There was also a fair amount of attrition, primarily due to injuries but also a couple of transfers. Several factors contributed to the decline in the OL.
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Boom! Now we're getting somewhere!
It's was actually quite an unfair amount of attrition.
But good job, Band Man
I also recall KF saying they had reduced number of o line schollys for a short term and recruited elsewhere...
interesting note earlier in this thread where someone brought up the talent we had in 2000-2005 or so--we were talking about that earlier this year during a pregame on the viseo board they were putting up all the all americans in the KF era and the people we had from 2002-2005.
I for one say losing reese morgan hurt iowa in a lot more ways than just what he coached but in player evaluations as well. I feel the decline in our o line started when he was moved ot d line, plus when they are in the recruiting war room Reese was extremely acute at identifying talent.
Those that do not feel that attrition is a large factor look at it this way--I know one of the o linemen--he is young and moved into a backup roll in just his second year--did not play much at all--but he was told by the staff they did not think he would contribute until his third yr. so he is a year ahead of where they thought he would be.
This is the thought process behind making of an o line--sure we would love to have 5 --5 star that could start as freshman but for the rest of us--we need to get some talent in the room and build it up...takes time.
No the O line is trash against good teams. Some is trash qb talent and play calling
Even if it is trash against good teams, which is questionable, that doesn't make it trash overall.
Yes, significant complication from the '23 QB.
Play calling quite overrated in it all
"Overall all tho over the last decade Iowa has been a “hard nose blue collar” program which is a nice way of saying average"
Just an FYI a google search for the most wins in cfb over the last decade finds that Iowa is
| 16 | Iowa | 8 | 7 | 12 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 6 | 10 | 8 | 86 |
Ready for the 'soft out of conference schedule' - pretty similar to most
'but they played in the weak big ten west' certainly the other big ten west schools must be above them.
Under perform against the big boys? Yup. Average? The numbers don't support that.
Good post.
Actually haven't even underperformed vs the big boys over the 26 years.
People want to make a big deal of the recent struggles against the top dogs. Is it a sign that the program is in trouble? There really isn't any evidence of that, as Iowa continues to beat the rest. And it really doesn't make sense to make conclusions about a program based on how they perform against the very best of competition anyway.
People who study patterns would not consider a sample size of a few or even handful of years to be very significant. Take roulette for example. The color red is projected to win just under 50% over time. I've seen a board with 29 red in a row. Similar with the game baccarat. The "banker" hand is projected to win just under 50% over time. I've seen a board with 31 in a row "banker". There can be great variance from expectation in the short term.
Then you have to factor in that Iowa clearly fell upon a challenging patch the last few years that started with the factors discussed in this thread that retarded the O-line. All of that is an outlier rather than the norm.
KF should have had people's trust and respect over 20 years ago
Logan Jones set strength records early. With that said, he had weight to gain and learn a new position.
They did try with Proctor and that other massive guy that also decommitted.
Iowa’s offensive line has been incredibly soft for five years.
Read the thread much?Iowa’s offensive line has been incredibly soft for five years.
Nothing incredible about it. All pretty straightforward.
And 5 years is definitely an exaggeration. The line is no longer soft. And struggles seemed to start surfacing at the last of the '21 season with injuries compounded by a back who chose to save his hits for the pros and discontinued fighting for short gains
That was two years ago.
Not all necessarily fat, but not strong enough.
Workout and eat all the time and you become stronger, a Joe Moore semi-finalist, and lead the league in rushing.
Read the thread much?
My impression of the run game success was 75% KJ and 25% improvement in the performance of the OL.
If the line was that good, we wouldn’t have settled for 2 field goals against that cyclones, first and goal from the one and three respectively
Well, the Joe Moore nominators must have missed those few plays.
It also would have been helpful to have run the ball those plays
Right , if you remember we chose to throw the ball on most of the plays in the two series where we had first and goal from the 2. The first time we did make a poor decision to run from the shotgun with the ball on the 2 and we lost 5 yards . We should have gotten under center and pounded it in there 3 plays in a row if necessary
50% KJ/25% scheme/25% line play
75% K2, huh?
That's not how football works.
It's been explained in this thread and for 150 years.
21-14, Hawks in the 2nd Q
Still my impression.
27 - 24 Missouri
2nd and 3rd down runs for no or little yardage all second half. When Dunker went out, the game changed. DeJong is consistent. Can’t run block, can’t pass block, doesn’t look like he knows his assignment.
O line was great today. 170 yards by our 2 backup running backs in 23 carries against an SEC defensive line.
I could probably list about 100 different things this offense did the last handful of years to set the OL up for failure. OL obviously needs to play better but what Iowa has expected them to do with how they go about things especially under Brian Ferentz was ridiculous. High School teams in the state I scout aren’t even tendency heavy like Iowa was and that’s just the limited numbers leaked. I can’t imagine how much worse they tipped their hands with more detailed reports.
@eyesofhawk I'm sure your vast superior knowledge of not only the game but both OL and DL just blows everyone’s away. Including those of us who’ve coached it for years. I’m also pretty sure you said something about wheel routes not working Vs zone so clearly I’m dealing with someone who knows more than anyone on the board.
How is it that your backup center can't make a consistent decent snap in a shotgun formation?
Just curious why upperclassmen can't develop amy semblance of pass protection after 3/4/5 years?
Just curious why upperclassmen can't develop amy semblance of pass protection after 3/4/5 years?
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