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There's no room on the team for those who use dope!
Define "dope". I'd say a very large proportion of the U.S. population has used cannabis at some point in their lives. Probably 75% of college students. It's not exactly performance enhancing and is actually prescribed at times for injury recovery. CBD creams are very popular.
 
There's no room on the team for those who use dope!
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Define "dope". I'd say a very large proportion of the U.S. population has used cannabis at some point in their lives. Probably 75% of college students. It's not exactly performance enhancing and is actually prescribed at times for injury recovery. CBD creams are very popular.
Uppers, downers, heroin, coke, meth, weed, it's all illegal and it's all dope!
 
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Define "dope". I'd say a very large proportion of the U.S. population has used cannabis at some point in their lives. Probably 75% of college students. It's not exactly performance enhancing and is actually prescribed at times for injury recovery. CBD creams are very popular.
Only 11% daily and 34% never. I would say the 11% are who are being referred to. You can't be a pothead and a serious football player at the same time.
 
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Only 11% daily and 34% never. I would say the 11% are who are being referred to. You can't be a pothead and a serious football player at the same time.
Josh Gordon disagrees… lol. But seriously likely not helping these guys and they should be able to be clean 24/7 since it’s a part of their job as a student athlete. But hardly the worst thing they could do. I’d argue binge drinking is worse and I’m sure the percentage of players doing that in the off season is quite high
 
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So if you are running a business and have a talented employee that always shows up late, smokes a shit ton of weed and generally doesn't seem invested, you just let him run the show while holding others to different standards? I don't think so.

It doesn't matter if he gave us a better chance. If you don't do as expected you don't play. Pretty simple if you ask me.

I get it and agree but my gosh Deacon litetally hurt this team. Lainez would have been more interesting. Or a walk on. Or me.
 
Only 11% daily and 34% never. I would say the 11% are who are being referred to. You can't be a pothead and a serious football player at the same time.
ummmm Ricky Williams.... ever heard of him? With a name like "texas twister" I think you'd be a little more informed. Now change your name to titty twister for that oversight....

 
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Hopefully moving forward we lose all games so we don’t have to field ignorant comments like this, you know because that would be better, it maybe win the ones we shouldn’t & lose to the dogs
Look at Chad, the greatest Hawk fan of all time. So great, he'd rather the team lose than have his fragile brain be exposed to an opinion he doesn't agree with.
 
Yeah, doing a little THC is the same thing as snorting coke or shooting meth or heroin. JFC.
Here are some quotes from a Harvard study:
*Long-term cannabis users' IQs declined by 5.5 points on average from childhood
*The more frequently an individual used cannabis, the greater the resulting cognitive impairment
*people who knew these long-term cannabis users well observed that they had developed memory and attention problems
*in the brain, Memory-related structures in their brains appeared to shrink and collapse inward

Also, the study defined heavy use as at least once a week!!
 
Here are some quotes from a Harvard study:
*Long-term cannabis users' IQs declined by 5.5 points on average from childhood
*The more frequently an individual used cannabis, the greater the resulting cognitive impairment
*people who knew these long-term cannabis users well observed that they had developed memory and attention problems
*in the brain, Memory-related structures in their brains appeared to shrink and collapse inward

Also, the study defined heavy use as at least once a week!!
And did they study the impact of drinking a 6 pack or more per week? How about 2+ soda's a day? Sugar? Processed meats?

Where did they get their subjects for this study? Did they study people who started smoking weed from 13 years old until they were in their 60's? So many flawed studies out there that researchers skew the results to keep their projects funded by the government.

Disclaimer: I am not a smoker or user of cannabis, but I am skeptical of any "studies" which are funded by government or universities. Way too many biases involved in many of studies.
 
