Not a fan of the choice. Harris had Minnesota wrapped up and I don't find Tim Walz to be all that compelling.
Should have gone with Kelly or Shaprio IMO.
Should have gone with Kelly or Shaprio IMO.
Kamala Harris VP pick thread
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I liked them all. I'm fine with the choice.
Read the guy’s bio on Wikipedia. He’s an outstanding pick. Someone that can be an effective messenger and maybe gain back some rural areas because he knows how to talk to them.
What’s his position on couch sex?
Softball for all y’all …
Softball for all y’all …
I am very happy it's Walz. Walz is incredibly likable and has a way of boiling things down in a very relatable way. Harris did very well here
Tim Walz is the safe pick and the “unweird” choice… Clair McCaskell refers to Walz as “a Happy warrior” ( direct reference to Hubert Humphrey..another Minnesota Democratic warhorse). The only controversy will be Walz is not from Pennsylvania.
Hmmm...IMO she didn’t help herself with this pick.
Walz didn’t shoot enough protestors for your tastes? Harris was in the Senate at the time, by the way.
They must have actually been nervous about losing Minnesota given this pick.
I'm not impressed. Walz, like Kamala, is very very far left. He encouraged the BLM riots (that Kamala then fundraised for the same violent criminals to be bailed out of jail) and is woke on pretty much every issue down to putting tampons in the boys bathrooms in government schools.
Furthest left ticket in US history far and away.
I'm not impressed. Walz, like Kamala, is very very far left. He encouraged the BLM riots (that Kamala then fundraised for the same violent criminals to be bailed out of jail) and is woke on pretty much every issue down to putting tampons in the boys bathrooms in government schools.
Furthest left ticket in US history far and away.
When he stands next to J.D. Vance does he seem more likely to be able to be president? That is the question that matters, and Vance is just plain weird.
This is 100% why he was chosen. He’s definitely going to play up the folksy Midwestern dad persona.
Based on his electoral history that seems to not be the case.
2010 MN Gov (Mark Dayton)
2014 MN Gov (Mark Dayton)
2018 (Tim Waltz)
2022 (Tim Waltz)
He's losing more and more rural areas in MN, not gaining them.
Nah Shapiro was the much easier target for Trump.
Walz energizes the base more and has less baggage policy wise.
Based on his electoral history that seems to not be the case.
2010 MN Gov (Mark Dayton)
2014 MN Gov (Mark Dayton)
2018 (Tim Waltz)
2022 (Tim Waltz)
He's losing more and more rural areas in MN, not gaining them.
Boom.
Shapiro would have been a far better pick despite him settling sexual harassment claims with tax payer money. Walz is one of the worst governors in the country lol
If she would have picked Jeffrey Dahmer you would've said you liked the pick and Harris did very well.😄😆
That’s true nationwide. I didn’t say win rural areas outright. The key for Dems is to not get destroyed in rural areas and only lose like 60-40 instead of 80-20.Based on his electoral history that seems to not be the case.
2010 MN Gov (Mark Dayton)
2014 MN Gov (Mark Dayton)
2018 (Tim Waltz)
2022 (Tim Waltz)
He's losing more and more rural areas in MN, not gaining them.
Individually, Walz is a good pick. He's a moderate with a good background.
In this election though, I don't know what he brings aside from being a better speaker than Harris. Minnesota hasn't gone Repub since Nixon in 1972. And only 3 times in the past 90 years. It was the only state that didn't vote for Reagan in 1984. Hillary was kind of close to losing the state, but worrying about Minnesota isn't nearly as important as trying to win other truly purple states like PA or GA.
In this election though, I don't know what he brings aside from being a better speaker than Harris. Minnesota hasn't gone Repub since Nixon in 1972. And only 3 times in the past 90 years. It was the only state that didn't vote for Reagan in 1984. Hillary was kind of close to losing the state, but worrying about Minnesota isn't nearly as important as trying to win other truly purple states like PA or GA.
That isn't the case either. In terms of percentages he blew away the competition in 2 straight elections. He won by 11 in 2018 and 8 points in 2022 which is far better than the previous 2 term Dem governor who won by 6 in 2014 and less than a half a percent in 2010.
However Walz is just running up the votes in the urban areas more than previous governors. Look at the urban counties they get a darker blue with Walz.
You might point to a slightly smaller margin in 2022 but I would argue that's only evidence the Republican candidate in 2018 was bad because it was the same candidate from 2014 when the margin for the same D governor jumped from less than half a percent to 6.
