A garbage post. And you wonder why you keep getting banned. I give it a few weeks before your handle goes away.
Minneapolis PD Kill Black Man (not the subject of the warrant) during No Knock Search Warrant in Connection w/ a St Paul Homicide Investigation
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A garbage post. And you wonder why you keep getting banned. I give it a few weeks before your handle goes away.
LOL... Assuming you have a weapon for home defense, here's the question...if people burst into your home unannounced and they're all screaming "POLICE!! SEARCH WARRANT!!" are you going to automatically put your weapon down and raise your hands?
Same question for you @NorthernHawkeye . Could both of you attempt to answer on point.
if people burst into your home unannounced and they're all screaming "POLICE!! SEARCH WARRANT!!"
LOL. Do you even read what you write?
And there you go...refusing to answer the question just as expected. Would you drop your gun and raise your hands if strangers broke into your home unannounced and started screaming "POLICE!! SEARCH WARRANT!!"?
It's a pretty simple question. Yes or no would suffice.
They were the police and the answer is yes.
This pretending to be the police is a statistical rarity and you know it. Seems like a strange hill to die on.
You're assuming police burst into someone's home all the time...they don't. I can't speak for Kee or Northern but the police have no reason to break into my house unannounced.
So all these strangers have to do to get your to put your weapon down is TELL you they are the cops. Better if they scream it. Got it. Brilliant. Really. It might be the hill you die on.
I dont know. However, if I didn't, I would expect to be shot. It's a shitty situation to be in. It sucks, but the police did what they had to do and there was no wrong in it.
And how, exactly, do you know that? It doesn't appear they had any reason to break into that particular house since whoever they were looking for wasn't there. It's absolutely certain the young man on the couch had as little reason to expect it as you claim to possess. There are many instances of police getting an address wrong or kicking a door based on bad tips. You could be next. So answer the question...would YOU disarm because strangers in your home are screaming at you?
I think his point is you can't scream "police search warrant" and also be "unannounced". Shouting that they are the police is the definition of an announcement.
Sooo...the police...knowing this...should expect to possibly be confronted by homeowners with weapons. And if one or more of THEM gets shot by an innocent person...there's no wrong in it...correct?
Yeah, unfortunately that is not how it works. Pulling a gun, legal or not, on a cop is a crime. Shooting one would be even more so. Like I said, it's a shitty situation for all involved.
So all these strangers have to do to get your to put your weapon down is TELL you they are the cops. Better if they scream it. Got it. Brilliant. Really. It might be the hill you die on.
Think about what your saying.
Run through that scenario 10 times.
I put my weapon down all 10 times.
You don't put your weapon down any of the 10 times.
I like my chances better than yours.
But go ahead and keep invoking the statistical rarity.
That's because NH is a f'n moran.
They announced AFTER breaking in. So...they broke in unannounced and then started screaming. Just as I said.
And if I'm a crook, I like my odds a lot better breaking into your house. 100% of the time.
We can break into Northern or Kee’s home with guns drawn. Announce we are the cops after we stormed in and see if they disarm/remain disarmed because we said we were cops
They had warrants to search 3 apartments in that flat. They did have a reason to be there. MPD is not saying they went to the wrong apartment. My first question is why did that young man sleep with a gun in his hand?
I cooperate with police. I've been pulled over with a loaded weapon and that's the first thing I tell them when they get to the car. I tell them what I have and where it's at. If somebody knocked down my door and yelled "police, we have a warrant" I would cooperate.
Be honest please. They announced as they were entering. Can't have meaningful discussion if you can't be honest.
So no-knock warrants should be banned. Period. No more "shitty situations" that put innocent people at risk.
And Kenneth Walker was cleared for trying to defend himself and his girlfriend, Breonna Taylor and he actually fired a shot. His federal lawsuit against the Louisville PD is moving forward. I suspect he'll win.
in the same anount of time we would announce that we were cops after already enterint your home, and see you on the couch we could shoot you dead.
are you now saying you dont want guns to defend your home in case intruders come in?
I'm being 100% "honest". You can watch the video. They broke in unannounced. That's not remotely debatable. It is the ESSENCE of a no-knock warrant. smh
And the young man on the couch knew that in those split seconds because...well...they said so? Hell, I'm watching the tape and I'm having a hard time picking it out since it sounds like they're all screaming it.
They are going to have to ban these type of warrants.
Also, wonder why the dude is just chillin on the coach with a handgun
Also, wonder why the dude is just chillin on the coach with a handgun
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I suggest the next time a "cop" attempts to pull you over don't pull over. It might be a criminal.
If you think killing an innocent person is the right decision than you don't get to complain about people being mean to cops on the internet.
Once again, comparing the number of legitimate police raids vs your examples still leads to the conclusion that the latter is a statistical rarity.
The chances are it will be a real cop, but don't pretend like people don't impersonate police officers. It can be a concern especially for a woman being pulled over in a secluded area by an unmarked police car. My point isn't that it happens often, but it's certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Criminals are often inventive in their tactics.
No one is this thread has disputed that it doesn't happen.
Well most believe the Minnesota man had no right to be concerned about cops barging into the apartment.
It's hard to find exact numbers. One source said 20,000 no knock warrants in 2015. Another said 60,000 to 70,000 in 2010. You guys have given what, six examples of criminals pretending to be cops and zero doing a no knock entrance? Not much of an argument.
I live in a pretty shitty city. Crime is up all over the place. I'm not pretending anything. Criminals suck and they will come up with all sorts of different ways to ruin your life. This is why I have cameras set up all over the place. The scenarios being posed are absolutely ridiculous. If 10 guys impersonating cops come and break down your door, your dead. I don't care how well armed you are. It's pretty easy to tell a couple of yahoos impersonating cops trying to break into your home. If police enact a no knock search warrant in my neighborhood I have all the faith in their process that they will get the right address.
I don't often agree with Ben Crump, but the other day when I heard him on the radio saying that the Mpls PD will continue to have these massive screw ups until it starts treating black families like it does white families, I had to nod my head. There was absolutely no reason for this to be a no knock entry. That's what cost this poor kid his life, imo.
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Stand Your Ground at its heart is about defending one's self in any situation in ANY LOCATION. Hence, it would never need to be "extended."
The Castle Doctrine, of course, is primarily limited to defending one's self in one's domicile.
Huh?
Stand Your Ground at its heart is about defending one's self in any situation in ANY LOCATION. Hence, it would never need to be "extended."
The Castle Doctrine, of course, is primarily limited to defending one's self in one's domicile.
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