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Niang is such a class act

You don't even need to post for me to agree that we have plenty of D-bags in our fanbase and an AD that can be whiny and douchey as well. There are idiots in every fanbase and ours are way more outspoken than they need to be. History should give them perspective for being humble.

Now see that wasn't so hard was it?
 
What does **** Iowa mean and why would it be funny?

Seems more childish to me. Something someone with little or bro syndrome or a whinny 6 year old would use when getting their butt kicked on the playground at recess.

I know, I know simple and straightforward questions for clown fans isn't playing fair.
Now that I've called out our fans I'll note that we have a ridiculously loyal fanbase that sold 50k+ tickets for a FB team that had won 8 games in 3 years and will sell out games next year. 90% of our fanbase are great supporters and ambassadors of our university.
 
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Now that I've called out our fans I'll note that we have a ridiculously loyal fanbase that sold 50k+ tickets for a FB team that had won 8 games in 3 years and will sell out games next year. 90% of our fanbase are great supporters and ambassadors of our university.

isu does have loyal fans. Not buying the 90% part though.
 
“Must we ignore cry-clown fanatic now as well?”

The question is why do you care about Cyclone Fanatic? If what is posted on a Cyclone fan website upsets you, don’t go there. It really is just that simple. You can’t change the behavior of others but you can change your own.


“Seems more childish to me.”

Wow! Thank you. Coming from you that should be a great laugh for everyone on this board.
 
Now that I've called out our fans I'll note that we have a ridiculously loyal fanbase that sold 50k+ tickets for a FB team that had won 8 games in 3 years and will sell out games next year. 90% of our fanbase are great supporters and ambassadors of our university.


Curious to know how it was that you or any other isu fan was aware that isu would only win three games when purchasing tickets for the 2015 season?

The circumstances surrounding the stadium expansion helped sell tickets. I do not know too many unbiased observers though that would characterize isu fans as 'ridiculously loyal'. There are several examples of fans not showing up for critical games or leaving in throngs at half-time when things are not going well. That does not describe loyalty.

Which game(s) are you predicting will be sold out in 2016? Certainly fans will want to witness the new era of Matt Campbell, but not sure how far into the season that will carry.
 
Can we also flush Pollard and the donor who went after Bill Self? How about the racist isu student section at Hilton, flush them as well? Or is the argument that pointing out isu's behavior is much worse than the behavior itself.

No one will laugh really.

Why do you hate Jamie Pollard so much?
 
Curious to know how it was that you or any other isu fan was aware that isu would only win three games when purchasing tickets for the 2015 season?

The circumstances surrounding the stadium expansion helped sell tickets. I do not know too many unbiased observers though that would characterize isu fans as 'ridiculously loyal'. There are several examples of fans not showing up for critical games or leaving in throngs at half-time when things are not going well. That does not describe loyalty.

Which game(s) are you predicting will be sold out in 2016? Certainly fans will want to witness the new era of Matt Campbell, but not sure how far into the season that will carry.
I would say this is all fair:
- Expansion sold tickets - True
- No one knew that 3-9 would happen- True, but I'm not sure a bowl game was an expectation
-I can't think of a situation where fans filed out at HT this year as we lead Iowa, OSU, KU, Texas, UNI at halftime and were close w/TCU.
-Unless something amazing happens I would be surprised to sell-out more than the 1st 2 home games, but I'd also be surprised to sell less than 50k for any of the games

I think when people say we're "ridiculously loyal" I generally take that as not effectively holding people's feet to the fire through mediocrity.
 
meh, the comments weren''t awful.

I can't help wonder what the percentage is from clown nation that was more happy that the clowns won l ast night compared to the people who were more happy that Iowa lost.

The obsession about the Hawkeyes from Ames is almost creepy.
As a Cyclone fan, there is more agony in a loss to Iowa than there is thrill in a victory. I suspect Hawkeye fans have similar feelings with respect to Iowa State.
 
Why do you hate Jamie Pollard so much?

I don't hate him at all. I find great entertainment value in the way he acts. This fully supports my claim that acting like a douche is just a central pillar of the isu culture.
 
