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Obviously, Iowa had more home games, 2 more to be exact, thus a higher total number. However 100 wanted to talk "attendance smack". How many times when talking about attendance does one compare the total number, compared to averages? Never, because a team that has more home games will most likely have a higher total.

I'm not sure what 99.4% of full capacity ranks compared to other schools, but I'd imagine it would be towards the top.

The same question could be asked for Iowa football this year. They were 12-0, yet had extremely low attendance numbers compared to years past.

Well, obviously then Iowa had more total attendees (paid attendance) during the 2014-15 season and that matters because it generates revenues for the athletic department. In (your) theory, it is best to schedule as few games as possible, but make them against quality opposition so that the team/department can then lay claim to averaging more attendees per game. I don't know any financial institution that is transacting 'averages' of attendance, only dollars. Don't ever mistake the fact that money is the overriding goal and responsibility of the AD.

Percentages of capacity are very weak for similar reasons. Yes, isu nearly sold out to capacity - but, that only tells part of the story. What were tickets priced at for instance? The question that no one seems able or willing to address here is why isu failed to reach, in your vernacular, 100% last season (see below).

Compare the pre-season hype of isu men's basketball 2014-15 to that for Iowa football 2015. Tell me that even you are not able to recognize a very distinct difference in the overall mood of fans going into those seasons. No one expected Iowa to go anything close to undefeated on the year just completed. Compare that to 'potential final four' team in basketball for isu. Iowa 'aveeraged' 63,142 per game this season which is over 6,500 better per game than isu drew to its new and expanded facility. The use of the term 'extremely low' is opinionated, especially given that isu has never played before that many fans at a home contest in Ames, but hey, it is what it is. I am guessing that demand for Iowa home games will see an increase in the next year or so. Can you say the same for isu football?
 
Well, obviously then Iowa had more total attendees (paid attendance) during the 2014-15 season and that matters because it generates revenues for the athletic department. In (your) theory, it is best to schedule as few games as possible, but make them against quality opposition so that the team/department can then lay claim to averaging more attendees per game. I don't know any financial institution that is transacting 'averages' of attendance, only dollars. Don't ever mistake the fact that money is the overriding goal and responsibility of the AD.

Percentages of capacity are very weak for similar reasons. Yes, isu nearly sold out to capacity - but, that only tells part of the story. What were tickets priced at for instance? The question that no one seems able or willing to address here is why isu failed to reach, in your vernacular, 100% last season (see below).

Compare the pre-season hype of isu men's basketball 2014-15 to that for Iowa football 2015. Tell me that even you are not able to recognize a very distinct difference in the overall mood of fans going into those seasons. No one expected Iowa to go anything close to undefeated on the year just completed. Compare that to 'potential final four' team in basketball for isu. Iowa 'aveeraged' 63,142 per game this season which is over 6,500 better per game than isu drew to its new and expanded facility. The use of the term 'extremely low' is opinionated, especially given that isu has never played before that many fans at a home contest in Ames, but hey, it is what it is. I am guessing that demand for Iowa home games will see an increase in the next year or so. Can you say the same for isu football?

LOL yes, that is EXACTLY my theory of what to do. Goodness, 100 wanted to talk attendance smack, so I posted a link to the 2014-15 NCAA Attendance Leaders where Iowa State was higher than Iowa. If you want to nitpick every little detail to degrade Iowa State and make Iowa sound superior, go for it but at the end of the day, Iowa State was 19th in attendance, Iowa 20th.

The article states: "Syracuse University slightly edged the University of Kentucky for the home attendance title for the second year in a row, as the Orange averaged 23,854 while the Wildcats brought in 23,572 a game."

Even though Kentucky had 18,496 more total attendees, Syracuse received the home attendance title.
 
Unless the rules changed since then the ball does not have to go through the net before the clock hits 0:00. The ball just has to leave the players hand, doesn't matter how long it takes to get it through the net as long as no one touches it.
I wasn't claiming there was any controversy. The basket was clearly good. It was just unusual that with no time left on the clock, Iowa had never led in the game. But the ball was in the air and went through the basket for an Iowa win. I don't believe I've ever seen a team win that never led at any point in the game until after the clock expired.
 
Haha ok whatever makes you feel better.

