The analogy makes complete sense. It’s the same thing people say for football on a bad/wet playing field or crappy conditions, where both teams have the same “issue,” and it equalizes the playing field.
March 12 ESPN Bracketology (Final Edition): IOWA remains an 8 Seed (in Birmingham). Bracket Matrix has them as a 9 Seed
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We're not talking a wet playing field.
If both teams are equally tired, that doesn't just make everything else equal. Iowa didn't lose to Richmond because of tired legs.
You can't say tired legs effects one team but not the other.
You say Iowa lost because they shot poorly and played bad defense. Can you at least agree the likelihood of bad shooting and poor defense increases when players are tired?
Go Hawks
As of this morning, there are only 7 teams in the country with more combined Q1 and Q2 wins than Iowa at 13.
Total Q1/Q2 wins:
Kansas - 19
Alabama -16
UCLA - 15
Purdue - 15
Baylor - 15
Texas - 14
Arizona - 14
Iowa - 13
Total Q1/Q2 wins:
Kansas - 19
Alabama -16
UCLA - 15
Purdue - 15
Baylor - 15
Texas - 14
Arizona - 14
Iowa - 13
Looks like Joe Lunardi is updating his bracket daily now. Not much change from yesterday.
97 brackets in Bracket Matrix, however, currently have Iowa as a #7 seed.
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Link to the full ESPN bracket:
97 brackets in Bracket Matrix, however, currently have Iowa as a #7 seed.
Link:
Link to the full ESPN bracket:
Men's Bracketology: How the Fighting Illini pulled off a surprise reboot
No one expected much from Illinois this year. But the Illini could have a shot at a No. 1 seed.
www.espn.com
Speaking of ending up in Des Moines and Dave Ommen (the founder of Bracketville), as of this morning, March 4, he has Iowa as a 7 seed in the South Region-Louisville facing #10 seed Boise State in Des Moines with the winner playing #2 Kansas State/#15 Kennesaw State.
Penn State is his last team in. Michigan is his 4th team OUT.
He has 10 B1G teams in:
1 Purdue (#4 overall seed)
4 Indiana (#13 overall seed)
6 Michigan State (#23 overall seed)
7 IOWA (#25 overall seed)
7 Northwestern (#26 overall seed)
8 Maryland (#30 overall seed)
8 Illinois (#32 overall seed)
10 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) (#39 overall seed)
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 in) (#45 overall seed)
11 Penn State (LAST team in) (#46 overall seed)
Link:
Dave’s Bracket
This is where you will find my bracket projections for the 2025 NCAA Tournament. At the time of publication, the bracket reflects an overview of where the NCAA landscape currently stands. Bra…
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Iowa currently has 5 Quad 1 wins. Kansas leads the country with 15! Purdue leads the B1G with 9.
