Lose to Illinois we go back to. 1st four out, so just win baby win !!!
March 14 Joe Lunardi / ESPN Bracketology: IOWA is on the Bubble (7th Team OUT). #59 NET Ranking (8th Best in B1G) on March 14
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Simply a must win on Sunday. Otherwise have to at least go to the finals of the BTT.
Not sure what the big deal is.
Rose said it in his post himself. "Beat Illinois and not falter in first round of BTT and Iowa is surely in."
That make Iowa vs Illinois THE most important game. Seems like a valid contribution to the conversation to me
BirdistheWord
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I promise you don't want Illinois coming in with an opportunity to clinch a share of the regular season Big Ten title with a W in Carver.
Are we talking about the game with Tyler Cook where we led the whole game, but bungled it at the end? That was 2018-2019.
I agree with what you’re saying…….But sweet Jesus how good would it be to beat Illinois and knock them out of a co-championship?!?!
In 2019 we were behind 21 points at halftime and forced overtime.
2014 was the game we led the whole way, then lost in overtime.
**** Illinois. Let them get their hopes up so we can smash them, then stomp on them and take what we need from their "NET".
A win on Sunday gives 4 Quad I wins in 6 games I believe. That may be enough. 1 BTT win should do it. They’ve really elevated their game these past 2 weeks. It would be shame to miss out now after scrapping this hard to get back in the conversation. I sold them short earlier (I don’t think I’m alone), but they’ve changed my mind. Now they need to finish the climb.
Nah, we want Illinois to win tonight. Then, on Sunday, Purdue will have wrapped up the title by beating Wisconsin at home several hours before the Illinois/Iowa tip.
It really is set up for the hawks to take advantage.
Agreed could go either way- and for all we know the pressure on IL could throw them off. They've just got enough veterans that I think it'd be more motivation than pressure. Either way, time will tell
Would like a repeat of the game Weezy dunked at the end and pissed them off (2020 I think?)Joe Lundardi must not be paying attention to their last month lol? That win vs marq is big but they really have looked rough lately.
I’ve thought for some time if we beat Illinois, MSU, Northwestern and PSU we were in. We JUST beat Illinois were in. Guaranteed
Otherwise, we probably need two good wins in the BTT.
BirdistheWord
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That is the closest we have been to the final four in a while 😉
BirdistheWord
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I had this thought process as well, though what if we lose to a Penn State or Maryland on a neutral court to wrap up the season. 😬I’ve thought for some time if we beat Illinois, MSU, Northwestern and PSU we were in. We JUST beat Illinois were in. Guaranteed
Otherwise, we probably need two good wins in the BTT.
It sure would be nice to erase all doubts and beat Illinois at home and then win on Thursday and Friday in the Big Ten Tournament.
Otherwise, if we lose to Illinois, how many games would we have to win in the Big Ten Tournament? Would 2 wins be enough?
BirdistheWord
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I believe it would be. One of those would likely be quad 1.
I fear the IL loss + 1-1 in BTT scenario.
BirdistheWord
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IMO here are the bubble contenders ranked in order.
Iowa Last 10 seed
Seton Hall 11
Virginia 11
FAU 11
Pitt 11
Utah FFO
Providence FFO
Indiana St FFO
Texas A&M FFO
Wake NFO
Minnesota NFO
SMU NFO
Syracuse NFO
Miss
VA Tech
Cincy
Oregon
Kansas St
Richmond
Ohio St
Butler
Iowa Last 10 seed
Seton Hall 11
Virginia 11
FAU 11
Pitt 11
Utah FFO
Providence FFO
Indiana St FFO
Texas A&M FFO
Wake NFO
Minnesota NFO
SMU NFO
Syracuse NFO
Miss
VA Tech
Cincy
Oregon
Kansas St
Richmond
Ohio St
Butler
If Iowa goes 2-1 over their next 3 games should they be in?
And would that include the scenario of losing to Illinois at home and then winning their first two games in the Big Ten tournament?
In that Lunardi sheet that I posted above, he even wrote that it was a disastrous loss for Wake Forest AT HOME to Georgia Tech
Probably? But I think at least one of those BTT wins has to be against a good team.
I’m not very into the weeds on this but it looks like tonight we Hawkeye fans are hoping for Michigan State over Northwestern and Indiana over Minnesota. Is this correct?
I think the hard part about the bubble is the answer is almost always "it depends". It's easy to say that if X happens Y will be the result, but the truth is other teams could also go on runs here or pull off big upsets and complicate things. Like what happens if both the AAC and A10 are actually bid thiefs and then teams like UNLV and Oregon go out and win their conference tournaments? Now all of a sudden all of us bubble teams are sweating big time.
Wake Forest is a great example of this--everyone wants to say they are done for after last night's result, but they play a Q1 home game on Saturday against Clemson and then could play a middling ACC team before facing Duke or UNC in the ACC tournament. They go 3-1 with two big Q1 wins and they are right back in this thing.
Unfortunately, we don't play games in a vacuum. So we largely don't control our own destiny outside of winning the entire BTT.
We want Minnesota to win so that Iowa's win over them becomes a Q1 away and Q2 home wins.
And I would think we want NU to beat Michigan State. We win the tie breaker for conference seeding vs both of these teams. (Both those team being Minnesota and MSU)
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