Beating Iowa in basketball has zero bearing for ISU. Beating Kansas and other conference opponents means way more to ISU
This is a good example of what I was saying before. Iowa State beating Kansas is way bigger thrill than a win over Iowa. But losing to Iowa hurts way more than a loss to Kansas. The exception would be if a championship is at stake, then a loss to Kansas would hurt more than normal.
 
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LOL yes, that is EXACTLY my theory of what to do. Goodness, 100 wanted to talk attendance smack, so I posted a link to the 2014-15 NCAA Attendance Leaders where Iowa State was higher than Iowa. If you want to nitpick every little detail to degrade Iowa State and make Iowa sound superior, go for it but at the end of the day, Iowa State was 19th in attendance, Iowa 20th.

The article states: "Syracuse University slightly edged the University of Kentucky for the home attendance title for the second year in a row, as the Orange averaged 23,854 while the Wildcats brought in 23,572 a game."

Even though Kentucky had 18,496 more total attendees, Syracuse received the home attendance title.


And I bet that Syracuse is out bragging right now on some rival message board all about that 'attendance title'.

BTW - is there a trophy yet for that prestigious award?

How did Syracuse do in the percent of capacity category? Are you and other isu fans now going to inundate the Syracuse (Big Orange) board to let them know how superior isu really is?

Last question: Now that the old regime is out for isu football, how "dang good" was Wally Burnham's defense?
 
You didn't - just as I did not ever disagree.

Where you are mistaken is that the reverse is true concerning the two schools/teams. isu isn't now, never was and most likely never will be Iowa's biggest rival.

Which circles back to Iowa fans must really suck if they have 2,000 open seats to a home basketball game against their biggest rival
 
This is a good example of what I was saying before. Iowa State beating Kansas is way bigger thrill than a win over Iowa. But losing to Iowa hurts way more than a loss to Kansas. The exception would be if a championship is at stake, then a loss to Kansas would hurt more than normal.

I don't get this thinking. does a loss to iowa "hurt" more because you won't have "bragging rights' in your worklplace?
 
Which circles back to Iowa fans must really suck if they have 2,000 open seats to a home basketball game against their biggest rival


You seem hell bent on getting validation from Hawkeye fans. You guys are like a dog that is begging for a pat on the head and a "good girl"

I am not a basketball guy. Outside of watching the Hawkeyes, I have zero interest in basketball so i may come from a football perspective. Minnesota is a bigger rival than Iowa State (Floyd of Rosedale agrees with me). I would say Wisconsin is also a bigger rival than Iowa State (perhaps more so than minnesota in basketball?). it brings me more joy in beating the badgers than the cyclones in football and in basketball, it also irritates me more than losing to them than Iowa State in either sport). losing in general sucks, losing to iowa state in football sucks in a WTF? sense. At least Iowa State basketball is relevant. But the interest in the matchup against Iowa State begins and ends during the week of the game for me.

The only hawkeye fans that would say even think that Iowa State is Iowa's biggest rival are people that have to put up with you people and your constant need for validation and constant cry for attention on a daily basis, as a Hawkeye win shuts you guys up for a while.

as far as your statement above
how does the attendance compare to other games?
Of course, a game between Iowa and Iowa State is going to have a lot more people, just for the fact that you have many more cyclone fans around the area than gopher fans. Gametime, the particular day its played on, and weather can play a factor.
 
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It brings me more joy beating any conference opponent than it does beating Iowa in any sport. I guess maybe I'm wrong on this one and Iowa isn't ISU's biggest rival
 
LOL yes, that is EXACTLY my theory of what to do. Goodness, 100 wanted to talk attendance smack, so I posted a link to the 2014-15 NCAA Attendance Leaders where Iowa State was higher than Iowa. If you want to nitpick every little detail to degrade Iowa State and make Iowa sound superior, go for it but at the end of the day, Iowa State was 19th in attendance, Iowa 20th.

The article states: "Syracuse University slightly edged the University of Kentucky for the home attendance title for the second year in a row, as the Orange averaged 23,854 while the Wildcats brought in 23,572 a game."

Even though Kentucky had 18,496 more total attendees, Syracuse received the home attendance title.

I said and it is still correct, Iowa outdrew little bro. At least as long as 258k is larger than 228k.

I didn't say Iowa averaged more. I didn't say % of capacity, I said Iowa outdrew little bro. How much more does isu bring than Iowa because of % of capacity filled? How much revenue does littl bro bring in over Iowa because their average was higher?

