In my opinion this was the best match I have seen in a long time. Two warriors toe to toe the entire 7 minutes. Only thing that could have screwed this match up is if A.Rivera was officiating. Toe to toe. Head to head. Blood time out. Fantastic.
Marinelli and Joseph
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Bull may have unlocked the key here. Alternate lower and upper attacks, only go for it when you're confident in the position, hopefully wear him down just 10%-15% until a leg attack gets through. And never give him a chance to re-attack.
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It was a good plan, but cael has shown the ability to make adjustments with his wrestlers. Brands has to do the same with bull.
Bull kept attempting the post HC until his final shot when he went to the right with a near leg single.
The timing was perfect. Cenzo never saw it coming.
Agree 100% with the OP, these 2 guys a Warriors!
As far as adjustments. When you get a Bear Hug, unless you just crush the guy and bend him backwards. You need to Hop to a side. Joseph I believe always throws to his right. Bull needs to lock and hop to his left which would shut down joseph's throw.
As far as adjustments. When you get a Bear Hug, unless you just crush the guy and bend him backwards. You need to Hop to a side. Joseph I believe always throws to his right. Bull needs to lock and hop to his left which would shut down joseph's throw.
And what a finish off that single. Had to have been exhausted and to show that power that late in the match. Sweet
This. To me that was the difference. Bull attacking at different levels, a lot of low and high shots...Joseph doesn't do that.
I think we saw some adjustments from Cenzo already in this last match. I don't remember him ever getting in that deep on leg attacks on Marinelli in past matches, and he finishes both of those shots against any other wrestler. I was impressed with the Bull's ability to move his feet just enough and horse Cenzo back up with his underhook. That was a turning point in the match in my opinion.
Joseph not accepting his 2nd place medal on the podium was classless
Yeah not a good look. I’ve heard of lots of medals being tossed in the bin but outright refusing on the podium is pretty poor sportsmanship.
I don't think the Bull figured out anything new...he just beat him. Cenzo had a few chances and Bull danced out of em. Those odds are gonna be hard to duplicate and be that clean vs Cenzo.
If they meet in the Finals it will be a complete toss up again. I could just as easy see Cenzo win that in Minny and then Kem beats Hall in complete roll reversals from BigTens.
All 4 of those guys are just on another level.
If they meet in the Finals it will be a complete toss up again. I could just as easy see Cenzo win that in Minny and then Kem beats Hall in complete roll reversals from BigTens.
All 4 of those guys are just on another level.
Cenzo is a good kid who made a dumb decision after a heartbreaking loss. Lighten up...kids do this kind of stuff, this is how they learn.
Now if he steals an old lady's purse, spits on a baby and kicks a puppy...lemme know! That would be classless. This was just a dumb mistake because he was disappointed in himself.
The way Marinelli dug that undertook and pulled Cenzo up on that first double leg was unbelievable.
Just as much as I like cashews and ketchup on my scrambled eggs.
This wasn't on the broadcast, was it?
Everyone knows you accept the medal, and then toss it in the trash on your way out!
(edit: had a out of date page, and Oldest beat me to this)
Yeah, Not a big deal to me. Mcdonuogh threw his in the trash.
He already did. See Spencer's semi-final match as well.
Im certainly going to miss these battles next year. Im sure PSU can find some kinda waiver to get Joseph another year
This wasn't on the broadcast, was it?
Everyone knows you accept the medal, and then toss it in the trash on your way out!
(edit: had a out of date page, and Oldest beat me to this)
Was at the match so it was shown on video scoreboard.
That was just grandstanding. Like Howard leaving his shoes in the ring to honor an uncle. Both were trying to bring attention to themselves. What Joseph could have done is quietly accept the medal and go give it to a child in the stands.
Cenzo went without a title at B1G's over his career. As good as he is, that has to be more than a little frustrating. Not taking the medal is no big deal. Even if it is a bit of a bad look, Cenzo has always been pure class every other time and gets an easy pass on this one
He was on the podium but waved off the person handing out medals. You can care about it or not but certainly not the same as privately throwing it into a trash can.
Who cares. This ain't little league.
Not sure if "classless" is the word I would use? Maybe more like childish or even babyish. You need to man up in tough situations! Losing is a big part of sports and live. DEAL WITH IT and keep moving forward. No one wins them all!
This is not the same as not showing up at the podium. No one really cares what you do with your awards at the end of the day. representing yourself, your team, and your school is a different story!
Yes, he could have just thrown it away like McD!!!
edit, sorry just noticed someone addressed that already, but I was serious, be man enough to accept that 2nd place medal and do whatever you want with it after.
I think Cenzo showed up on the awards stand and then declined to accept the 2nd place medal. FWIW, as others have mentioned, McDonough threw a 2nd place medal in the trash once and I personally witnessed Mark Perry ceremoniously slam dunk one in a trash can just after stepping off of the awards stand one time at B10's.
Probably the toughest place for a wrestler to be is on the second step of the awards stand about 9 minutes after having your dream crushed...but Hawk or not...respect the opponent, respect the sport, show some maturity and take the medal that you earned and keep your cool.
If you want to throw it away later, who cares, it's yours. But don't create a scene and draw the attention to you, away from the winner, etc.
Hmmm. Didn’t know that til now. It’s not like it was won/lost on a questionable call. He got taken down at the end of a brutally physical match. One guy had it in him and the other guy couldn’t stop him. That’s what wrestling is all about.
Oh btw. He has one more disappointing match this year coming his way
Keyboards they be a melting if that was ADS that didn't accept his medal...........
FWIW, Mark Perry is the original runner up medal recycler.
Keyboards they be a melting if that was ADS that didn't accept his medal...........
Oh boy, that would be a spectacle.
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