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Liberals in la-la land: High wages, 32-hour workweeks sound great, but there's a steep price

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Irecently had a layover at the Minneapolis-Saint Paul airport on my way to visit my parents in Oregon, so I stopped at McDonald’s for a quick bite. Rather than being greeted by a human cashier, I was met with a hall of self-serve kiosks, where I placed my order and paid for it.

Expect to see a lot more machines and far fewer human workers in states and cities that are artificially driving up the cost of employees through higher minimum wages.

“The government seems stuck on this way of fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed,” Brian Wesbury, chief economist at First Trust Advisors, told me. “It messes up the marketplace, and businesses attempt to find a way around it because these are not market-based wages – and today with robotics and computers they can. So it ends up hurting people.”

While efficient, automation like those ordering screens at the Minneapolis airport is emblematic of what happens when the government distorts the marketplace with a heavy-handed regulatory approach.

Minneapolis has mandated a $15.57 hourly minimum wage – more than twice the federal minimum wage of $7.25 – for large employers, but that wage will apply to all businesses starting this summer. While the airport isn’t technically part of any city, its employers are no doubt forced to offer comparable wages to attract workers.

High wages are having other effects, too. Minneapolis residents will soon be out of luck if they want to call an Uber or a Lyft. Both companies are leaving town in May after the ultra-liberal city council (several of the 13 are declared socialists) applied the minimum wage to drivers, overriding the mayor’s veto. The companies said the mandate makes operations in the city unsustainable.

So in the effort to increase pay for drivers, the city council effectively will strip thousands of jobs and leave many people without transportation.

As Democratic Mayor Jacob Frey said in an interview, “Getting a raise doesn’t do a whole lot of good if you lose your job.”

Nice work, Minneapolis.

California hikes minimum wage, employers lay people off​

Then there’s California. In what should have been an April Fools’ joke, a law requiring fast-food workers at large chains to earn $20 a hour took effect April 1.

Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, signed the law last year. Obviously, businesses aren’t happy because it's bad for their bottom lines.

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Newsom admitted as much when he tried to give his buddy Greg Flynn, who runs Panera Bread franchises in California, a loophole from the law. Flynn is a big Newsom donor, and Newsom had demanded a curious exemption to the law for restaurants “making in-house bread.”

After the justified uproar that Flynn was getting special favors, he has said he’ll abide by the higher wage.

It’s no surprise that even before the new minimum wage became reality, restaurants started planning layoffs. For instance, Pizza Hut has said it will cut more than 1,000 delivery jobs. Many more are following suit.

As any economist could have predicted, these businesses are having to downsize their workforce, reduce hours and raise prices. That’s what happens when the government meddles in the private market.

It’s hard to see how this benefits anyone in the long run. Minimum wage jobs have traditionally existed to give people an entry point into the work world, but government-driven inflated wages will take those opportunities away from inexperienced workers.

And this government intervention ignores that workers have more choices than ever.

“It’s such a competitive marketplace and unemployment is so low that if you’re disappointed in the job in either the culture or the wage or the working conditions, you can move,” Wesbury said.

Less work for same pay? Welcome to Bernie’s world.​

You can always count on Congress’ resident socialist, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, to come up with truly wild (and costly) ideas. He’s a constant pusher of “free” college, student debt forgiveness and high minimum wages.

Sanders also says Americans deserve a 32-hour work week. Employers would be forced to continue paying workers the same pay and benefits as they get for working 40 hours. And he’s not just thinking about it – he’s introduced a bill.

Sounds pretty darn good, I have to say.

Unfortunately, in the real world, companies would have to make adjustments to afford this cushy new employee benefit. Employers would either have to hire more workers or lose out on productivity, and consumers would face higher prices as a result. Other unintended consequences would surely follow.


Bottom line: The private sector works best when the government gets out of the way. It’s a lesson liberals never seem to learn.

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Maybe workers wouldn't be so pissed if the wage curve wasn't so decoupled from productvity gains.

Also, those kiosks would still be at McDonald's regardless of government wage shenanigans. Business decisions are made at the margin - McDonald's would have still seen an opportunity to invest in technology and save wage costs, either as a direct savings or cost avoidance from higher wages.
 
Minimum wage:

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When McDonald’s already pays $14-$15 an hour in Iowa does it really matter?

What jobs currently pay minimum wage?
 
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Minimum wage:

2009 - 7.25
2010 - 7.25
2011 - 7.25
2012 - 7.25
2013 - 7.25
2014 - 7.25
2015 - 7.25
2016 - 7.25
2017 - 7.25
2018 - 7.25
2019 - 7.25
2020 - 7.25
2021 - 7.25
2022 - 7.25
2023 - 7.25
2024 - 7.25
It's almost like an unlimited supply of minimum wage workers constantly pour into the equation.......
 
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As of Monday, fast food workers in California will make $20/hour.
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I feel like 12.50 would be a good average, maybe higher in some areas, a bit lower in others. CMS pays out different to healthcare providers.
 
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Maybe if we hadn't been flooding the labor pool with cheap, unskilled labor for the last 40 years, wages might have risen naturally with the cost of living.
 
As of Monday, fast food workers in California will make $20/hour.
Now do cost of living.

I make a decent salary here in KC. The same job in Cali would pay 50-60% more, easily. Unfortunately, my house would cost 4-5 times more.
 
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Fun fact: the MSP Airport is located in an unincorporated area of Fort Snelling, and would not be subject to the minimum wage regulations of the city of Minneapolis.

But it’s a valiant attempt to be outraged by the use of kiosks in fast food restaurants - which have been in use for years.
 
Your typical fast food worker wouldn't even understand that sentence much less actually feel the pain of producing more burgers without a commensurable increase in wages.
I don't really understand comments like this, seems pretty demeaning and judgmental.

I worked in a restaurant for five years when I was in high school and came home from college for breaks. While it wasn't fast food, it was pretty close as it was a buffet, but still with lots of homemade stuff, locally owned. I made $2.85-$3.35/hour during my time there which was minimum wage at the time.

There were people that worked there full-time. It was their job, it was how they supported their families. They took their jobs seriously and largely took pride in their work. They were good, honest, respectable people. Perhaps they didn't aspire to college, leaving the small-town life, more money, etc. Perhaps they were happy doing what they were doing. I don't see anything wrong with it and personally don't think it is something to look down upon.

It doesn't seem like too much to ask to get paid a respectable wage and to be able to live off it, especially if you're working full-time.
 
To the guy who wrote the opinion piece, the private sector doesn't work better when government gets out of the way. What ends up happening is everyone gets screwed except for companies and the CEOs/BoD. There has to be some government oversight/limitations in place to prevent that.

Teddy R understood this
 
To the guy who wrote the opinion piece, the private sector doesn't work better when government gets out of the way. What ends up happening is everyone gets screwed except for companies and the CEOs/BoD. There has to be some government oversight/limitations in place to prevent that.

Teddy R understood this
That's the most important part. "Some" not "complete". Corporations need to be held in check, not held down.
 
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I know republicans want all the gays dead? You're legitimately insane.

No, but republicans have killed many gay people in the US simply for being gay.

Stop being obtuse and stretching every statement to ridiculous ends.
 
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