Pretty sure on that the other hand Iowa can point directly to the increased revenue of 258k as opposed to 228k.

Will clown fan grasp this simple concept yet? Doubt it but hey that is what is so entertaining about clown fans.
 
It brings me more joy beating any conference opponent than it does beating Iowa in any sport. I guess maybe I'm wrong on this one and Iowa isn't ISU's biggest rival

Then quote all your posts on the TCU site after the clowns beat TCU last year. Meanwhile you find it necessary to post on an Iowa site.

Why is this, if not for little bro syndrome?
 
Try reading you might like it. I said unlike isu THIS YEAR Minny didn't need our help to beat us last year.

I don't even know what this means. ISU did not play well but it's not their fault they made plays down the stretch and Iowa folded.

Also Iowa probably beats their biggest rival Minnesota last year if they had fans show up.
 
No the biggest reason the Hawks lost was they didn't play well enough to win. Unlike the isu game this year, Minnesota was good enough to beat us on their own they didn't need our help to do it.

You replied that neither little bro or Minny needed help winning in Carver last year.

So again I clearly said little bro needed Iowa's help to win THIS year.

Get back to us when you can read BEFORE SHOOTING OFF YOUR MOUTH.
 
You replied that neigh lit one bro or Minny needed help winning in Carver last year.

So again I clearly said isu needed Iowa's help to win THIS year.

Get back to us when you can read BEFORE SHOOTING OFF YOUR MOUTH.

So I guess I should be thanking Fran?
 
So I guess I should be thanking Fran?

Whatever you want to do. Maybe next year the clowns will be good enough to beat Iowa without any help. They sure couldn't do it this year.

Still waiting for all you posts from other Texas Ten fan sites if they are more important than Iowa. Or is it your little bro syndrome that brings you here so much?
 
Yep trying reading before you shoot off your mouth.

Ok, this is public thank you to Fran for giving ISU that game. Hopefully for RPI's sake Iowa fans actually show up this year when their biggest rival comes into town on Feb 14th. Don't want them losing again to a bad Minnesota team
 
Is this stupid thread really still going?
It's like the idiot bash board in here between CyCity and 100years...
Get that post count up boys!
 
Ok, this is public thank you to Fran for giving ISU that game. Hopefully for RPI's sake Iowa fans actually show up this year when their biggest rival comes into town on Feb 14th. Don't want them losing again to a bad Minnesota team

Still waiting for all your posts on the other Texas Ten fan sites. I mean if they are more important to you than Iowa there must be hundreds of posts from cycity he can post right?

Or maybe he posts on big bro's site because of his little bro syndrome. His next several posts will prove who is right now won't it?
 
I don't get this thinking. does a loss to iowa "hurt" more because you won't have "bragging rights' in your worklplace?
I don't care about bragging rights in the office because I don't bring it up with Hawkeye friends after we win, but when ISU loses I never hear the end of it.
 
I can assure you that Iowa State could sell hundreds more tickets but they are not available. We were only able to get tickets for two games on the first minute they were available to the public. A couple of years ago I went to a game at Iowa against a nationally ranked team and we didn't buy our tickets until we arrived at the game.

If Iowa sells out their games they will have a bigger attendance because Carver has more seats than Hilton.
You can? Great, so when Transfer U starts to fizzle and fade away a bit will these sellouts continue? Your past doesn't support that it will at all.
 
I don't care about bragging rights in the office because I don't bring it up with Hawkeye friends after we win, but when ISU loses I never hear the end of it.

Then why do you post here? We know the answer, the inate little bro syndrome that is hard wired into clown fans demands that they post here.
 
You can? Great, so when Transfer U starts to fizzle and fade away a bit will these sellouts continue? Your past doesn't support that it will at all.

Pollard is prepared for this. He will discount the ticket prices in order to get volume. I wonder how isu bond holders feel about all of the ticket discounting Pollard had to do this year for his shiny new grain bin end end zone?
 
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You can? Great, so when Transfer U starts to fizzle and fade away a bit will these sellouts continue? Your past doesn't support that it will at all.
Probably not, especially at current prices. Today if you want a seat in the lower bowl, it takes a $12,500 donation. If you already have seats, you can keep them at $5,000. If the sell outs continue, those $5,000 donors will probably have to step up to keep their seats.
 
