JRob

[Azchief32]

A letter to fans from JRob's daughter...guess he might be getting the boot next week and she wants an email campaign on behalf of JRob. Here is the link if you can get on their site:

http://forum.theguillotine.com/topic/9294862/2/

 

[el dub]

Where is LEII when we need him?

 

[whejoe]

Thanks for the link. I'm definitely emailing the regents.

 

[WildTurk]

If JROB is gone does that mean Stevenson comes to Iowa City?!

 

[grappler6]

If JROB is gone does that mean Stevenson comes to Iowa City?!

No. And who the hell is Stevenson?

 

[grappler6]

Friends, Family, Supporters of J Robinson & Minnesota Wrestling,

A lot of you have asked how you can help or what you can do to show support for my dad and his coaching career at the University.

It is a hard thing to ask for help, but if you wouldn't mind taking a few minutes out of your day I would be grateful beyond words. The situation he has been put in, and the manner in which the University is handling it and treating him is unfair and misguided to say the least. The media ran away with a story with the intent of getting some good headlines - but reported with missing facts, and did not dig very deep. I can tell you that the emotional, mental, physical, weary time suck and financial toll this has taken on my family has been more than I will ever be able to describe. My dad is the best man, dad, and coach I know. He is a man of principle and honor. He is a man who has spent his entire life helping young men better themselves both on and off the wrestling mat.

Please read this and help us by emailing your support to the regents listed below. Pass this along to whomever, and thank you in advance.

#reinstatejrob
#jcwbesq

Firing of Coach J Robinson is likely to occur next week. No official reason has ever been given as to why Coach J Robinson was suspended. U of M is in the process of manufacturing reasons to justify their actions of firing Coach J Robinson.

If you are confused as to how this situation is being handled, or want to show your support for J, please contact the University of Minnesota Board of Regents TODAY.

The Board of Regents is the governing body of the university, ultimately every staff member answers to them.

• Why has the U of M not disclosed what they knew when?
• How is a 30 year honored and respected coach thrown to the wolves with virtually no support from the university?
• How is an anonymous tip, submitted via a website, grounds for suspension?

BOARD OF REGENTS

Dean Johnson, Chair
djohns@umn.edu

David McMillan
dmcmillan@umn.edu

Thomas Anderson
tja@umn.edu

Richard Beeson
rbeeson@umn.edu

Laura Brod
lbrod@umn.edu

Abdul Omari
omari002@umn.edu

Linda Cohen
lacohen@umn.edu

Thomas Devine
twdevine@umn.edu

Michael Hsu
hsu@umn.edu

Peggy Lucas
lucas070@umn.edu

Darrin Rosha
drosha@umn.edu

Patricia Simmons
simmons@umn.edu

Brian Steeves, Executive Director
stee0168@umn.edu

 

[championhawk]

I wouldn't mind JRob staying at Minn for another 20 years.

 

[OL119]

While this is a sad way for someone who has done so much for the program, and wrestling as a whole to go, he already had one foot out the door before this incident.

In the Flo documentary "Keepers of the Flame" his interactions while "showing technique" in the wrestling room had a very awkward and staged feel to it. That and the fact that the technique he could just barely physically show was stuff that most semi advanced youth wrestlers already know. You could tell he hadn't been in that room showing technique for a long time.

It will be interesting to see how bad the fallout for the program will be. This may be something they never recover from. What coach would want to take over after watching this situation unfold?

 

[wasdt21]

she calls out the other side and plays the sympathy card, but doesn't give any facts about how he handled this situation which is what would inspire me to defend him if he did the right things.

 

[icu81222]

How can a guy like him have financial struggles? Living outside his means?

 

[Pennstate1985]

How can a guy like him have financial struggles? Living outside his means?

Many do. I once knew a couple that made $270k/year with lots in the bank and a McMansion, and three years later they were bankrupt in an apartment with roommates. The spending they did was obscene. One small example. Flying in fresh Alaskan salmon to have in time for tomorrow's dinner.

 

[grappler6]

If fired, he is likely to lose probably 500,000 in salary. Who knows the additional camp costs(MN gave him a pretty good deal) or the lack of participation to them and that financial total. He loses his free licensing agreement for his clothing. It all adds up, especially over time.

 

[SPOONER]

If fired, he is likely to lose probably 500,000 in salary. Who knows the additional camp costs(MN gave him a pretty good deal) or the lack of participation to them and that financial total. He loses his free licensing agreement for his clothing. It all adds up, especially over time.

Would he lose retirement benefits? That's a big question in my opinion.

 

[FineMaterial]

How can a guy like him have financial struggles? Living outside his means?

Google says his wrestling salary is $140k. Not grand riches. I'm sure his camp adds a good bit and he has been at this a while but $140k is a joke.

 

[jammenz]

I wouldn't mind JRob staying at Minn for another 20 years.

I agree. Minny has had 12 top three NCAA finishes in the last twenty years. Iowa's mix of coaches have also been able to finish top three 12 times.

