It may of not of been clear. I was agreeing with what you said to IowaHog about sitting it out. He's a jackass, not you.
Mistake Cancelling Big Ten Tournament
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How many people do you think lost their homes because the NCAA tournament got cancelled? I don’t mean to minimize the economic impact, because it certainly is substantial. But in terms of cancelling things for purposes of public health and national security, entertainment events are not what I’d consider vital, and I don’t think many are losing their house because of it.
I also believe that the cancellation of the tournament will save lives. For example, when you look at a country like South Korea that got out in front of the virus and was very proactive about testing, the mortality rate is being reported to be less than 1% because they’re able to provide sufficient resources and care to those who need it the most. Compare that to Italy who saw an influx of coronavirus patients such that doctors had to chose who got life saving respirator treatment and those who didn’t, which has led to a mortality rate of over 5%. Slowing the spread saves lives, and a big part of slowing the spread is by avoiding big crowds.
Do I think cancelling the tournament was a good decision? Generally yes. I acknowledge that’s a difficult decision to judge either way because it can be a morbid exercise to do a cost/benefit analysis when lives are on the line, and we won’t be able to provide an exact answer on how many lives may have been saved by not having the tournament.
I think it’s also worth noting that the cancellations and restrictions that we’ve seen in the US is less drastic than what we’ve seen in other countries where in-country travel has/had effectively been banned. China took much more extreme measures to address the virus outbreak.
Pistons’ Christian Wood Tests Positive for Coronavirus
that didn't take long...can you imagine thousands & thousands of people running around with this thing.
https://heavy.com/sports/2020/03/pistons-christian-wood-coronavirus/
that didn't take long...can you imagine thousands & thousands of people running around with this thing.
https://heavy.com/sports/2020/03/pistons-christian-wood-coronavirus/
It would have been nice if we would have cancelled all sports and shutdown society while reporting each occurrence of influenza for NBA athletes too.
CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through March 7, 2020, there have been:
36,000,000 – 51,000,000
flu illnesses
17,000,000 – 24,000,000
flu medical visits
370,000 – 670,000
flu hospitalizations
22,000 – 55,000
flu deaths
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Compare the flu stats to this. Can you imagine if we had thousands running around with influenza!!!
Here’s the latest coronavirus news
Death toll at 58
Nationally, there are 2,800 cases of coronavirus COVID-19 with 58 deaths. Twenty-five of the deaths are associated with the Life Care Center in Washington state.
Here’s the latest coronavirus news
Death toll at 58
Nationally, there are 2,800 cases of coronavirus COVID-19 with 58 deaths. Twenty-five of the deaths are associated with the Life Care Center in Washington state.
You are either stupid, insensitve, or both. The US is at the beginning of what is coming, and what we are doing now or recently will determine just how bad it gets. We all want to live our lives and some of us (me) are incredibly disappointed at the cancellation of the dance.
People here are already recovering or recovered without much incident.
Yes it kills old sick people, so does just about everything else.
Yes it kills old sick people, so does just about everything else.
How do you know this? And so if you get infected, aren't aware of it, and then transmit it unknowingly to someone else who then dies from it, would you be blameless?
I know it because the information is available to anyone who wants to look for it.
Yes, the only way one should be held accountable for transmitting a disease is if they are aware of it.
No clue what that has to do with people who have recovered though.
People downplaying this are just plain ignorant. It is 10-15 times worse than the flu. You can give me stats about the flu...great. Falls in comparison to the percentages of COVID-19's mortality rate. Numbers numerically are higher with the flu no doubt but not the death rate percentages. How do people not understand this? Downplay it all you want. It's gonna get worse before it gets better. Stopping the spread is key and priority number one.
I don't like all the cancellations just like everyone else, but we will get past this and things will return to normal. For those who play sports it hurts worse than for those of us who are spectators. We need to remain calm and not succumb to fear. Follow common sense measures to keep yourself from contracting the infection. We will survive this and be better prepared for the future.
The main reason we "don't understand it" is because its yet to have happened on a large enough scale to tell.
Its mostly killed old Chinese men up to this point.
It's more dangerous to old people than the flu but probably less dangerous to everyone else.
This is how a lot of us feel. I think I could survive it but would my 82 year-old aunt?
So what level of isolation do I need to adhere to?
Are you still going to work and endangering people?
I'm going to be fine regardless.
You asked if a person who was unaware of infection would be at fault for accidentally infecting others.
So if one is unaware of infection what level of isolation does one need to adhere to to avoid being willfully ignorant and putting others at risk?
Because according to your logic the only way to be responsible is to avoid all human contact for some undetermined amount of time.
But in reality you probably didn't have any coherent theory to any of these comments.
Exactly. If this new virus comes even close to 50% of those figures in the next year I'll be stunned. Flu should had garnered the same knee-jerk reactions.
"There’s going to be a far more enormous hit to the economy and subsequent ripple effect resulting in something far worse than the virus itself." Bingo. Nailed it.
CV19 is roughly twice as contagious and somewhere between 10-30 times more lethal than the flu. If you don't understand the concept of flattening the curve by taking early, extreme actions, and the repercussions that would likely happen if we don't, there is no point arguing with you. You seem to be the one "expert" (at least from those who know anything about pandemics and viruses), who would decide against taking extreme actions, and the sooner the better.
Other countries do. Look at France if you want to see where we are headed if we don't act immediately, and we might still, with the delays in strong leadership during February.
So, you are right and the medical experts are just being too extreme? I am pretty sure I would err on the side of precaution, particularly given our lack of testing and our leadership's failure to have a clear message throughout February and even recently. Lots of idiots (some on the board) think it is not particularly important to be following strict guidelines, "since they aren't at risk".
If the covid-19 "experts" are the same as the global warming "experts", we are in trouble!
Yes, because of course, most scientists know nothing and have evil ulterior motives.
Paranoid.
https://www.newsweek.com/flat-earth-soccer-spain-conspiracy-theory-globe-planets-space-1447044
Some food for you conspiracy nuts to chew on.
https://www.newsweek.com/flat-earth-soccer-spain-conspiracy-theory-globe-planets-space-1447044
Some food for you conspiracy nuts to chew on.
You don’t have to be a conspiracy nut to understand how grant funding works and some of the issues related to it.
Well if a soccer player said it, it must be true.....
https://www.newsweek.com/flat-earth-soccer-spain-conspiracy-theory-globe-planets-space-1447044
Some food for you conspiracy nuts to chew on.
Follow the thought. The poster I was responding to also think that global warming is a hoax so when they compare Covid-19 to it, that is what I am talking about. If you also thing Covid-19 is a hoax/overblown, well I can;'t do much for you other than hope your carelessness doesn't get someone else infected.
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