Here's a list of schools sorted by the number of Quad 1 wins (29 total schools):
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Rank..Previous..Record...Road..Neutral..Home..Quad1...Quad 2...Quad 3...Quad 4
| 6 | 6 | Kansas | Big 12 | 25-5 | 7-3 | 3-1 | 15-1 | 15-5 | 4-0 | 3-0 | 3-0 |
| 12 | 12 | Baylor | Big 12 | 22-8 | 5-5 | 3-1 | 14-2 | 11-8 | 4-0 | 0-0 | 7-0 |
| 10 | 10 | Texas | Big 12 | 22-8 | 4-6 | 2-1 | 16-1 | 10-8 | 4-0 | 1-0 | 7-0 |
| 17 | 17 | Kansas St. | Big 12 | 23-7 | 4-6 | 3-0 | 16-1 | 9-6 | 4-1 | 3-0 | 7-0 |
| 2 | 2 | Alabama | SEC | 26-4 | 9-2 | 2-2 | 15-0 | 9-4 | 7-0 | 7-0 | 3-0 |
| 5 | 5 | Purdue | Big Ten | 25-5 | 8-3 | 4-0 | 13-2 | 9-4 | 6-1 | 5-0 | 5-0 |
| 28 | 28 | Iowa St. | Big 12 | 17-12 | 2-8 | 2-1 | 13-3 | 8-10 | 2-2 | 1-0 | 6-0 |
| 11 | 11 | Arizona | Pac-12 | 25-5 | 6-3 | 4-0 | 15-2 | 8-2 | 6-3 | 3-0 | 8-0 |
| 20 | 20 | TCU | Big 12 | 20-10 | 3-6 | 4-0 | 13-4 | 7-9 | 5-0 | 0-0 | 8-1 |
| 3 | 3 | Tennessee | SEC | 22-8 | 4-5 | 4-1 | 14-2 | 7-5 | 3-3 | 5-0 | 7-0 |
| 4 | 4 | UCLA | Pac-12 | 26-4 | 9-2 | 1-2 | 16-0 | 7-4 | 8-0 | 5-0 | 6-0 |
| 35 | 35 | Miami (FL) | ACC | 23-6 | 7-4 | 1-1 | 15-1 | 7-4 | 3-0 | 7-1 | 6-1 |
| 31 | 31 | Michigan St. | Big Ten | 18-11 | 5-7 | 2-2 | 11-2 | 6-9 | 5-1 | 3-1 | 4-0 |
| 77 | 77 | Wisconsin | Big Ten | 16-13 | 4-6 | 3-1 | 9-6 | 6-7 | 5-5 | 0-1 | 5-0 |
| 7 | 7 | UConn | Big East | 23-7 | 5-5 | 3-0 | 15-2 | 6-5 | 4-1 | 6-1 | 7-0 |
| 19 | 19 | Xavier | Big East | 22-8 | 7-4 | 1-2 | 14-2 | 6-5 | 6-1 | 4-2 | 6-0 |
| 45 | 45 | Northwestern | Big Ten | 20-10 | 6-4 | 1-1 | 13-5 | 6-5 | 4-5 | 2-0 | 8-0 |
| 25 | 24 | West Virginia | Big 12 | 17-13 | 3-8 | 2-1 | 12-4 | 5-12 | 5-1 | 1-0 | 6-0 |
| 52 | 52 | Texas Tech | Big 12 | 16-14 | 3-7 | 2-2 | 11-5 | 5-12 | 0-2 | 2-0 | 9-0 |
| 71 | 69 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | 14-16 | 2-8 | 4-1 | 8-7 | 5-12 | 3-4 | 3-0 | 3-0 |
| 46 | 47 | Oklahoma St. | Big 12 | 16-14 | 3-7 | 2-2 | 11-5 | 5-11 | 3-2 | 3-1 | 5-0 |
| 29 | 29 | Indiana | Big Ten | 20-10 | 5-7 | 1-1 | 14-2 | 5-8 | 5-2 | 4-0 | 6-0 |
| 49 | 49 | Missouri | SEC | 22-8 | 5-5 | 2-0 | 15-3 | 5-8 | 4-0 | 5-0 | 8-0 |
| 22 | 21 | Kentucky | SEC | 20-10 | 5-4 | 1-2 | 14-4 | 5-7 | 6-0 | 3-2 | 6-1 |
| 32 | 33 | Iowa | Big Ten | 19-11 | 4-7 | 1-2 | 14-2 | 5-7 | 8-2 | 1-1 | 5-1 |
| 38 | 38 | Rutgers | Big Ten | 18-12 | 4-7 | 0-1 | 14-4 | 5-6 | 4-2 | 2-4 | 7-0 |
| 13 | 13 | Marquette | Big East | 24-6 | 8-4 | 1-1 | 15-1 | 5-5 | 5-0 | 7-1 | 7-0 |
| 26 | 26 | Texas A&M | SEC | 22-8 | 7-4 | 1-3 | 14-1 | 5-5 | 4-1 | 6-0 | 7-2 |
| 9 | 9 | Gonzaga | WCC | 25-5 | 7-2 | 4-2 | 14-1 | 5-4 | 5-0 | 8-1 | 7-0 |
I’d take a 6 in a heart beat but still holding out hope for a 5 seed if we beat Nebby and then get to the B1G Championship Game. It’s doable.