I would say this is all fair:
- Expansion sold tickets - True
- No one knew that 3-9 would happen- True, but I'm not sure a bowl game was an expectation
-I can't think of a situation where fans filed out at HT this year as we lead Iowa, OSU, KU, Texas, UNI at halftime and were close w/TCU.
-Unless something amazing happens I would be surprised to sell-out more than the 1st 2 home games, but I'd also be surprised to sell less than 50k for any of the games

I think when people say we're "ridiculously loyal" I generally take that as not effectively holding people's feet to the fire through mediocrity.


So, your original statement concerning only winning eight games in three years really is not applicable because no one could tell what type of season 2015 would be.

I did not realize that the 'ridiculously loyal' descriptive was limited to only 2015. There have been several examples over the years when isu fans have failed to appear (too cold, too busy...) or have left very early during the game itself. The OU game from 2014 might serve as an example; listed attendance of 50,784 (in a venue able to accommodate thousands more) and yet most objective accounts had fans leaving in droves during that game. How is that 'ridiculously loyal'?

So, really little has/is changing. isu typically has had its highest attended games at Jack Trice early in the season and then attendance tends to dwindle as the season winds down.

Who are these "people" you refer to crediting them with the 'ridiculously loyal' comments? Perhaps if we can see/read the actual statements then some better context and understanding about why they might have said this would be known.
 
As a Cyclone fan, there is more agony in a loss to Iowa than there is thrill in a victory. I suspect Hawkeye fans have similar feelings with respect to Iowa State.


Not sure of the point here....

Do any fans like losing? As for isu, it is heightened briefly by the fact that every local (statewide) outlet is shoving THE game down readers/listeners/viewers throats. In the broad scheme, a loss to isu is simply one game lost to an out of conference foe. Using football as the example, a loss to isu in September would not have prevented Iowa from playing Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game all other things being equal.
 
As a Cyclone fan, there is more agony in a loss to Iowa than there is thrill in a victory. I suspect Hawkeye fans have similar feelings with respect to Iowa State.

I was more relieved when the game ended than I was happy. That loss would have been brutal with how football season went
 
As a Cyclone fan, there is more agony in a loss to Iowa than there is thrill in a victory. I suspect Hawkeye fans have similar feelings with respect to Iowa State.
This year, my only feeling after the game was relief. I absolutely hate games where the primary concern ahead of time is to avoid losing, and this was one of them. That is NOT a knock on the Hawks.

I empathize to a certain extent with Hawkeye fans over the loss. It has happened the other way around. I'm thinking specifically of a game in Iowa City where Iowa's only lead was one point on a putback after a bad call at the final buzzer. Although ISU never led by 20 in that game, it led literally the entire game.
 
This year, my only feeling after the game was relief. I absolutely hate games where the primary concern ahead of time is to avoid losing, and this was one of them. That is NOT a knock on the Hawks.

I empathize to a certain extent with Hawkeye fans over the loss. It has happened the other way around. I'm thinking specifically of a game in Iowa City where Iowa's only lead was one point on a putback after a bad call at the final buzzer. Although ISU never led by 20 in that game, it led literally the entire game.
I was at that game. I don't recall ever seeing a game where one team led the entire game and lost. The clock was at 0:00 before the ball went through to give Iowa the win. That was indeed painful.
 
I was at that game. I don't recall ever seeing a game where one team led the entire game and lost. The clock was at 0:00 before the ball went through to give Iowa the win. That was indeed painful.
Unless the rules changed since then the ball does not have to go through the net before the clock hits 0:00. The ball just has to leave the players hand, doesn't matter how long it takes to get it through the net as long as no one touches it.
 
As a Cyclone fan, there is more agony in a loss to Iowa than there is thrill in a victory. I suspect Hawkeye fans have similar feelings with respect to Iowa State.

I am typically more annoyed with losing to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern etc than I am when Iowa loses to ISU. It stings more in football, as losses mean so much more but a strong showing in conference can make up for it. In basketball, there are just so many more games to be played.

My experiences with Cyclone fans on social media is that even the Cyclones aren't playing Iowa, they are truly happier when the hawkeyes lose.
 
I am typically more annoyed with losing to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern etc than I am when Iowa loses to ISU. It stings more in football, as losses mean so much more but a strong showing in conference can make up for it. In basketball, there are just so many more games to be played.

