Minneapolis PD Kill Black Man (not the subject of the warrant) during No Knock Search Warrant in Connection w/ a St Paul Homicide Investigation
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The Minnesota governor has the National Guard on alert in case the City of Minneapolis requests their help.
The police/SWAT Team have to announce that they are the police and why they are there. They are required to repeat this over and over so there is no confusion on who they are and why they are there.
Watch the video; it appears the police/SWAT entered and announced themselves as they should have. However, in 9 seconds the officer fired 3 times because he saw a gun. It's a big, big mess.
There is now a moratorium until further notice in Minneapolis on no knock warrants.
@Hawkman98 , as a LEO, your thoughts?
If you see a gun being raised towards you, what are you trained to do? Do you pause and take the risk that you might be shot, as this poster suggests that you do?
what is surprising is that he had a gun in his hand so quickly while asleep under the blanket
the gun was loaded, btw
My son is currently a LEO and served with honor in the Marine Corp as a MP. It's shit like this that makes me wish he wasn't. Too many lose/lose situations.
he got the gun because of all the violence that's been going on since Memorial Day, 2020. Homicides, violent crime, theft and car jackings are WAY up in Minneapolis/St Paul
My feeling is that Amir Locke was obviously aware of where he was and who he was acquainted with. He was prepared to defend himself and probably tried to do so. Lawfully. The murder suspect in this case didn't do his friend any damn favors.
As some have suggested, I think the officers are going to be fine. I don't see them doing anything wrong. Like it or not, they did as they were trained. Nevertheless, there are DEMANDS that the officer who fired the 3 shots be fired and charged with murder.
The City, however, won't be "fine." They will pay a hefty sum. The Floyd family got $27 million; look for something similar.
To be fair and accurate, as the police entered, they said over and over, "Police, search warrant." They do this, of course, so the occupants know who is entering and why.
It is not clear if they expected the suspect to be home or if they were simply there to gather evidence (before it got destroyed) in a homicide investigation.
This is from KARE 11 (Minneapolis NBC affiliate).
Watch:
It was a home invasion.
people coming into your home with guns is one of the boogeymen you dillholes have used to cling on to your PEW PEW rights.
Yes, it was. But, tell that to the guy sleeping on the couch. The innocent guy with a legal firearm. In a residence of obvious, major chaos.
Well, if the police are stating over and over, "Police, search warrant" and you then pointed the gun at the police, you would get shot.
This is not that hard to understand. But, you are not too bright, so I am sure it will have to be explained to you again.
You left out the part that the person napping pointed a loaded gun at the officers.
I guess that's why you are the FORMER editor of the Press Citizen. You sucked at that job and you suck at accurate posting on here, too.
At least you are a consistent dumb ass, so we know what to expect.
Any person can yell out POLICE as they burst into a room, it seems so ridiculous to believe that it would lead to instant deference to authority.
Do you guys think it’s more like calling “bank!” on an errant 3 pointer, or like saying “no offense, but” right before you insult someone?
Do you guys think it’s more like calling “bank!” on an errant 3 pointer, or like saying “no offense, but” right before you insult someone?
It wasn't an invasion. You know that.
It wasn't just people, it was the police. You know that.
I have yet to ever hear robbers yelling over and over "police, search warrant" during an attempted robbery.
If you have an example of where this has happened, please provide it.
Do you have a lot of experience with robbers other than those on television?
Your statements don't contain the actual details.
They did not come in yelling random stuff. They came in yelling over and over, "police, search warrant."
The steps for a no knock search warrant are to (1) announce who is entering, which the police did; (2) announce why they are entering, which they correctly did that, too; they were yelling "search warrant."
The argument for the no knock search warrant is so that evidence does not get destroyed. The MPD, of course, was assisting the St Paul PD in the investigation of the murder of a St Paul Black man. The family of the murdered Black man wants justice, too.
Amir sat up, yes, but you left out that he pointed a loaded gun at one of the officers. Like it or not, but the officer responded in the way he was trained.
The officers on scene didn't do anything wrong; they followed procedures from the moment they unlocked the door. The issue, of course, is with the no knock. Are they really needed? Could you wait until the suspect entered the building and show him the search warrant then, for example. This is why there is now an immediate moratorium on no knocks in the City of Minneapolis. The issue is, once again, getting revisited.
No knock warrants need to end, everywhere. I suspect that a no knock warrant very rarely works any more effectively than a standard search warrant. If they had pounded on the door for a few seconds yelling “police, search warrant!” before barging in this guy is probably still alive today. 5 additional seconds would have made a difference here I suspect. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
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They were already inside the home. And - once again - if you're expected to drop your weapon because someone screams "POLICE!! WARRANT!!" then what the FVCK is the point of having a gun for your defense? The bad guy yells it and you're supposed to drop your weapon? That seems dumb as hell...but certainly par for your course.
What about the judge, who issued the warrant? Should that person be fired IMMEDIATELY, too?
Before you just randomly, stupidly and ignorantly demand that people be fired IMMEDIATELY, perhaps you should educate yourself on the matter. I know, that's asking a lot from you, the resident smart ass/ dumb ass.
For those who would like to educate themselves on this issue, this comes from ABC News:
WHAT ARE NO-KNOCK WARRANTS?
No-knock warrants are orders by judges that allow police to enter premises without notifying residents, such as by ringing the doorbell or banging on the door. They've been blamed in several killings of Black people, some of which have led to criminal prosecutions against officers, and prompted bipartisan calls across the country to curtail their use.