Agree. Ironically, We’re actually better off with a 4 seed playing Purdue and beating them Saturday, since Sunday doesn’t matter. I’d think we’d be a lock for 5 if we beat Purdue.
yeah, that was disappointing last year when we won the B1G Tournament and found out that our seeding was set at #5 the previous night and that beating or losing to Purdue did not matter to the Selection Committee
As of today, March 5, TEN B1G Teams are projected by ESPN to make the Big Dance.
Iowa is projected as a 7 seed in the East Region (New York) and would face #10 seed Pittsburgh with the winner facing #2 Texas/#15 Youngstown State in Birmingham.
Michigan is the 5th team OUT. Penn State is the very last team in.
The 10 B1G Teams:
2 Purdue
4 Indiana
6 Michigan State
7 IOWA
7 Northwestern
8 Maryland
8 Illinois
11 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) @MrsScrew
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN)
11 Penn State (LAST TEAM IN)
Link to full bracket:
98 brackets in Bracket Matrix currently have Iowa as a 7 seed.
Link:
Iowa is projected as a 7 seed in the East Region (New York) and would face #10 seed Pittsburgh with the winner facing #2 Texas/#15 Youngstown State in Birmingham.
Michigan is the 5th team OUT. Penn State is the very last team in.
The 10 B1G Teams:
2 Purdue
4 Indiana
6 Michigan State
7 IOWA
7 Northwestern
8 Maryland
8 Illinois
11 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) @MrsScrew
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN)
11 Penn State (LAST TEAM IN)
Link to full bracket:
Men's Bracketology: How the Fighting Illini pulled off a surprise reboot
No one expected much from Illinois this year. But the Illini could have a shot at a No. 1 seed.
www.espn.com
98 brackets in Bracket Matrix currently have Iowa as a 7 seed.
Link:
It does when Iowa was the more uptempo team and hurt the play of Iowa more compared to Richmond. Plus letting a lesser team stay around longer is,always a bad idea.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I meant what they also had to do in the Big Ten tournament.
Yeah, when Fran’s teams lay an egg, they go all out. Today’s debacle may have cost them a double bye in the BTT, guaranteed they’re in the same half of the bracket as Purdue, and almost guaranteed them falling to an 8/9 seed in the NCAA tourney.
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With Fran's teams there's always the question of whether they can get stops.
When you shoot 49% you have a good shot of winning games.
How did Nebraska shoot today?
17-27 (63%) from 2 point range
14-26 (54%) from 3
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31-53 (59%) overall
As of this morning, March 6, TEN B1G Teams are projected by ESPN to make the Big Dance.
Iowa is projected as a 7 seed in the East Region (New York) and would face #10 seed Pittsburgh with the winner facing #2 Texas/#15 Youngstown State in Birmingham.
Michigan is the 5th team OUT. Penn State is the very last team in.
The 10 B1G Teams:
2 Purdue
4 Indiana
6 Michigan State
7 IOWA
7 Northwestern
8 Maryland
8 Illinois
11 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) @MrsScrew
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN)
11 Penn State (LAST TEAM IN)
Link to full bracket:
68 brackets in Bracket Matrix currently have Iowa as the lowest 7 seed.
Link:
Iowa is projected as a 7 seed in the East Region (New York) and would face #10 seed Pittsburgh with the winner facing #2 Texas/#15 Youngstown State in Birmingham.
Michigan is the 5th team OUT. Penn State is the very last team in.