My experiences with Cyclone fans on social media is that even the Cyclones aren't playing Iowa, they are truly happier when the hawkeyes lose.

A lot of Iowa fans seemed pretty happy when ISU lost to UAB. It goes both ways
 
A lot of Iowa fans seemed pretty happy when ISU lost to UAB. It goes both ways
I guarantee you that no hawkeye fan was happier about Iowa State losing than they were that Iowa was advancing in the tourney.

I would anticipate that the number of cyclone fans that were happier about the hawkeyes losing the B1G championship game the other weekend than they were about any of the cyclone wins over the last 2-3 years in football (that weren't against Iowa) is high.
 
I guarantee you that no hawkeye fan was happier about Iowa State losing than they were that Iowa was advancing in the tourney.

I would anticipate that the number of cyclone fans that were happier about the hawkeyes losing the B1G championship game the other weekend than they were about any of the cyclone wins over the last 2-3 years in football (that weren't against Iowa) is high.

I guarantee you no ISU fan has ever been happier about Iowa losing a game than ISU winning a game.
 
A lot of Iowa fans seemed pretty happy when ISU lost to UAB. It goes both ways


No, it really does not.

For instance, there are fans from several Big Ten schools that frequent HR on occasion. Various parts of our state claim the rivalry most close in geography (east:Illini, NE:Wisconsin, North central:Minnesota, west:Nebraska.) Each of these fan bases have posted on HR this fall during football season.

The same does not hold true for isu. You would be hard pressed to identify another rivalry as strong in the minds of isu fans as is Iowa.

When isu lost to UAB, it was news. Since then, the only time it is mentioned here is when ill intentioned isu fans get enough courage to come here to HR to boast about how good they are. If Iowa happens to lose to another school/team, some of those very same isu fans (and trolls) are here first and foremost to strike up the vitriol. Show me all of the posts on CR when isu lost to UAB last March.
 
I guarantee you no ISU fan has ever been happier about Iowa losing a game than ISU winning a game.
I dunno. I wouldn't be surprised if some ISU fans were happier to see Iowa lose to Michigan State in football than to see ISU beat Kansas. They didn't happen the same day, of course, if that's what you mean.
 
I know a few Hawkeye fans that were more excited about ISU losing to UAB than they were about Iowa beating Davidson. Both fan bases have idiots


So, exactly which team is isu's most hated rival through all sports (football, men's basketball and wrestling - as those were the only activities that really mattered in Ames according to at least one isu fan here in another thread)?

The rather aimless attempt to lump all fan bases into one category is fun to a point. To not admit the distinct differences between Iowa and isu fan bases is absurd.
 
So, exactly which team is isu's most hated rival through all sports (football, men's basketball and wrestling - as those were the only activities that really mattered in Ames according to at least one isu fan here in another thread)?

The rather aimless attempt to lump all fan bases into one category is fun to a point. To not admit the distinct differences between Iowa and isu fan bases is absurd.

Iowa is ISU's biggest rival and ISU is Iowa's biggest rival
 
Iowa is ISU's biggest rival and ISU is Iowa's biggest rival

You could not be more right on the first part of your statement and more wrong on the second.

isu will never be Iowa's biggest rival. Iowa has achieved and will continue to strive to do the best they can in conference competition first and foremost. This just completed regularly scheduled football season is case in point. Iowa's goals included winning all of their scheduled games and they accomplished that. However, another goal was to be Big Ten champions and while the Hawks fell short on that in the CCG, beating isu has zero bearing. How can a game against your 'biggest' rival have no bearing?

Well, same goes for isu, you say. Well, think about that for just a minute or two. How realistic is it for isu to plan on winning a big xii championship in football? Beating Iowa in football, in many regards, is the extent of hope for isu currently. Perhaps the new coaching staff will realign that thinking, but for now it is why isu fans feel that Iowa just has to be the biggest rival and that that is reciprocated from Iowa fans.
 
You could not be more right on the first part of your statement and more wrong on the second.

isu will never be Iowa's biggest rival. Iowa has achieved and will continue to strive to do the best they can in conference competition first and foremost. This just completed regularly scheduled football season is case in point. Iowa's goals included winning all of their scheduled games and they accomplished that. However, another goal was to be Big Ten champions and while the Hawks fell short on that in the CCG, beating isu has zero bearing. How can a game against your 'biggest' rival have no bearing?

