 said "we wasted some of Keegan and Kris’s talent playing behind our coach’s offspring." Well, Iowa would not have not been in the Richmond game if not for PMac, the coach's offspring. PMac was 4-7 from 3 and was the 2nd leading scorer in that game (18 points). The rest of the team was 2-22 (9%) from 3. Kris and Keegan were a combined 0-8 from 3.


Versus Richmond:


2 Pt..3 Pt..Total

FG.....FG....FG....FTs...Pts...Reb...TO's...Min
8-12...0-3....8-15...5-5......21.......9........2.....38.....Keegan
3-10...4-7....7-17....0-0.....18......2........0......25.....PMac
1-1......0-5.....1-6.....1-2.......3.......5........0......16......Kris
0-1.....2-7.....2-8....0-0......6.......2.........1......33.....JBo
2-3.....0-2.....2-5....2-3.......6.......1.........3......19......Tony
2-5....0-0.....2-5.....1-2.......5......9.........0......25.....Filip
1-2.....0-3.....1-5.....0-0......2......3.........0........8.....Payton
1-3....0-0.....1-3.....0-0......2.......1..........1.......13.....JoeT
0-0...0-2....0-2.....0-0......0......3.........2......23......Connor
 
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This seems like a huge stretch seeing as how he hasn't even earned a scholarship yet.
And yet it is. Don't forget that I've been wanting an explosive finisher that is a really good athlete and excellent shooter. He'll compliment Perkins very well. I'm also a bit enthusiastic about all things Hawkeyes too. As long as Nimmers can defend as well as uhlis we are good. Also Fran has approached a couple of guards in the portal already. Arizonas point led the pac 12 in assists and just entered the portal. Would be a great get but definitely need a post player more.
 
And yet it is. Don't forget that I've been wanting an explosive finisher that is a really good athlete and excellent shooter. He'll compliment Perkins very well. I'm also a bit enthusiastic about all things Hawkeyes too. As long as Nimmers can defend as well as uhlis we are good. Also Fran has approached a couple of guards in the portal already. Arizonas point led the pac 12 in assists and just entered the portal. Would be a great get but definitely need a post player more.
Oh, YOU'VE been wanting an explosive finisher. How could I forget. I'm sure Fran is on board then. 🙃
 
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Oh, YOU'VE been wanting an explosive finisher. How could I forget. I'm sure Fran is on board then. 🙃
As much as i liked uhlis he wasn't much of a finisher and definitely couldn't throw it down like Nimmers. Also i am a bit on the gung ho bright side of all things Hawkeye. Lol. You may have noticed when i predicted an elite 8 run this year. Wiffed pretty bad on that. Oh, and Nimmers can shoot. That's a big upgrade.
 
As much as i liked uhlis he wasn't much of a finisher and definitely couldn't throw it down like Nimmers. Also i am a bit on the gung ho bright side of all things Hawkeye. Lol. You may have noticed when i predicted an elite 8 run this year. Wiffed pretty bad on that.
Yeah. We were all a little worried about you after hearing that prediction.
 
Interesting. Let's look at the facts, shall we? When Fran moved JBo back to starting PG, Tony to the starting shooting guard and Joe T to the bench, there was a lot of complaining on here. But that move had a huge impact. Iowa was 12-2 over it's last 14 games heading into the NCAA Tournament so I think it's pretty clear Fran was pushing the right buttons heading into the NCAA Tournament.

8-2 -- last 10 games of the 2021-2022 Regular Season
4-0 -- in the B1G Tournament, resulting in a B1G Tournament Championship
Playing Joe T and J Bo together was horrible coaching. Keegan carried the team last year. Perkins went off when he became a starter and played extremely well with Joe T during that time. I don't see where swapping Joe T minutes for J Bo minutes last year changes anything. Joe T D was a major factor in winning the Big Ten tournament. Which resulted in 31 minutes for J Bo against Richmond and 13 for Joe T. Oh and who made all Richmond's clutch shots down the stretch against J Bo defense? That's right their star pg that J Bo couldn't guard. Would've been nice if Iowa had a good ball defender against pg's in that game. Last years team with the right coach could have been special in the tournament because they could win with defense.

Man Franisdaman look at what you made me do. Go on a rant about last year's team. Sorry about that. I do appreciate that you actually argue points and not narratives on here even though my opinion of Fran differs from you. Your one of the few posters I respect that I pretty much disagree with on here. You actually treat this forum like a place that's ok to have different opinions on.
 
As much as i liked uhlis he wasn't much of a finisher and definitely couldn't throw it down like Nimmers. Also i am a bit on the gung ho bright side of all things Hawkeye. Lol. You may have noticed when i predicted an elite 8 run this year. Wiffed pretty bad on that. Oh, and Nimmers can shoot. That's a big upgrade.
If you like him so much, please just spell his name correctly one time.
 
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Perkins went off when he became a starter



Agreed. A great move by Fran.



I don't see where swapping Joe T minutes for J Bo minutes last year changes anything.


Again, when JBo was moved to the starting line up and Joe was benched, Iowa went 12-2 entering the NCAA Tournament.

And who hit all of those big shots vs IU in the B1G Tournament? That's right; JBo did. You said benching Joe T and starting JBo didn't change anything; I say it gave us a B1G Tournament Championship.



Oh and who made all Richmond's clutch shots down the stretch against J Bo defense? That's right their star pg that J Bo couldn't guard.

Defense was not the issue vs Richmond. Iowa held them to 67 points, where Richmond shot just 42% overall and just 29% from 3.
 
Agreed. A great move by Fran.






Again, when JBo was moved to the starting line up and Joe was benched, Iowa went 12-2 entering the NCAA Tournament.

And who hit all of those big shots vs IU in the B1G Tournament? That's right; JBo did. You said benching Joe T and starting JBo didn't change anything; I say it gave us a B1G Tournament Championship.





Defense was not the issue vs Richmond. Iowa held them to 67 points, where Richmond shot just 42% overall and just 29% from 3.
I thought the Murray twins were horrible in the Richmond game. That could have been the difference in that game right there.
 
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