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*****MAGA in disarray, who will be speaker of the House***** McCarthy REMOVED! Jim Jordan 0-3. Election denier Mike Johnson confirmed. Vote them out
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I wouldn't. Kevin was really really bad at his job. He took every deadline to the edge and we were only stopped because the Dems had to pull us back. We are better off without incompetence like this.
They're just really bad humans. All spite and grievances.
So that's your threat? Keep Kevin because his replacement will be even worse? How about this? Stop voting Republican. It's clear they can't lead.
I guarantee I won't. Because the Rs are shit with or without Kevin.
But now, Gaetz and his faction are only eight members deep. While they were successful in getting McCarthy out, I doubt they'll have the votes to install the Speaker of their choice.That's fair. It wasn't the D's responsibility to save McCarthy.
But here we are.
McCarthy made his own bed by acquiescing to the "one dipshit" can tank the speaker rule.
My main concern is this whole thing puts continued Ukraine support in serious doubt. Gaetz basically made Ukraine aid his predicate for tossing McCarthy. It's why he and his crew voted down McCarthy's original CR last week.
McCarthy need D votes to keep his job...
Gaetz needed pretty much all the D's on board to toss him.
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Gaetz won. He got what he wanted...
Just dealing with reality Huey.
No R will take the Speaker of the House job with the "one idiot can bring up the vote to vacate rule" in place.
Only way Gaetz and crew agree to that is if the new speaker is a no on Ukraine.
Which has been my main concern in this whole shit show.
We'll see....but from my perspective the replacement is pretty likely to be worse on the matter of Ukraine.
Republicans will have to own the replacement come election time.
Yet as we see with your responses, it is always the D’s fault that McCarthy couldnt control his caucus
Do you understand why the Democrats did not support McCarthy?
After he reneged on deals they'd made with him....??
They have the votes to block any speaker they don't want....aka any pro Ukraine speaker.
Not the D's fault.
They weren't forced to vote with Matt Gaetz though.
It was a political decision and I understand that. I just think when all is said and done we'll end up with someone worse on Ukriane which is may main concern.
If the R's nominate a centrist, they might actually get some Dem votes to clean the mess up.
But they won't. Because the extremists are who are controlling their party and their voters.
Fair.
Unfortunately by polling data they won't take much of a hit. If Ukraine support polling continues to decline they may take no hit in 2024.
Ha, they can't govern and are a disgrace regardless. It's taking a hit.
Thank You, Matt Geatz
You took names and kicked ass. You revealed to ALL that you are strong enough to call out the cowards, rinos of Washington DC. You've made our forefathers proud.
JFC. Mental midget opines.
The temporary guy looks and acts like a monumental tight ass. I feel sorry for the people who are stuck dealing with him.
Duh. But you keep glossing over that this was inevitable, precisely because McCarthy was unwilling to deal with Dems in good faith.
Exactly, this was always going to happen.
This represented a golden chance for McCarthy to rally the majority of his caucus against Gaetz, MTG and the radicals. Cut a deal with Dems, offer some policy concessions and actually be the Speaker. Rather than the feckless puppet he actually was.
Instead he established that he is possibly the worst Speaker in American history.
This is the reality. If R’s really wanted out of this shit show they’d be reaching across the aisle to find a solution that can nullify the loony tunes. As much as @binsfeldcyhawk2 wants to make it the D’s problem, the R’s could likely make the Freedom Caucus a non-issue if they’d be willing to negotiate. And if I were the R’s - taking away those dip shit's power would be worth every concession.
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I'm concerned but see post 1508, @sober_teacher nailed it
How? Ukraine got no funding in the last bill. What's worse then? The Rs funding Putin?
I don't think so. A pro Ukraine speaker may have the support of the Democrats meaning the GOP votes needed to elect him/her would be minimal. The Democrats are really in a good position.
Unfortunately, America is in a really bad position to deal with any immediate military or economic crises at the moment....
This just goes to show how petty the GQP members really are and this includes their constituents.
That's the gavel slam of a guy that's been wanting to do that his whole life
If Fox gets hit by the second defamation suit and dies off, and the lessons sink into to other sewer networks, the airways will clear of much of the propaganda and lies that have permeated society.
There was funding in the CR that Gaetz and crew tanked last week.
Kind of wish this article came out a couple days ago...
Questions arise over U.S. aid to Ukraine after McCarthy ouster; Russia, Ukraine down dozens of drones
The dramatic ouster of U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has raised questions about the future of the country's supply of aid to Ukraine.
The dramatic ouster of U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has raised questions about the future of the country’s supply of aid to Ukraine.
McCarthy, who has previously backed U.S. support for Ukraine, was removed in a no confidence vote led by members of his own party on Tuesday.
That comes amid a growing divide within the Republican party over the continuation of U.S. aid. The U.S. is by far the biggest provider of military aid to Ukraine.
Lawmakers earlier in the week suggested McCarthy arranged a standalone vote on Ukrainian aid with President Joe Biden in order to pass a government spending bill which did not contain provisions. McCarthy denied there had been a so-called “secret side deal.”
“President Biden made clear we cannot, under any circumstances, allow America’s support for Ukraine to be interrupted,” White House national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters, according to a Reuters report. He was referring to Biden’s call with allied leaders Tuesday.
This would be so ideal.