Look at Chad, the greatest Hawk fan of all time. So great, he'd rather the team lose than have his fragile brain be exposed to an opinion he doesn't agree with.
Sarcasm isn’t that hard to see. Think about it, we won, and it didn’t count because it wasn’t a good team. Absolutely the dumbest most ignorant comment that ever gets said on any sports board. The alternative being we lost them. I’m sorry it was lost on you, but not surprised. Look at who liked your post 🤷‍♂️
 
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And did they study the impact of drinking a 6 pack or more per week? How about 2+ soda's a day? Sugar? Processed meats?

Where did they get their subjects for this study? Did they study people who started smoking weed from 13 years old until they were in their 60's? So many flawed studies out there that researchers skew the results to keep their projects funded by the government.

Disclaimer: I am not a smoker or user of cannabis, but I am skeptical of any "studies" which are funded by government or universities. Way too many biases involved in many of studies.
So this must mean you didn't get any covid shots, because, you know, the gvmt said it was needed? Unfortunately I needed my first 2 because I was traveling that summer.
 
it's amazing to me that Deacon is still defended. He was the worst QB I have ever seen at the D1 level. That was proven with his play and his landing spot after transfer.

Awful isnt a strong enough word to describe his play.

122/251 1152 yards 5 passing TDs, 8 picks, 11 fumbles, 24 sacks....in 10 games.
 
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The fact that folks try to point to the performance that Labas had against a shit-team as an argument against Kirk is pure asinine. Kirk went all-in last year for McNamara ... only McNamara got injured. As for Labas ... as others have indicated, he was in the dog-house. Anyhow, Labas is a kid who's athletic and talented ... but he's also not the brightest bulb. The O that Iowa was running under O'Keefe and Brian put more responsibility on the shoulders of the QB than Labas could handle. That's BOTH on Ken and Brian for not suitably simplifying the O for the QB ... AND on the Labas for not reading Ds suitably well.
 
So if you are running a business and have a talented employee that always shows up late, smokes a shit ton of weed and generally doesn't seem invested, you just let him run the show while holding others to different standards? I don't think so.

It doesn't matter if he gave us a better chance. If you don't do as expected you don't play. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Well Labas is not in jail and his new stop seems happy with him. I imagine he wasn't invested because he didn't get any snaps.

Going with Deacon Hill got BF fired, so I guess it worked out for Iowa fans.
 
The fact that folks try to point to the performance that Labas had against a shit-team as an argument against Kirk is pure asinine. Kirk went all-in last year for McNamara ... only McNamara got injured. As for Labas ... as others have indicated, he was in the dog-house. Anyhow, Labas is a kid who's athletic and talented ... but he's also not the brightest bulb. The O that Iowa was running under O'Keefe and Brian put more responsibility on the shoulders of the QB than Labas could handle. That's BOTH on Ken and Brian for not suitably simplifying the O for the QB ... AND on the Labas for not reading Ds suitably well.
Deacon HIll and the shit show that Brian and Kirk put up undermines your argument.
 
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it's amazing to me that Deacon is still defended. He was the worst QB I have ever seen at the D1 level. That was proven with his play and his landing spot after transfer.

Awful isnt a strong enough word to describe his play.

122/251 1152 yards 5 passing TDs, 8 picks, 11 fumbles, 24 sacks....in 10 games.

Absolutely. Labas is clearly a better QB than Deacon. Deacon's best landing spot was an unknown FCS school (I honestly had never heard of Utah Tech before). Labas landed at a decent MAC school. Labas has looked impressive at CMU (had a big spring scrimmage game, and great stats in game 1) while Deacon struggled to win the starting job and then completed less than 50% of his passes for less than 5 yards per attempt.

The fact that Labas got zero snaps last year is insane. If he really was high all the time and skipping practice (unsubstantiated message board rumors), such that he really could not be trusted, then why wasn't he just cut from the team?
 
Multiple things can be true:
1. Labas was, after McNamara was injured, the most talented quarterback on Iowa's roster in 2023.
2. The decision not to play Labas was due to reasons other than his talent.
3. Discipline and willingness to follow the rules are important to the culture and success of a football roster.
4. Labas played Central Connecticut State yesterday.
5. Central Connecticut State was 3-8 in 2023, including losses to Stonehill, Brown, LIU, and Merrimack.
6. Central Connecticut State's DBs were completely incapable of staying with CMU's WRs.
7. Labas's statistical output was far better than an Iowa QB's in a single game in 2023.
CCS is coming off a season as the #92 ranked defense in FCS.
 
