The defense essentially won those game for Iowa. Deacon Hill had very, very little do to do with the season win total. Period.
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Right.
No one is championing him as the quarterback version of Charlie Jones, but it isn’t hard to see that he is clearly better than Deacon Hill.
The fact there was according to Kirk and Brian no better option on the roster than Deacon Hill speaks to gross incompetence in recruiting or in assessing quarterback talent. It’s one or the other.
It is just astounding that some fans continue to defend Kirk on this.
True, but our athletic department was being run by an empty suit with bad teeth for too long.
I agree with this. And all of those teams mentioned had a win vs a good team. The 2009 team may have had the most good wins of any team. Three wins vs top 10 teams! The 2008 team could be added to that list as well.
I would say the 2023 team is an anomaly as well as the 2022 team just because of how they won. The over/under on point spreads will be historical. I respect the hell of that. But the only thing missing from those teams was a good win, with the exception of maybe the bowl win vs Kentucky.
I'm sure you'll come back to eat crow if he puts up another Kentuckyesque stat line.
Exactly. They beat bad to average teams, SOLELY due to a fantastic defense.
? Don’t forget our great ST play. It is a 3 phase game, we’re really good a 2 of those, really bad at the other. Unfortunately most people tune in for the phase that we’re really bad at. It can only get better, right?
I didn't say it was one of their best teams ever.
And yes, I thoroughly enjoyed the games last season. The most entertaining season I can remember in a while
That's fair.
But also Iowa would not have even earned the opportunity to play the excellent opponents in the conference title and bowls game (that ended in losses) without the 10-2. Go 9-3 in the regular season, miss the conference title game, and beat a lesser opponent in the bowl game = 10-3 = better winning percentage. But the 10-4 season was more impressive.
Still a very successful season
Something else happened there, now I do wonder why we couldn’t get past it, but we didn’t
Astoundingly poor take.
That situation has been broken down on this board many times.
How many QB's are you trying to roster? Do you know how many teams are praying they have even one guy that turns out decent?
If anything, KF should be praised for having the foresight to have brought someone (DH) in as an emergency QB
And there you go again reaching for anything to create a pro-Kirk narrative. Dochterman cited facts. What the hell you got, big guy?
A few days ago KF was quoted as saying, "I don't know anything about QBs, but . . . " Another fact. KF may have, like a fat orange man I know, admitted the truth while trying to be clever.
Remember when KF said he wouldn't bother getting on the bus if Deuce Hogan had to play QB? Who the hell do you think recruited that kid? Kirk freakin' Ferentz.
Petras and Hill were two of the worst QBs ever to take a snap in Kinnick Stadium. Hill, of course, is now at mighty Utah Tech after KF signed off on bringing him to Iowa City even though Hill was comitted to . . . FORDHAM!
Buy a clue, buddy. Then you'll finally have one. LOL
ISU, Wisconsin, NW, Rutgers. All bowl teams.
But no win should be minimized. And Iowa had 10 of them
They could have gone 5-4 in the b10 and as long as those 2 extra losses weren't against NW or Wisconsin they still would have gone to Indy. That is how bad the big ten west was. College football is better off without that joke of a division
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Was Joe Labas on the team last year or not? Period.
ISU was not a good team last year. NW was not a good team last year. Rutgers was not a good team last year. There were 43 D1 bowl games last year. MANY crappy teams played in bowls.
Nate Stanley was successful and we all know Petras left plays on the field in 2020 and 2021. Agreed, though, that things would have been difficult for anyone the past two seasons. (And I'm glad that Brian is gone.)
Didn’t take the time to look at all of the posts so this may have already been noted.
Maybe both things are true. Maybe Labas was an immature screw up last year and earned/deserved his time on the bench. But as a result, he grew up and dedicated himself to the game, but needed a new environment, and will become a reliable QB/teammate.
Maybe both things are true. Maybe Labas was an immature screw up last year and earned/deserved his time on the bench. But as a result, he grew up and dedicated himself to the game, but needed a new environment, and will become a reliable QB/teammate.
27th best season in IA FB history. Not exactly 'One of the best'.
Assuming Labas had some self-discipline issues, he may have needed some tough love from the Iowa program and the change of venue to anywhere might be key for his progress. Some guys really need a wake-up call.
Hopefully for Joe, he continues to play well when the competition gets tougher and he is taking care of the self-discipline issues. I would hate to see him end up like Jacob Park. He was the uber-talented QB with alcohol-abuse issues who transferred from South Carolina to ISU. He lit up the Hawks in 2017 (347 yards passing and 4 TDs), but only lasted two more games before dropping off the team.
Hopefully for Joe, he continues to play well when the competition gets tougher and he is taking care of the self-discipline issues. I would hate to see him end up like Jacob Park. He was the uber-talented QB with alcohol-abuse issues who transferred from South Carolina to ISU. He lit up the Hawks in 2017 (347 yards passing and 4 TDs), but only lasted two more games before dropping off the team.
Well, we simply disagree on what good and crappy teams are.
For the record, NW beat Utah in their bowl game. And Rutgers manhandled Miami in theirs
Hopefully moving forward we lose all games so we don’t have to field ignorant comments like this, you know because that would be better, it maybe win the ones we shouldn’t & lose to the dogs
ISU ended the season ranked #52, Northwestern Ended up Ranked #39 and Rutgers ended up #49, according to Athlon. NONE of those teams were listed as ranked teams at the end of the year by the AP. What planet are you from?
Not defending Kirk on this, but the last 3 years the QB's didn't stand a chance with that offensive offensive line. No chance to check down to 2nd receivers, run for your life while being chased down by 4-5 defenders in the backfield. Brian & Kirk can/should take some blame for not scheming better, but the O-Line coach better hope they perform this year or he's gone. And hopefully we have receivers who can break coverage.
I really DGAF what the kid does. He isn't with Iowa any more. Yeah!, he beat on a high school level team last night. I probably could have thrown for a couple TDs against that team, and yeah Central Mich must put up with behaviors that were not acceptable at Iowa.
Pretty sure you missed the sarcasm. I was getting ripped for saying the same kind of thing Dochterman was.
Come on man, you know what I meant. Commenting on the same thing...Labas had good stats last night.
ANYWAY...enuff of that. Let's get the W tomorrow! It's time for Lester to shake things up for the better.
You tried to make a narrative out of it while Dochterman simply posted stats.
But yes BeattOSU missed that entirely.
And yes on the W tomorrow! Run the ball
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