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Lineups Settled: ISU v. Iowa: Who Wins?

Outside of this dual, it will be interesting next year and beyond to see how the Clone lineup shakes out in the future.
They have a decent, relatively young group but so many have already used the redhirt and there are logjams all over the place, which hints that they're not planning very well, recruiting wise.
That would certainly confirm rumored problems with guys not being happy by being urged/forced to cut a lot of weight.
The portal out could be an issue this spring.
They need to get either Swid or Ech back down to 141 and it works OK. Next year:

125: Castillo
133: Frost
141: Swid/Ech
149: Ech/Swid
157: Paniro
165: Chittum
174: Gaitan
184/197: Question?
HWT: Carroll

They need to address 184 and 197, but otherwise, the lineup look pretty good. Again, though, it depends on Swid and Ech taking 141/149.
 
They need to get either Swid or Ech back down to 141 and it works OK. Next year:

125: Castillo
133: Frost
141: Swid/Ech
149: Ech/Swid
157: Paniro
165: Chittum
174: Gaitan
184/197: Question?
HWT: Carroll

They need to address 184 and 197, but otherwise, the lineup look pretty good. Again, though, it depends on Swid and Ech taking 141/149.
Carroll has tried the heavyweight deal and it does not work out well for him. They will have Carroll at 197 and then have Hererra or Sawyer Bartelt at 285. 184 is probably going to be a hole that ISU looks to plug with a portal guy. Bartelt wrestling 215 in high school so I do not think 184 is in the cards for him to Dresser has guys pulling some serious weight so maybe...
 
I think he is more worried about finding the clock that shows riding time during a match.

Cause obviously putting the asst. coaches in charge of that didn't work.

But hey...he got a contract extension!
Kinda shows shows just how low the bar has been set.
Pollard don’t give a shit bout wrestling, grew up in Ames, talked to him personally. So any kinda success is a plus. Let dresser and the goon squad keep blowing it.
 
Carroll has tried the heavyweight deal and it does not work out well for him. They will have Carroll at 197 and then have Hererra or Sawyer Bartelt at 285. 184 is probably going to be a hole that ISU looks to plug with a portal guy. Bartelt wrestling 215 in high school so I do not think 184 is in the cards for him to Dresser has guys pulling some serious weight so maybe...

I believe the prevailing thought is that it will be difficult for Carroll to hold 197 for very many more seasons.
 
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parco echemendia are too similar on the feet. parco wins on riding time or toss up with who can score a takedown. will be a snoozer of a match
 
The frosts transferred to Iowa for their senior year of high school, from Louisiana. So not sure this is the case
They were in Sebolts room the summer before SR year and until they left for Ames. They definitely trained together
 
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Word is some recruits/transfers and families are quite upset about being sold one thing on the program, then realizing it was lie with all the drunken escapades from the athletes and staff going unchecked by the HC, stolen and totaled vehicles, poaching, the demands of weight cuts, injuries, and lack of any decent medical training/nutritionists.

That reads like some paid Iowa State haters stuff right there. Is there a Cyclone board you can post it too as a Mineo tweet?
 
That reads like some paid Iowa State haters stuff right there. Is there a Cyclone board you can post it too as a Mineo tweet?
go away GIF by MANGOTEETH
 
Wait til you hear KDs presser saying Iowa played within the rules all the while he wasn’t. Goofball is the biggest snake in the game and is seething with envy….

He’s been completely exposed. The only leg he has left with recruits and transfers is “hey you hate Iowa and Brands?!? Yeah?! We do too! Please come help us beat them!”

Absolute clown.
 
Wait til you hear KDs presser saying Iowa played within the rules all the while he wasn’t. Goofball is the biggest snake in the game and is seething with envy….

He’s been completely exposed. The only leg he has left with recruits and transfers is “hey you hate Iowa and Brands?!? Yeah?! We do too! Please come help us beat them!”

Absolute clown.

For those interested Dresser talks about Iowa portal wrestlers at 8:20.
 
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Wait til you hear KDs presser saying Iowa played within the rules all the while he wasn’t. Goofball is the biggest snake in the game and is seething with envy….

He’s been completely exposed. The only leg he has left with recruits and transfers is “hey you hate Iowa and Brands?!? Yeah?! We do too! Please come help us beat them!”