 

[Chopper25]

I agree. Minny has had 12 top three NCAA finishes in the last twenty years. Iowa's mix of coaches have also been able to finish top three 12 times.

And last year a very impressive 17th, and edged out by Kent State.

 

[ping72]

she calls out the other side and plays the sympathy card, but doesn't give any facts about how he handled this situation which is what would inspire me to defend him if he did the right things.

If put $100 that his lawyers won't let them discuss.

 

[DayHawk18]

He makes high 6 figures, he makes a killing of the camps. Poor him paying for an attorney

 

[ferentzin04]

And last year a very impressive 17th, and edged out by Kent State.

Out of curiosity I looked, and unless I missed a year, Iowa hasn't finished outside the top 10 since 1972(when we finished 11th). They were 32nd the year before.

 

[MNkids2IA]

Fox News 9 Twins Cities reporting no charges (for now) will be filed against the dealing wrestler/s. http://www.fox9.com/news/investigators/165340298-story

 

[MitchL]

BooHoo! Different circumstances, but when you distance yourself from the program and let the assts run the show, these things can happen. As I said... different deal, but JoePa made one stupid mistake and he paid for it too.

 

[hawkssox1]

He makes high 6 figures, he makes a killing of the camps. Poor him paying for an attorney

Simply not true.

 

[ping72]

Fox News 9 Twins Cities reporting no charges (for now) will be filed against the dealing wrestler/s. http://www.fox9.com/news/investigators/165340298-story

The original news report was 4 wrestlers. That police statement makes it sound like they've zeroed in on one wrestler.

Have any names been dropped, yet?

 

[rossel 33]

I agree. Minny has had 12 top three NCAA finishes in the last twenty years. Iowa's mix of coaches have also been able to finish top three 12 times.

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.... and Minny's headed in the right direction, eh?

 

[HAMNEGGS]

On another note, I heard Berge was in I.C. the last few days. Can anyone confirm?

 

[grapplefann]

Okay folks, JRob is a stand-up guy who deserves far better than cheap shots from the peanut gallery. Don't forget that this is the guy who helped Gable build Hawkeye wrestling into what we all care about so much today.

As for who did what, please cut the speculation, the conjecture, and the rationalizations and let the real legal system work through this. What we don't need in our sport is to have the Minny University Administration cover their butt by kicking JRob to the curb without due process.

Most of us realize that JRob isn't the first coach to get hamstrung by student misbehavior, and he won't be the last either. Unlike many of the others, I have little doubt that his intentions were honorable. Please consider allowing this guy to end his great career with a little dignity by jotting a quick email supporting JRob to the Minny Board of Regents.

 

[brucefan]

Okay folks, JRob is a stand-up guy who deserves far better than cheap shots from the peanut gallery. Don't forget that this is the guy who helped Gable build Hawkeye wrestling into what we all care about so much today.

As for who did what, please cut the speculation, the conjecture, and the rationalizations and let the real legal system work through this. What we don't need in our sport is to have the Minny University Administration cover their butt by kicking JRob to the curb without due process.

Most of us realize that JRob isn't the first coach to get hamstrung by student misbehavior, and he won't be the last either. Unlike many of the others, I have little doubt that his intentions were honorable. Please consider allowing this guy to end his great career with a little dignity by jotting a quick email supporting JRob to the Minny Board of Regents.

You want us to cut the speculation, the conjecture, and the rationalizations, huh? But you also want us to write a letter of support for J.Rob despite not actually knowing any of the facts of the case. Seems to me having "little doubt that this intentions were honorable" is baseless speculation, conjecture, and rationalization. But I guess it's OK because it's your speculation, conjecture, and rationalization.

 

[Huck]

I think the main basis of grapplefann's post is that the guy deserves a little more respect considering all he's done for wrestling, let alone his connection and contributions to the Hawkeye Wrestling Program.
In my mind you give someone like that the benefit of the doubt and don't "pile" on "one of your own". In general, J is considered a very respected member of the wrestling world. In my mind he deserves the benefit of the doubt until it plays out and we know the facts.

I'm not saying everyone should defend him but I'd guess most have no REAL reason to go after him either. Of course I'm sure there are plenty in the camp that think since he's a prominent and successful member of the wrestling world that he's free game.

 

[minnhawkeye]

Just my opinion on this whole mess.
Why is the police and U of Mn not pressing any charges against the wrestlers?
If they get no punishment for this then for sure J.R.is getting a screwing. All I will say also is I know for a fact they where selling these pills that is all I know have no idea how many or how they got them.
I just feel so sad for J.R. all the years he gave wrestling and they treating him this way.

 

[championhawk]

I think the main basis of grapplefann's post is that the guy deserves a little more respect considering all he's done for wrestling, let alone his connection and contributions to the Hawkeye Wrestling Program.
In my mind you give someone like that the benefit of the doubt and don't "pile" on "one of your own". In general, J is considered a very respected member of the wrestling world. In my mind he deserves the benefit of the doubt until it plays out and we know the facts.

I'm not saying everyone should defend him but I'd guess most have no REAL reason to go after him either. Of course I'm sure there are plenty in the camp that think since he's a prominent and successful member of the wrestling world that he's free game.