The 10 B1G Teams:
2 Purdue
4 Indiana
6 Michigan State
7 IOWA
7 Northwestern
8 Maryland
8 Illinois
11 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) @MrsScrew
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN)
11 Penn State (LAST TEAM IN)
Link to full bracket:
Men's Bracketology: How the Fighting Illini pulled off a surprise reboot
No one expected much from Illinois this year. But the Illini could have a shot at a No. 1 seed.
www.espn.com
68 brackets in Bracket Matrix currently have Iowa as the lowest 7 seed.
Link:
How's an 8 seed but playing in Des Moines sound?
Shelby Mast is the Bracketologist for USA Today. His projections are based on how he thinks the committee will make their selections, not how he would want to make them, if the season ended TODAY.
On his website he brags that he is one of the most accurate Bracketologists with 15+ years experience and a 98% accuracy rate since 2005.
Today, March 6th, he has #8 seed Iowa in the Midwest Region playing #9 FAU with the winner playing #1 Kansas/#16 Grambling State (in Des Moines).
He has Rutgers as his 3rd team OUT and Michigan as his 6th team OUT.
He has 9 B1G teams in as of this morning, March 6.
1 Purdue (#4 overall seed)
4 Indiana (#13 overall seed)
7 Northwestern (#26 overall seed)
7 Michigan State (#27 overall seed)
8 Maryland (#29 overall seed)
8 IOWA (#30 overall seed)
8 Illinois (#31 overall seed)
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN) (#43 overall seed)
11 Penn State (LAST 4 IN) (#45 overall seed)
Link:
www.bracketwag.com
Shelby Mast is the Bracketologist for USA Today. His projections are based on how he thinks the committee will make their selections, not how he would want to make them, if the season ended TODAY.
On his website he brags that he is one of the most accurate Bracketologists with 15+ years experience and a 98% accuracy rate since 2005.
Today, March 6th, he has #8 seed Iowa in the Midwest Region playing #9 FAU with the winner playing #1 Kansas/#16 Grambling State (in Des Moines).
He has Rutgers as his 3rd team OUT and Michigan as his 6th team OUT.
He has 9 B1G teams in as of this morning, March 6.
1 Purdue (#4 overall seed)
4 Indiana (#13 overall seed)
7 Northwestern (#26 overall seed)
7 Michigan State (#27 overall seed)
8 Maryland (#29 overall seed)
8 IOWA (#30 overall seed)
8 Illinois (#31 overall seed)
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN) (#43 overall seed)
11 Penn State (LAST 4 IN) (#45 overall seed)
Link:
Shelby's Bracket WAG
When it appears Iowa would have been better off to lose to Indiana and beat Nebraska, rather than the other way around, just shows how ridiculous the Quad system is.
Iowa usually ends up seeded 1 spot lower than Lunardi predicts, so this isn't terribly surprising. I think Iowa needs 2 wins in the BTT to have a CHANCE of not ended up on the 8/9 line. It would also be helpful if NW/IL/MD didn't make a run and knock Iowa down a notch (root for IN on the other half of the bracket).As of this morning, March 6, TEN B1G Teams are projected by ESPN to make the Big Dance.
Iowa is projected as a 7 seed in the East Region (New York) and would face #10 seed Pittsburgh with the winner facing #2 Texas/#15 Youngstown State in Birmingham.
Michigan is the 5th team OUT. Penn State is the very last team in.
The 10 B1G Teams:
2 Purdue
4 Indiana
6 Michigan State
7 IOWA
7 Northwestern
8 Maryland
8 Illinois
11 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) @MrsScrew
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN)
11 Penn State (LAST TEAM IN)
Link to full bracket:
Men's Bracketology: How the Fighting Illini pulled off a surprise reboot
No one expected much from Illinois this year. But the Illini could have a shot at a No. 1 seed.www.espn.com
68 brackets in Bracket Matrix currently have Iowa as the lowest 7 seed.
Link:
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Despite this guy's history of accurate predictions, you're batsh*t crazy if you think the NCAA is going to put #1 Kansas in a position where they are essentially a road team in the 2nd round.How's an 8 seed but playing in Des Moines sound?
