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Their attendance is so bad because a) the team has been in perpetual tank mode for decades, and b) they refused to do anything to their stadium that might make it a pleasant place to watch (or play in) a baseball game.Bottom Line: The A's average home attendance in Oakland
in 2022 was 8,283 fans. They needed to move to Vegas.
I last attended an A's game in person over 20 years ago and it wasn't a terribly accessible place then...unless you were getting there via the BART system and the clientele in, and around, the BART system was something that I think would cause many fans/families to avoid. I don't see where Oakland had any real possibility to improve that scene. A move is probably for the best IMO. I would go see them in LV.Their attendance is so bad because a) the team has been in perpetual tank mode for decades, and b) they refused to do anything to their stadium that might make it a pleasant place to watch (or play in) a baseball game.
I love the history of the A's but anywhere but Oakland. Las Vegas would surely be an improvement.I like the athletics in Oakland but they have to make money.
Buffalo Bisons/Tri-Cities Blackhawks (Moline, IL)/Milwaukee Hawks/St. Louis Hawks/Atlanta HawksPhilly, KC, Oakland, and now LV.
Most traveled franchise ever?
They should make it into a movie. Maybe a comedy. The storyline writes itself.The A's suck. The organization has made the decision to suck on purpose in order to help drive a narrative to move to another city where sap taxpayers will subsidize a stadium for them.
Moneyball and Major League mashup. I’m sure one could tie those stories together fairly easilyThey should make it into a movie. Maybe a comedy. The storyline writes itself.
Tough proposition when the support hasn’t been there. I would think Montreal is licking their chops. When the Rays see what Vegas does they are going to get aggressive.I love the history of the A's but anywhere but Oakland. Las Vegas would surely be an improvement.
Just like I love my Tampa Bay Rays, but anywhere other than the abomination that is Tropicana field. There cannot be even an intentionally a worse venue for baseball. St Petersburgh is an awesome town but nobody who lives in that area is willing to take that drive for 50-60 times a year. Bite the bullet and get Publix to help build an open air stadium somewhere east of the bay preferably Manatee county.
There was a lot of talk about this during the 3 game series the Cubs just swept in Oakland.Oakland is down now but they have been very good over last 35 years
Developers don't care, and MLB owners don't care. That's a somebody else (The govimint), problem.Vegas is such a pile of garbage too. The lack of water will stop it in its tracks at some point.
No we are not building a pipeline to Lake Michigan so we can keep sprawling.
There was a lot of talk about this during the 3 game series the Cubs just swept in Oakland.
The A's rolled out a bad AAA roster for this series. The other owners should demand an ownership change in Oakland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay... Get owners in who want to win instead of riding on the strength of the other teams.
Tough proposition when the support hasn’t been there. I would think Montreal is licking their chops. When the Rays see what Vegas does they are going to get aggressive.
Sternberg has had his sights elsewhere for a long time. Some of it was a bluff to get a stadium approved, some of it was real. Charlotte, Vegas, San Antonio, Montreal, plus others have all been considered since 2007 or so. The Trop lease slowed down a lot of these plans for a number of years, thankfully that concern is pretty much gone now. But the concern re: if you build it, will they come(?), is very real, as Miami has shown.I love the history of the A's but anywhere but Oakland. Las Vegas would surely be an improvement.
Just like I love my Tampa Bay Rays, but anywhere other than the abomination that is Tropicana field. There cannot be even an intentionally a worse venue for baseball. St Petersburgh is an awesome town but nobody who lives in that area is willing to take that drive for 50-60 times a year. Bite the bullet and get Publix to help build an open air stadium somewhere east of the bay preferably Manatee county.
I agree on most if not all of your points. But a stadium on the eastern side of Tampa bay would certainly make it easier to build a fanbase in the region. Hell it takes nearly the same time to drive from Brooksville to Brandon as it does From Brandon to the Trop.Sternberg has had his sights elsewhere for a long time. Some of it was a bluff to get a stadium approved, some of it was real. Charlotte, Vegas, San Antonio, Montreal, plus others have all been considered since 2007 or so. The Trop lease slowed down a lot of these plans for a number of years, thankfully that concern is pretty much gone now. But the concern re: if you build it, will they come(?), is very real, as Miami has shown.
Personally I don't think a baseball team in the Tampa area will ever consistently draw great crowds, at least not until multiple generations have experienced the highs and lows of fandom. Seems like the majority of the Tampa-area residents are from some city that has had a baseball team for 100 years (NYC/Boston/Chicago/etc.), so they don't support the Rays.
That said, they may not have to, with the big money in tv, and the Rays having decent tv ratings, maybe that's enough to keep them in the area. In any case, the answer to the Rays conundrum is coming very soon. Fascinating stuff.
Um, you sure you want to include Tampa Bay in that group? That's probably the best run organization in all of professional sports. Just have a crappy stadium and fan base (which makes it that much more impressive).There was a lot of talk about this during the 3 game series the Cubs just swept in Oakland.
The A's rolled out a bad AAA roster for this series. The other owners should demand an ownership change in Oakland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay... Get owners in who want to win instead of riding on the strength of the other teams.
Stop putting a crappy product on the field in a crappy stadium. The owners suck.I like the athletics in Oakland but they have to make money.
Yes. The organization is amazingly well run, and has survived having multiple execs and scouts being poached by other organizations. The ownership is running a scam.Um, you sure you want to include Tampa Bay in that group? That's probably the best run organization in all of professional sports. Just have a crappy stadium and fan base (which makes it that much more impressive).
Al Davis ruined What was a really nice baseball stadium. Been downhill ever since then for the A’s…Stop putting a crappy product on the field in a crappy stadium. The owners suck.
Just asking but isn't the Oakland coliseum the last of the true multi purpose venues left?Al Davis ruined What was a really nice baseball stadium. Been downhill ever since then for the A’s…