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Los Angeles On Fire

Imagine if you will a situation where 1000 homes are on fire at the same time in Des Moines. Then, to top that off, 50 mph winds are whipping those fires in all directions.

Do any of you dipsticks think Des Moines FD is "prepared" for that? Do you think they have enough trucks/people/water to handle?

Just naive, gullible sheep as far as the eye can see in this thread, bleating and repeating what their rich overlords want them to repeat.
Good points
The geography and climate they live in play a huge roll in this disaster.
People wanting to politicize every disaster are the SOTE. People will use anything these days to try and elevate their political views above others.
Glad I stay out of it.
 
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The long term effects of this fire will be enormous and not just felt in California.
Get ready for higher prices on appliances when the rebuilding starts, for example. Lumber? $$$$
I HOPE it starts a serious revamp of the insurance industry.
I’m thinking I need to buy stock in HomeDepot and maybe Georgia Pacific? Weyerhaeuser?
We get a lot of lumber from Canada. Rethink a trade war/tariff kerfluffle? Or else risk paying $50 for an 8 foot long 2x4?
Lots to think about once the fires are out. Will Cali make the rebuilding process streamlined? Those folks may need to take a look at several things that have developed since many of the older homes were built. Code issues, materials required etc.
Expect lots of conversations about this.
Yep.
We like to think in the Midwest we are immune to the effects of things like hurricanes, and wildfires.
We usually forget that when disasters happen in other parts of the country we are ultimately affected in our wallets.
I fully expect to have my home insurance go up even though I'm 2.5k-3k miles from any hurricane zone, earthquake zone, or high risk fire zone. Minnesota is fairly protected as far as disasters go but you're right, we will all feel the pain in the coming months.
 
You retard. Go look up the reservoir levels in SoCal. At or above normal. The smelt controversy in Central CA had nothing to do with dry hydrants experienced at times fighting these fires. That was due to problems keeping water tanks filled properly refreshed during unprecedented times of need. That's an infrastructure problem that had existed for many decades but likely was not tested until this extreme event.
Could building a few more reservoirs after 1970 possibly helped?
Just askin.
 
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lol so stupid. Again, anybody can post anything on twitter. Some video clip shared without anything linking it back to a place and time and incident could be from anywhere. That's only happened a million times on twitter.

And my news story was a great example of why you don't jump to conclusions on shit.
 
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This situation? No, not really, because they had all the water they needed, just didn't have ability to deliver it.

That was the problem.
So the civil engineers saying one being out of water and offline was a major contributor in no water hydrant pressure are FOS?
Thanks.
 
So the civil engineers saying one being out of water and offline was a major contributor in no water hydrant pressure are FOS?
Thanks.
Go read something. The tanks were being depleted faster than they could be replenished. That doesn't mean the water wasn't there. That means they couldn't move it through the system fast enough.

Thanks
 
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I swear, some of the ****ing numpties on these board would ask a paramedic what their orientation is while getting CPR - as if that makes them any less qualified. It's the same idiots re-tweeting the same far right losers, End Wokeness, Babylon Bee etc. They're sitting at home safely trying to fearmonger their base while others are out risking their lives fighting fires and questioning their motives. Is there anything more disgusting?
 
This situation? No, not really, because they had all the water they needed, just didn't have ability to deliver it.

That was the problem.

Go read something. The tanks were being depleted faster than they could be replenished. That doesn't mean the water wasn't there. That means they couldn't move it through the system fast enough.

My understanding is on the first day, first use many hydrants were bone dry. Routine testing of the hydrants had not been done.

If it is an infrastructure problem why was that allowed to persist? Why were there no fire breaks? Why so little dead brush removal?

Are you maintaining there was no mismanagement by state and local officials?
 
This here for a day dude has to be the dumbest, most miserable human being on this site and it isn't close.

Not one of you bleating sheep has explained how Des Moines could handle 1000 fires at once - you just come back with the 'well, we wouldn't have run out of water' or some other BS repeat loop of BS crap their pied pipers of Fox/Newsmax/alternate reality Trumpyverse overlords are spouting. As if having water in those hydrants was going to stop this catastrophe.

Unreal how little cognitive ability/critical thinking skills these dolts have. Trump is an absolute cancer to this society. Not the only cancer, but the most fükking prominent. He's made it celebratory for the dumbest people to gloat about and wallow in their own ignorance and dumbfükery.

Pathetic, the lot of you pukes.
 
This here for a day dude has to be the dumbest, most miserable human being on this site and it isn't close.

Not one of you bleating sheep has explained how Des Moines could handle 1000 fires at once - you just come back with the 'well, we wouldn't have run out of water' or some other BS repeat loop of BS crap their pied pipers of Fox/Newsmax/alternate reality Trumpyverse overlords are spouting. As if having water in those hydrants was going to stop this catastrophe.

Unreal how little cognitive ability/critical thinking skills these dolts have. Trump is an absolute cancer to this society. Not the only cancer, but the most fükking prominent. He's made it celebratory for the dumbest people to gloat about and wallow in their own ignorance and dumbfükery.

Pathetic, the lot of you pukes.

“And don’t believe [Democratic Los Angeles Mayor] Karen Bass when she says that an airplane with water could have saved lives in the Palisades. It’s pipes. It’s proper water. It’s not diverting water for fish in California instead of saving human lives,” Claypool continued. “You want to save human lives? Then do your job and have a — have a plan in place. Harris, there was not an operational plan in place anywhere in L.A. County to help with this.”
 
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My understanding is on the first day, first use many hydrants were bone dry. Routine testing of the hydrants had not been done.

If it is an infrastructure problem why was that allowed to persist? Why were there no fire breaks? Why so little dead brush removal?

Are you maintaining there was no mismanagement by state and local officials?
Your point? We don't have 1:1 ratios between water tanks and hydrants. Many hydrants to one tank. They could've been dry because the tank was losing pressure due to other fire fighting efforts.

City officials came out and said there was a problem with keeping the tanks replenished. (hence dry hydrants)

It looks like an infrastructure problem for the dry hydrants. I'm sure it has been a big risk for decades. Probably because A) they hadn't had the worst-case-scenario we're seeing now, B) it would be extremely costly to do, C) it would be extremely time consuming and potentially disruptive to city life.

Basically all the same reasons an old bridge is left in place. (until it starts falling apart)

Fire breaks would have had limited effect in this scenario give you had extreme winds raining down embers on houses near the ocean from the hills 100s of feet above them.

They do clear brush and have ordinances surrounding this issue. What evidence do we have that this was a big issue?

But this is what you were dealing with. (see below) Clearing the hills of brush was not a feasible thing to do. LA made a mistake when they allowed people to move out into the hills.

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