Well, same goes for isu, you say. Well, think about that for just a minute or two. How realistic is it for isu to plan on winning a big xii championship in football? Beating Iowa in football, in many regards, is the extent of hope for isu currently. Perhaps the new coaching staff will realign that thinking, but for now it is why isu fans feel that Iowa just has to be the biggest rival and that that is reciprocated from Iowa fans.

Haha ok whatever makes you feel better.

Beating Iowa in basketball has zero bearing for ISU. Beating Kansas and other conference opponents means way more to ISU
 
Haha ok whatever makes you feel better.

Beating Iowa in basketball has zero bearing for ISU. Beating Kansas and other conference opponents means way more to ISU


Sure... that explains students camping out for three days prior for the non-conference opponent.

And, the incessant booing from the crowd.

And the storming of the court afterwards - beating an unranked foe even.

And all of the isu fans here on an Iowa message board.

(BTW.... when was the most recent time that isu beat Kansas and other conference opponents for the real big xii/big 8 basketball championship? How old were you when that last happened?)
 
Haha ok whatever makes you feel better.

Beating Iowa in basketball has zero bearing for ISU. Beating Kansas and other conference opponents means way more to ISU

The court storming will tell us the answer. I have a feeling outside of KU the clones won't storm is the court.
 
Sure... that explains students camping out for three days prior for the non-conference opponent.

And, the incessant booing from the crowd.

And the storming of the court afterwards - beating an unranked foe even.

And all of the isu fans here on an Iowa message board.

(BTW.... when was the most recent time that isu beat Kansas and other conference opponents for the real big xii/big 8 basketball championship? How old were you when that last happened?)

If you don't think Iowa State is Iowa's biggest rival you are just wrong. My biggest goal is a Big 12 title and I'd rather beat any conference opponent than Iowa in basketball, that doesn't change who ISU's biggest rival is.
 
“Must we ignore cry-clown fanatic now as well?”

The question is why do you care about Cyclone Fanatic? If what is posted on a Cyclone fan website upsets you, don’t go there. It really is just that simple. You can’t change the behavior of others but you can change your own.


“Seems more childish to me.”

Wow! Thank you. Coming from you that should be a great laugh for everyone on this board.

What is posted on cry-clown fanatic doesn't upset me in the least. The hate and d-bag behavior on display in there is indicative of my overall argument that being a douche is at the core of the isu culture. Same thing with isu students who hurl racial slurs at Iowa Cheerleaders. Same thing with the douche Pollard.

I love it when clone fans come here act like little bro and then get pissed when they can't defend all the douchy behavior isu puts on display continuously. Maybe clone fans should spend more time changing their behavior than being pissed at me for simply pointing it out.

Long live cry-clown fanatic, because no matter how douchy they act, clone fans will stand and cheer it on.
 
It's common sense. If you don't think ISU is Iowa's biggest rival I'd love to hear who you think it was. It'll be pretty easy to debunk


I would say Minnesota is a bigger rival than Iowa State. minny fans and clone fans can get together and have a nice circle jerk while chanting iowa hate chants though.
 
Argume
You could not be more right on the first part of your statement and more wrong on the second.

isu will never be Iowa's biggest rival. Iowa has achieved and will continue to strive to do the best they can in conference competition first and foremost. This just completed regularly scheduled football season is case in point. Iowa's goals included winning all of their scheduled games and they accomplished that. However, another goal was to be Big Ten champions and while the Hawks fell short on that in the CCG, beating isu has zero bearing. How can a game against your 'biggest' rival have no bearing?

Well, same goes for isu, you say. Well, think about that for just a minute or two. How realistic is it for isu to plan on winning a big xii championship in football? Beating Iowa in football, in many regards, is the extent of hope for isu currently. Perhaps the new coaching staff will realign that thinking, but for now it is why isu fans feel that Iowa just has to be the biggest rival and that that is reciprocated from Iowa fans.
Arguments about who's biggest rival is who, who's the littlest brother, who is whose Super Bowl, which fanbase is more idiotic/unclassy, what our team has done in the last 5 or 10 or 50 years. It is all very sophomoric and childish and reminds me that most message board posters probably aren't adults.
 
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