I really DGAF what the kid does. He isn't with Iowa any more. Yeah!, he beat on a high school level team last night. I probably could have thrown for a couple TDs against that team, and yeah Central Mich must put up with behaviors that were not acceptable at Iowa.
Does the "D" in DGAF stand for "do" or "don't"? It's hard to tell from your post. (Not asking for a friend.)
 
And did they study the impact of drinking a 6 pack or more per week? How about 2+ soda's a day? Sugar? Processed meats?

Where did they get their subjects for this study? Did they study people who started smoking weed from 13 years old until they were in their 60's? So many flawed studies out there that researchers skew the results to keep their projects funded by the government.

Disclaimer: I am not a smoker or user of cannabis, but I am skeptical of any "studies" which are funded by government or universities. Way too many biases involved in many of studies.
There no way to completely eliminate biases in research no matter who funds them. People, companies, governments fund research as they often have an inherent interest in the outcome, bias. The researchers themselves have biases- results that will get them more funding and more prestige as they climb the ladder. A good researcher/reviewer must be aware of biases. With that said, there is a wealth of research on cannabis and its deleterious effects on the brain. the most concerning issue to me is that the effects of chronic use appear to be most pronounced in the developing brain. Cannabis users have little to be concerned about as the cash cow for governments in legalized states and the marijuana lobby are now firmly entrenched.
 
There no way to completely eliminate biases in research no matter who funds them. People, companies, governments fund research as they often have an inherent interest in the outcome, bias. The researchers themselves have biases- results that will get them more funding and more prestige as they climb the ladder. A good researcher/reviewer must be aware of biases. With that said, there is a wealth of research on cannabis and its deleterious effects on the brain. the most concerning issue to me is that the effects of chronic use appear to be most pronounced in the developing brain. Cannabis users have little to be concerned about as the cash cow for governments in legalized states and the marijuana lobby are now firmly entrenched.
And how does it compare against alcohol? I think overall alcohol causes more issues than pot. Other than brain and liver damage, I've seen alcohol cause more damage to communities than marijuana. Never heard of a pothead accused of rage crimes like an alcoholic. Pot mellows you out, alcohol seems to do the opposite. Both can be abused, but seems pot is less dangerous overall. Everything in moderation. This is just my opinion, I am not a doctor nor a researcher. But I have stayed in several Holiday Inn's.

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Deacon HIll and the shit show that Brian and Kirk put up undermines your argument.
But you don't agree that the O would have looked a lot better had McNamara, Lachey, and All all remained healthy?

The Deacon Hill fiasco was nothing more than a bandaid that was put on a gushing hemorrhage. Given injuries and our personnel issues - the O would most certainly not have been appreciably better under Labas. What's more, there is the precedent that you want to instill in the players ... and that is that it is important to do things the right way, and that the coaches will not bend to the breeze that asks them to win at all costs. I can respect that ... furthermore, Hawk fans here give Husker fans grief all the time in response to the fact that Osborn ended up essentially taking a win-at-all-costs stance (given when he let come to pass in his program).
 
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it's amazing to me that Deacon is still defended. He was the worst QB I have ever seen at the D1 level. That was proven with his play and his landing spot after transfer.

Awful isnt a strong enough word to describe his play.

122/251 1152 yards 5 passing TDs, 8 picks, 11 fumbles, 24 sacks....in 10 games.
I don't think anyone has defended Deacon
 
Well Labas is not in jail and his new stop seems happy with him. I imagine he wasn't invested because he didn't get any snaps.

Going with Deacon Hill got BF fired, so I guess it worked out for Iowa fans.
I imagine you imagined wrong.

Hill passed Labas on the depth chart a couple weeks after arriving in the spring.

