Niang is such a class act
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So Iowa needs help from the opposing fan base to sell out a home game against it's biggest rival?
No, he's saying Minnesota doesn't think of Iowa as their biggest rival, but Minnesota is Iowa's!
No I am saying there are not many Minnesota fans that would drive to IC for a basketball game but there are clown fans that would.
Iowa can't get 15,000 people to come watch their team play against their biggest rival?
It was a 6:00 tip on a Thursday. Oh and Iowa outdrew little bro last year so maybe you want to re-think attendance smack.
I could agree with that along with rather foolish statements made by some... 'ridiculously loyal' immediately comes to mind.
Why would the time/day matter when Iowa is playing their biggest rival at home? It's not like you have to sell out a huge stadium it's just 15,000 people
That's it? Attendance for one game/event is what you want to offer up as conclusive proof of which teams are genuine rivals?
List the top ten attended football games at Jack Trice. How many big xii/8 opponents do you have on that list? Now, go to the data base for Kinnick. Are there at least ten other schools that have helped fill that venue to capacity over the years?
Same for men's basketball. Why was/is it that unranked Iowa sold out Hilton last week when there were big xii games with unsold tickets just last winter?
Wrestling? Iowa just established a new single dual meet event record in November. The opponent was Oklahoma State, not isu. Why was that if isu is Iowa's 'biggest rival'?
Really a weak effort from you on this.
Not at all sure of your intended meaning here. Are you now stating that the 'ridiculously loyal' comment was meant to apply to someone other than those reading HR?
Or, are you simply trying to sweep that comment under a rug somewhere now realizing how ridiculous it sounds?
Because Iowa draws from around the state. 6:00 tip on a week night is as likely for a sellout.
I think the most glaring issue is Iowa fans didn't go out and support the team against their biggest rival last year. Could have been a big reason they lost that game
Sure they did. 253,817 is bigger than 228,714. Like I said Iowa outdrew little bro.
No the biggest reason the Hawks lost was they didn't play well enough to win. Unlike the isu game this year, Minnesota was good enough to beat us on their own they didn't need our help to do it.
Many factors play into attendance of games/events. Just for starters we have heard about it being too cold, being to damp, being to late, being too inconvenient as excuses for isu fans not showing up at Jack Trice - sometimes for incredibly critical games. Why is there a different standard for Iowa with you?
On November 14th, Kinnick Stadium was sold out in a game featuring those very Minnesota Gophers. How do you explain that? Better even yet, isu played I believe a game at Trice that very same day... give us the attendance for that game seeing as isu supposedly sold out each the UNI and Iowa games earlier this season.
Says a fan of the school that just completed renovations/expansion to bring its football venue all the way up to 61,500 !
Why only 61,500? We have heard all the clamor of more students, more local students, more fans... where are they?
Minnesota, like Iowa considers Wisconsin and Iowa as rivals. Read more and post less often... it is fairly well documented that Minnesota fans have been known to chant 'we hate Iowa' even when Iowa is not the opponent at the time.
Quite the excuse....err, assumption.
If it only wasn't for the 40 (count 'em) years now that isu has called Jack Trice home. In more that 40 years, Iowa and UNI occupy space in top ten attended games in Ames, Iowa.
So much for your theory.
HF,
OK, my fault for trying to have a reasonable conversation with someone who can’t manage a coherent thought. I should have known better.
You asked me a question and I gave you an answer. If you don't like my responses then don't post here.
You have a boner for the fact that I stated Cyclone fans are "ridiculously loyal." ISU has had one winning season since 2005 (7-6). Attendance is miles ahead of what it was a decade ago. What would Kinnick look like after a run like that? They couldn't sell out a game when they were 10-0, on senior day, clinching the big 10 west. You can criticize what I say, but I'm not backing off that statement. We may be a-holes but our loyalty to our team isn't in question.
"Attract a larger crowd"
Iowa State attracted an averaged a crowd of 14,295. Iowa averaged 14,101. Since 14,295 is greater than 14,101, Iowa State was 19th in attendance rankings, and Iowa was 20th.
Or should we compare attendance to capacity? Where Iowa State averaged 99.4% capacity per game while Iowa only averaged 91.6%.
Maybe you want to rethink attendance smack.
I can assure you that Iowa State could sell hundreds more tickets but they are not available. We were only able to get tickets for two games on the first minute they were available to the public. A couple of years ago I went to a game at Iowa against a nationally ranked team and we didn't buy our tickets until we arrived at the game.
If Iowa sells out their games they will have a bigger attendance because Carver has more seats than Hilton.
You didn't - just as I did not ever disagree.
Where you are mistaken is that the reverse is true concerning the two schools/teams. isu isn't now, never was and most likely never will be Iowa's biggest rival.
Upset? Take your ball and run along then like a good little clone fan.
You made the assertion, even phrased it as if it were some sort of common knowledge widely used and accepted. I merely questioned the truth/accuracy of your statement. Thus far, I see nothing in support of the claim that isu fans are 'ridiculously loyal'. Still very few sellouts for football games at Jack Trice - generally those that do happen are at the very beginning of the season and then the attendance dwindles as the season progresses into what should be the most important period (conference play).
For the 2015 season, isu averaged 56,519 per game which is good enough for 41st best on the year of six home games. The last time Kinnick saw as few fans as that was along about 1978 and Hawk fans came in numbers similar to what isu now draws as early as the early 1960's. Over half a century ago Iowa was attracting as many fans as isu is in 2015. Really stop and think about that.
For the Iowa versus Purdue game on November 21, there was an announced attendance of over 62,000. No, not sold to capacity, but not bad considering a snow storm that went through the area lasting until just hours prior to kick-off. How many fans were at the isu-Oklahoma State game in Ames for the seniors final game? Or, maybe an even better point of reference might be the isu hosting of Kansas for the final home game of the 2013 football season. The record indicates that 54,081 people purchased tickets for the game, but I assure you it was not even close to being that many people at the stadium for that game. Why? Too cold, that's why.
Yeah, ridiculously loyal.
Yep 258k is LARGER than 228k. Try reading. Like I said Iowa outdrew little bro.
Everyone knows and agrees that isu is a basketball school. The only real problem with that is that basketball cannot, on its own, sustain the longevity of isu as a member of one of the Power 5 conferences used to determine the football championship in major college athletics.
Depends entirely what is being discussed. It appears that Iowa may have scheduled more home games than did isu thus giving Iowa more fans overall during that particular season.
Is that wrong/bad?
The real question here is why was isu's attendance anything less than capacity for Hilton in 2014-15. Highly touted. Playing reasonably well. Fairly good quality of opponents. What prevented isu from completely selling every last available seat for every game?
Yeah, and it even is based in fact... a concept that I am now firmly convinced is completely foreign to you.
Obviously, Iowa had more home games, 2 more to be exact, thus a higher total number. However 100 wanted to talk "attendance smack". How many times when talking about attendance does one compare the total number, compared to averages? Never, because a team that has more home games will most likely have a higher total.
I'm not sure what 99.4% of full capacity ranks compared to other schools, but I'd imagine it would be towards the top.
The same question could be asked for Iowa football this year. They were 12-0, yet had extremely low attendance numbers compared to years past.
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