WAS THIS A NO-KNOCK ENTRY?
Interim Police Chief Amelia Huffman said at a news conference Thursday night that the SWAT team had both a regular and a no-knock search warrant. She didn't specify whether the officers carried out a no-knock entry.
But John Baker, an assistant professor of criminal justice studies at St. Cloud State University, said the body camera video makes clear that it was indeed a no-knock entry.
Though no-knock entries have sometimes had deadly results, Baker said there are important and necessary reasons for police to have them as an option — including the possibility that they are going into a dangerous situation, or that evidence may be destroyed if an announced entry gives a person time to do so. In the Locke case, he said, authorities haven't disclosed what intelligence the officers had before they went in.
WHAT WAS THE DEPARTMENT POLICY ON NO-KNOCK WARRANTS?
The Minneapolis Police Department restricted their use as part of a wide-ranging set of reforms following the killing of George Floyd in May 2020. Under the policy, which took effect in November 2020, officers were required in most cases to do a “knock and announce” by announcing their presence as they entered, making periodic announcements while inside and giving occupants reasonable time to respond.
But judges can also sign warrants in high-risk situations that allow “unannounced entry,” generally by SWAT teams. In the wake of Locke's death, activists said they're still abused.
WHAT DOES THE CITY'S MORATORIUM DO?
While it's in effect, Minneapolis officers can only use the knock-and-announce approach and must wait a reasonable time before entering. The mayor's order carved out a narrow exception for when there's an imminent threat of harm to an individual or the public, and those no-knock warrants must be specifically approved by the police chief.
Two recognized experts — prominent activist DeRay McKesson and Peter Kraska, a professor at Eastern Kentucky University — will work with the city to review and suggest revisions to the city's policy.
WHAT DOES STATE LAW SAY ON NO-KNOCK WARRANTS?
The Minnesota Legislature adopted some restrictions last June as part of its response to the killing of George Floyd, but still allowed their use when certain conditions were met. Democratic Gov. Tim Walz said Friday it's already time to revisit them.
“The events leading to the death of Amir Locke illustrate the need for further reform,” the governor said in a statement. “To ensure the safety of both residents and law enforcement, we need to make additional changes to police policies and practices regarding the execution of search warrants.” He made no specific proposals.
WHAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY?
Louisville, Kentucky, banned them following the killing of Taylor in her home in March 2020, which led to calls for change nationwide. Oregon and Florida have also outlawed such warrants. Kentucky followed Breonna's Law with a series of statewide restrictions that fell short of a total ban.
The Justice Department moved in September to curtail their use by federal agents. With limited exceptions, no-knock warrants now require approval from both federal prosecutors and ranking agency officials before seeking one from a judge. Federal agents are limited to using them in situations when an agent “has reasonable grounds to believe that knocking and announcing the agent’s presence would create an imminent threat of physical violence to the agent and/or another person.”
EXPLAINER: Amir Locke case shines light on no-knock warrants
The death of a Black man at the hands of a Minneapolis police SWAT team is shining new light on how police carry out no-knock warrants
I'll let the criminals know that that's all they have to do when they break into your house to get you to disarm. Seems dumb to even have a weapon in your house if that's all it takes. Much safer to get rid of all your guns, right?
It is not announcing it when they are already in the house when they start yelling. You know that.
you dipshits get hard thinking about a scenario where you can use your gun on people that rush in your home like these cops did.
That's not true. There's more to it than that.
John Baker, an assistant professor of criminal justice studies at St. Cloud State University said there are important and necessary reasons for police to have them as an option — including the possibility that they are going into a dangerous situation, or that evidence may be destroyed if an announced entry gives a person time to do so. In the Locke case, he said, authorities haven't disclosed what intelligence the officers had before they went in.
WHAT WAS THE DEPARTMENT POLICY ON NO-KNOCK WARRANTS?
The Minneapolis Police Department restricted their use as part of a wide-ranging set of reforms following the killing of George Floyd in May 2020. Under the policy, which took effect in November 2020, officers were required in most cases to do a “knock and announce” by announcing their presence as they entered, making periodic announcements while inside and giving occupants reasonable time to respond.
But judges can also sign warrants in high-risk situations that allow “unannounced entry,” generally by SWAT teams.
WHAT DOES STATE LAW SAY ON NO-KNOCK WARRANTS?
The Minnesota Legislature adopted some restrictions last June as part of its response to the killing of George Floyd, but still allowed their use when certain conditions were met. Democratic Gov. Tim Walz said Friday it's already time to revisit them.
“The events leading to the death of Amir Locke illustrate the need for further reform,” the governor said in a statement. “To ensure the safety of both residents and law enforcement, we need to make additional changes to police policies and practices regarding the execution of search warrants.” He made no specific proposals.
EXPLAINER: Amir Locke case shines light on no-knock warrants
The death of a Black man at the hands of a Minneapolis police SWAT team is shining new light on how police carry out no-knock warrants
He never pointed the gun at the police and the video shows that.
Thanks for entering the discussion, @Hawkman98. As a LEO, you always bring great input to discussions like this.
Conversely, note that @torbee liked Pinehawk's post. Is anyone surprised?
The judge who issues the no knock warrant would be/should be asking these questions before the warrant is issued. After that, the officers simply are asked to do their jobs.
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