Shelby Mast is the Bracketologist for USA Today. His projections are based on how he thinks the committee will make their selections, not how he would want to make them, if the season ended TODAY.
On his website he brags that he is one of the most accurate Bracketologists with 15+ years experience and a 98% accuracy rate since 2005.
Today, March 6th, he has #8 seed Iowa in the Midwest Region playing #9 FAU with the winner playing #1 Kansas/#16 Grambling State (in Des Moines).
He has Rutgers as his 3rd team OUT and Michigan as his 6th team OUT.
He has 9 B1G teams in as of this morning, March 6.
1 Purdue (#4 overall seed)
4 Indiana (#13 overall seed)
7 Northwestern (#26 overall seed)
7 Michigan State (#27 overall seed)
8 Maryland (#29 overall seed)
8 IOWA (#30 overall seed)
8 Illinois (#31 overall seed)
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 IN) (#43 overall seed)
11 Penn State (LAST 4 IN) (#45 overall seed)
Link:
Shelby's Bracket WAG
You never know about this Iowa team. They can lose to anyone and beat just about anyone. It all depends if their 3's are falling. Perkins is a mystery. He disappeared yesterday after 2 great games. Very frustrating. I would love for Iowa to get a chance to play Kansas.
Now this couldn't get any better for Iowa. However, do you really think they'd have the 2 seed play a road game against the 7 seed? I don't. Now if we could get by Boise, but got waxed by K State in that scenario, and again failed to reach the sweet 16, how would this season be viewed by most on here?Speaking of ending up in Des Moines and Dave Ommen (the founder of Bracketville), as of this morning, March 4, he has Iowa as a 7 seed in the South Region-Louisville facing #10 seed Boise State in Des Moines with the winner playing #2 Kansas State/#15 Kennesaw State.
Penn State is his last team in. Michigan is his 4th team OUT.
He has 10 B1G teams in:
1 Purdue (#4 overall seed)
4 Indiana (#13 overall seed)
6 Michigan State (#23 overall seed)
7 IOWA (#25 overall seed)
7 Northwestern (#26 overall seed)
8 Maryland (#30 overall seed)
8 Illinois (#32 overall seed)
10 Rutgers (Last 4 byes) (#39 overall seed)
11 Wisconsin (LAST 4 in) (#45 overall seed)
11 Penn State (LAST team in) (#46 overall seed)
Link:
Dave’s Bracket
This is where you will find my bracket projections for the 2025 NCAA Tournament. At the time of publication, the bracket reflects an overview of where the NCAA landscape currently stands. Bra…
2019 Cincy was a 7 seed in Columbus. Tenn 2 seed. Of course 10 seed Iowa beat Cincinnati.
2019 Minnesota was a 10 seed in Des Moines.
2014 Baylor was a 6 seed in San Antonio. Creighton was 3 seed.
2015 Dayton was 11 seed in Columbus. Oklahoma 3 seed.
Of course Hawks lost to 11th and 12th place teams at carver plus Eastern Illinois so probably doesn't matter where they play.
Yeah it seems that most just don't know the bracketing rules (which I don't blame folks for not knowing since it's not always intuitive). Basically, if Iowa's on the 8 seed line or higher, they can play in Des Moines. All the committee cares about is that first game and making sure the higher seed does not have a "considerable disadvantage."
This might come as surprising to some, but most first and second round NCAA tournament sites struggle to sell out and are often fairly empty. To combat this, they try to put teams in the closest site possible so they have full arenas. They don't care if Iowa has a slight advantage to Kansas or K St or Texas in the second round--they still expect those top seeded teams to travel well enough that it's likely 60/40 or 50/50 at worst. And the bonus to the NCAA is they get a full arena of ticket sales, merch sales, etc. This idea that it would be "unfair" for Iowa to play in Des Moines is weird. It's only a 3.5 hour drive to Des Moines from Lawrence.