I think they are very few on here going after him or wishing ill will. Most are taking a wait and see approach to see what his role was in the situation.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Just my opinion on this whole mess.
Why is the police and U of Mn not pressing any charges against the wrestlers?
If they get no punishment for this then for sure J.R.is getting a screwing. All I will say also is I know for a fact they where selling these pills that is all I know have no idea how many or how they got them.
I just feel so sad for J.R. all the years he gave wrestling and they treating him this way.

Hard to press charges when you don't have the pills as proof if reports are true. Statements and essays don't prove anything. Sometimes you know a crime has been committed but can't get a conviction. That may be so here. However and as AZ said on BWI, there is a difference between being charged with a crime and losing your status/scholarship on the team. The threshold for being kicked off the team is much, much lower than for a criminal proceeding, so I would expect one or more members of the team to be missing come this fall.

Firing JRob for not reporting alleged dealing would be the right thing to do. Firing him and not penalizing those who were dealing would be the wrong thing to do.

 

[moosemonster]

It could also be that the wrestlers involved are cooperating with the investigation. They may have given up their supplier. In drug cases, that is a common way to escape prosecution.

 

[wasdt21]

g6 is one of my favorite non iowa posters and maybe he knows jrob enough to say that he is sure he acted in an honorable way, but I do not. yes jay was at iowa when we were coming into our own, that doesn't tell me he is not trying to cover his own butt. I hope it is proved that he did act in a manner deserving of our respect and support, but to tell me I am wrong because I don't know the facts is the same thing and to say jay gave so much for so long, well I think wrestling probably gave him a pretty good life and right now he is hurting wrestling. now we've got lawyers and police and it is jays responsibility to be on top of his program.i do not want the university to sacrifice jay, but he should have bowed out before it got more ugly than than what it was.

 

[jammenz]

It's a good thing you didn't have lawyers and police when three Iowa wrestlers were facing 39 felony and misdemeanor charges, or you might have been calling for Tom Brand's head. It's probably a lot easier to get on your high horse when it is another team's coach, even if no charges have been filed.

 

[hawkssox1]

It's a good thing you didn't have lawyers and police when three Iowa wrestlers were facing 39 felony and misdemeanor charges, or you might have been calling for Tom Brand's head. It's probably a lot easier to get on your high horse when it is another team's coach, even if no charges have been filed.

Who are you talking to?

 

[Azchief32]

You want us to cut the speculation, the conjecture, and the rationalizations, huh? But you also want us to write a letter of support for J.Rob despite not actually knowing any of the facts of the case. Seems to me having "little doubt that this intentions were honorable" is baseless speculation, conjecture, and rationalization. But I guess it's OK because it's your speculation, conjecture, and rationalization.

Boom.

I want JRob to retire with honor and have had multiple posts on how screwed up the media is but we don't know anything. This is a message board though and people are going to post opinions.

 

[wasdt21]

it's your program going down the tubes dumba$$

 

[Pennstate1985]

It's a good thing you didn't have lawyers and police when three Iowa wrestlers were facing 39 felony and misdemeanor charges, or you might have been calling for Tom Brand's head. It's probably a lot easier to get on your high horse when it is another team's coach, even if no charges have been filed.

Here's the difference between the two. Tom brands had nothing to do with getting drunk and breaking into people's homes. Once he found out about it, he dismissed them from the team almost immediately. At Minnesota, team members were allegedly dealing drugs and JRob allegedly covered up this much more serious criminal activity.

 

[Neo_Hawk]

It's a good thing you didn't have lawyers and police when three Iowa wrestlers were facing 39 felony and misdemeanor charges, or you might have been calling for Tom Brand's head. It's probably a lot easier to get on your high horse when it is another team's coach, even if no charges have been filed.

What a silly post. I have nothing against JRob and don't have a lot to say on the topic because we really don't have a lot of details and we don't know which of the details that have been reported are true and which are not, but to compare these two situation is one of the dumbest things you have ever posted over here, and that's saying a lot.

IA - one night of poor decisions 30+ miles outside of Iowa City. MN - an on-going issue which looks to have been committed on campus and involved multiple students. IA - Coaches took swift action suspending those being accused. MN - We don't know all the details, but no one was suspended and police were not involved.

I am not slamming MN or JRob, but these are two totally different situations, as you are well aware. And as far as anyone on this board that is slamming JRob or calling for him to be fired or just wishing him ill, there were twice that number of people slamming TNT on the MN board. I know you are a troll, but through your posts you bring negative attention to the issue which you are claiming to defend.

 

[Azchief32]

It's a good thing you didn't have lawyers and police when three Iowa wrestlers were facing 39 felony and misdemeanor charges, or you might have been calling for Tom Brand's head. It's probably a lot easier to get on your high horse when it is another team's coach, even if no charges have been filed.

Yes...totally the same. So when is JRob going to suspend the wrestler's involved? I'll wait.

We lost a starter because of that in Seth Gross. Guess Brands should have went the one page letter of contrition route.

Dumbass.