Absolute clown.
There's a reason he's so heavily invested in the Cuban wrestlers.
They don't know his reputation .
 
It's not a well kept secret.
I heard on Stalemates some reference to Terukina's traffic troubles, but that is it. Zach is a big Iowa State fan, so he probably wants to stay away from negative Cyclone tea. Might've been Hager busting his balls on the podcast.
 
I heard on Stalemates some reference to Terukina's traffic troubles, but that is it. Zach is a big Iowa State fan, so he probably wants to stay away from negative Cyclone tea. Might've been Hager busting his balls on the podcast.
Terukina also had issues with his court appearances/probation, etc.

As I said before, Ames PD and Story County deputies knows some of these wrestlers.
 
Wait til you hear KDs presser saying Iowa played within the rules all the while he wasn’t. Goofball is the biggest snake in the game and is seething with envy….

He’s been completely exposed. The only leg he has left with recruits and transfers is “hey you hate Iowa and Brands?!? Yeah?! We do too! Please come help us beat them!”

Absolute clown.
But does/ will this pitch actually work to his advantage?
 
My wife and I are headed to the Iowa city hospital tomorrow night for the birth of our first kid. I just casually let her know if she takes her time and we are there through Saturday night I could just slip down to Carver for the dual, hmm shockingly didn’t go over really well.

Checking in! how did it go?

it's amazing, you don't think you could love anyone the way you do when that baby comes out. I remember almost punching the doctor because I thought he slapped my daughter too hard. I was PISSED.
 

For those interested Dresser talks about Iowa portal wrestlers at 8:20.
I do agree it seems so transactional, which I don’t particularly like, but those are the rules. And if Dresser had the opportunity to pick up Teemer, Parco, and Buchanan this past offseason, you know he would have done it too. He wouldn’t have been doing his job if he didn’t.

Also, when you hear Teemer talk about his experience at Iowa so far, I get the feeling he’s not just pleased with the bag he received. So we know it’s not just about the money.
 
They have plenty of room guys. They just have more horses than anyone else.

You missed the joke/reference.

I do agree it seems so transactional, which I don’t particularly like, but those are the rules. And if Dresser had the opportunity to pick up Teemer, Parco, and Buchanan this past offseason, you know he would have done it too. He wouldn’t have been doing his job if he didn’t.

Also, when you hear Teemer talk about his experience at Iowa so far, I get the feeling he’s not just pleased with the bag he received. So we know it’s not just about the money.

He has multiple guys on his roster that he picked up due to the portal/NIL. He would kill to have the ability to do more there.
 
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The date is wrong it's actually from Nov 5 before the Stanford dual. Go to the 8 min mar

You missed the joke/reference.



He has multiple guys on his roster that he picked up due to the portal/NIL. He would kill to have the ability to do more there.
The dude has a Cuban coach on staff just to be a translator. He has zero room to talk.
 
Wait til you hear KDs presser saying Iowa played within the rules all the while he wasn’t. Goofball is the biggest snake in the game and is seething with envy….

He’s been completely exposed. The only leg he has left with recruits and transfers is “hey you hate Iowa and Brands?!? Yeah?! We do too! Please come help us beat them!”

Absolute clown.
Short summary for those that don't want to waste their time. It was a good laugh while driving today. KD is such a clown.
Dresser: Referencing one of his guys. It's early in the year so I don't want to send a guy out there that's a little banged up .
Dresser: Referencing Paniro Ya he was hurting going into Grandview wrestled 4 matches and hurt it a little more. Translation: I don't care if we lose to Stanford or Ok State as long as we beat Iowa.
Dresser referencing Iowa: A few guys just happened to show up over there thanks to Bob. No mention of Carrol, the wife choker, or the 84 they brought in last year. Or the numerous other guys such as AJ they tried to bring in the last 2 years.

Dresser: I prefer bringing guys in and developing them. That's a better story.
Dresser: Every March we quit coaching and go kiss ass trying to get money to buy transfers. Attention rich fans, I will let you sit beside me during meets and ride on our plane. You can own me and the team if you give enough money.
Dresser: I prefer recruiting and developing guys.
 
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