It would appear the issues with Labas had already surfaced
 
Absolutely. Labas is clearly a better QB than Deacon. Deacon's best landing spot was an unknown FCS school (I honestly had never heard of Utah Tech before). Labas landed at a decent MAC school. Labas has looked impressive at CMU (had a big spring scrimmage game, and great stats in game 1) while Deacon struggled to win the starting job and then completed less than 50% of his passes for less than 5 yards per attempt.

The fact that Labas got zero snaps last year is insane. If he really was high all the time and skipping practice (unsubstantiated message board rumors), such that he really could not be trusted, then why wasn't he just cut from the team?
You are the first I've heard say Labas was skipping practice. I doubt that's true. What's been said is that he was late to meetings. If he was skipping practices, my guess is he would have been dismissed.

Not insane at all that Labas didn't play. Actually, it would have been closer to insane to have played him, assuming the rumors are true. You can't have a guy that isn't invested leading your team. It's makings to absolutely ruin a team.

Listen, I hate repeating rumors about people. Especially college kids. I really do. But I also hate people that think coaches are crazy.

Here we have a situation that doesn't add up. We have incomplete information and have to play a little detective. And this one is really easy.

Why did KF move Hill ahead of Labas two weeks after Hill had arrived to campus in the spring? The detective knows that everyone understands that, on paper, Labas is the better football player. He also knows KF to be loyal. So if the players happened to be neck-and-neck in practice, KF would give the nod to Labas. Similar to his loyalty, KF is thorough and process oriented. The detective knows that it would be unlike KF to move Hill ahead of Labas so quickly without feeling that Hill was clearly the better player.

Unless there was something else to the story. Turns out, there were rumors of such.

So the detective realizes that the reason loyal KF moved Hill ahead of Labas so quickly in spring was either because the rumors were true, or because KF and staff felt Hill to clearly be the better player, making them completely clueless, as everyone else understands Labas to clearly be the better player.

So guess which option the detective chooses as most likely. Think long and hard about it.....That's right! The detective does not make the assumption that a staff of experts in their field are clueless. Like I said, easy case for the detective.

This argument is like most of the rest of them on this board. They have a side that is fueled by the assumption that KF and staff are clueless. And they are all ridiculous.

KF is an intelligent man. But would any of you want him coming into your office, telling you how to do your job? Of course not.

It should also be mentioned that last year's team was incredibly unified. They all fought for each other, and that included Deacon. Not one of them was distracted by the thought that someone else should have been playing QB
 
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Define "dope". I'd say a very large proportion of the U.S. population has used cannabis at some point in their lives. Probably 75% of college students. It's not exactly performance enhancing and is actually prescribed at times for injury recovery. CBD creams are very popular.
Your 'not exactly performance enhancing" should have given a little more perspecitve and the possible reasons why he is no longer here.
 
Joe with 5 INTs yesterday against FIU. He was 20-39 for 151 yards. On the plus side, he had two nice TD passes. The Panthers got thumped last week at Indiana, but obviously are a big step up from CCSU.
 
Lot's of arguing about the awesomeness of chronic ... which would make sense if THERE WAS ANY EVIDENCE THAT LABAS violated a law or team rule. Coach makes announcements all the time about a player being suspended or disciplined ... when did he make the announcement about Labas???

My take, whenever rumors that serve a HC-CYA narrative are being spread by anonymous 40yr old incels, I get an icky feeling inside.
 
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Lot's of arguing about the awesomeness of chronic ... which would make sense if THERE WAS ANY EVIDENCE THAT LABAS violated a law or team rule. Coach makes announcements all the time about a player being suspended or disciplined ... when did he make the announcement about Labas???

My take, whenever rumors that serve a HC-CYA narrative are being spread by anonymous 40yr old incels, I get an icky feeling inside.
So you're going with the assumption that loyal KF and staff, within weeks of Hill on campus, concluded that he was significantly better than Labas?

Seems reasonable 🤣
 
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