Walz is a moderate if he stands between 2 extreme liberals.
And if Minnesota always goes D, what does he give the ticket?
I’m guessing that last paragraph has more to do with the candidates Republicans are running these days than anything else.
And burning things down.
The ignorant left wingers with their heads in the sand will attempt to deny it but the MN Governor did a poor job in the aftermath of the George Floyd killing; there's no question about it.
Crime (looting, arson) and violence started getting really bad on Tues May 26, 2020, the day after George Floyd's death. Law enforcement was clearly outnumbered as stores were looted and set on fire. 2 days later, on May 28, 2020, the National Guard was finally activated by the MN Governor.
Because of Tim Walz's lack of leadership and not calling in the National Guard right away (as you will read, he was hesitating; meanwhile, law enforcement was clearly outnumbered by the rioters), many buildings in Minneapolis and St Paul burned to the ground.
The timeline:
Mon May 25, 2020: George Floyd was killed
Tues May 26, 2020: Protests in Minneapolis begin, and the police use tear gas to break them up. That night, violent protests broke out in Minneapolis, as businesses were looted and buildings burned. Some demonstrators vandalized police vehicles with graffiti and targeted the precinct house where the 4 police officers (who had responded to the George Floyd incident) had been assigned.
Wed May 27, 2020: Minneapolis Mayor calls Gov Walz, asking him to deploy the Minnesota National Guard to the streets of Minneapolis.
For the 2nd straight night, violent protests again broke out in Minneapolis, as businesses continued be be looted and buildings burned.
Thurs May 28, 2020: Minneapolis 3rd precinct police station is surrendered and evacuated and burns to the ground.
More than 1,000 buildings were burned or damaged in Minneapolis in the days after George Floyd’s murder.
The police station that was surrendered:
Thurs May 28 and Fri May 29, 2020: Various businesses were vandalized and set on fire in St. Paul.
Thur May 28, 2020: The National Guard is finally activated by the Minnesota governor.
Sat May 30, 2020: An 8 p.m. curfew is established. After 4 nights of chaos in Minneapolis, the Minneapolis mayor called on people to stay home. “What started as largely peaceful protests for George Floyd have turned to outright looting and domestic terrorism in our region,” he said on Twitter.
Story from KARE 11 TV, an NBC affiliate in Minneapolis:
On May 25, 2020 George Floyd was killed.
Two days later, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey made a call to Gov. Tim Walz (the night of May 27), asking him to deploy the Minnesota National Guard to the streets of Minneapolis. That would've been a full 24 hours before the city evacuated the 3rd Precinct Police headquarters, surrendering to the rioters, allowing the police station to burn to the ground.
At 8:05 p.m. on May 27, the mayor's office asked, "What's happening? As far as the Guard." The mayor's aid responds, "He said Walz was hesitating."
The mayor's staff went as far as drafting an press release at 9:00 p.m. that same night, announcing that Frey was requesting the National Guard. That release was never sent. According to sources at City Hall, Mayor Frey didn't want to appear like he was using the media to pressure Walz.
Officers from the Minnesota State Patrol, DNR and other state agencies were already on the ground across the Twin Cities working in support of local police operations, but they were outnumbered.
Sources:
Documents show Frey sought National Guard early
Newly released texts show the Minneapolis Mayor reached out to Gov. Walz the night of Wednesday, May 27 asking him to bring in the National Guard.
www.kare11.com
Police looking for dozens who looted Lululemon on St. Paul’s Grand Ave. during Floyd unrest
After dozens of people looted a high-end athletic wear company’s store on St. Paul’s Grand Avenue, police released surveillance photos Wednesday and asked for the public’s help to…
www.twincities.com
One year later, few charges for the arson and destruction • Minnesota Reformer
Nearly 100 people have faced felony charges related to the unrest in the Twin Cities after the murder of George Floyd.
minnesotareformer.com
Looting hits Twin Cities after Floyd's death
Fires are still burning and looting is taking place after violent protests over the death of a black man in police custody hit Minneapolis for a second straight night.
www.mprnews.org
I think that is the big story here. Shapiro was the safe moderate pick and Walz is about as left as it gets on most policy issues. Appease the radicals in the party I guess.
DUI in 95? He's definitely got at least one posters support on here with that fact alone
Even the Red counties in MN got redder with him.
Now you could say that's a nationwide trend. But I'm just not seeing evidence that he can appeal better to rural voters or get the margins closer.