Probably not, especially at current prices. Today if you want a seat in the lower bowl, it takes a $12,500 donation. If you already have seats, you can keep them at $5,000. If the sell outs continue, those $5,000 donors will probably have to step up to keep their seats.
Good, some common sense here. Iowa is emerging still from the worst stretch in history and it wasn't even close. Alienation from Alford for 5-10 years splitting the fanbase, just not the same now. Having DSM and all your alumni base within 50 miles def helps ISU big time for week night hoops games. I get to 2-3 hoops games a year as the drive from DSM is tough during week night.
 
Probably not, especially at current prices. Today if you want a seat in the lower bowl, it takes a $12,500 donation. If you already have seats, you can keep them at $5,000. If the sell outs continue, those $5,000 donors will probably have to step up to keep their seats.


This all should be evident when the complete financials detailing revenues and expenses for the various sports. From just what is heard/read here on HR alone, isu should be rolling in the dough.
Let's see what the future beholds.

(Preemptive strike: some isu fans will say that the financials are not the whole story because of accounting differences.... it never ends.)
 
This all should be evident when the complete financials detailing revenues and expenses for the various sports. From just what is heard/read here on HR alone, isu should be rolling in the dough.
Let's see what the future beholds.

(Preemptive strike: some isu fans will say that the financials are not the whole story because of accounting differences.... it never ends.)
These arguments are all in vain.
What ISU fans want to hear: "you guys have a great marketing department that has your fanbase and enrollment trending up. You play in the best conference EVER, and you lose more because of your SOS."
What Iowa fans want to hear: "Your fanbase dwarfs ISU, you are truly big brother. ISU fans and national media respect the heck out of your athletic department. There is no advantage ISU has in ANY way."

There are some facts and fallacies spread throughout. All sarcasm and irony will be lost on 5fan5.
 
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And I bet that Syracuse is out bragging right now on some rival message board all about that 'attendance title'.

BTW - is there a trophy yet for that prestigious award?

How did Syracuse do in the percent of capacity category? Are you and other isu fans now going to inundate the Syracuse (Big Orange) board to let them know how superior isu really is?

Last question: Now that the old regime is out for isu football, how "dang good" was Wally Burnham's defense?

100 wanted to talk "attendance smack" and according to the NCAA Iowa State was 19th in attendance, Iowa 20th.
 
These arguments are all in vain.
What ISU fans want to hear: "you guys have a great marketing department that has your fanbase and enrollment trending up. You play in the best conference EVER, and you lose more because of your SOS."
What Iowa fans want to hear: "Your fanbase dwarfs ISU, you are truly big brother. ISU fans and national media respect the heck out of your athletic department. There is no advantage ISU has in ANY way."

There are some facts and fallacies spread throughout. All sarcasm and irony will be lost on 5fan5.


I'm still waiting for you to substantiate all of those touting isu fans to be 'ridiculously loyal'.
 
100 wanted to talk "attendance smack" and according to the NCAA Iowa State was 19th in attendance, Iowa 20th.


We can go round and round on this til the cows come home, MW.... because the very same NCAA that you reference indicates that Iowa had more paid attendees during the season you cite.
You already have acknowledged that fact.
 
Iowa had higher attendance because it is a bigger venue, ISU sells out games against their rivals and Iowa doesn't. There's really not much else to discuss
 
100 wanted to talk "attendance smack" and according to the NCAA Iowa State was 19th in attendance, Iowa 20th.

According to the NCAA Iowa outdrew isu 258k to 228k. Just as I said.

But now clone fan must flip it to % capacity or per game average.
 
Iowa had higher attendance because it is a bigger venue, ISU sells out games against their rivals and Iowa doesn't. There's really not much else to discuss

Where are all your posts at Texas Ten team sites? Apparently Iowa is all that matters to you or you would be posting somewhere other than here.

Keep ignoring and I will keep asking.

I win again.
 
Where are all your posts at Texas Ten team sites? Apparently Iowa is all that matters to you or you would be posting somewhere other than here.

Keep ignoring and I will keep asking.

I win again.

I do consider Iowa to be Iowa State's biggest rival.
 
Then why did you say you would rather win a game against any conference team in any sport over beating Iowa?

Because I would. Conference games mean a heck of a lot more than a non conference game. That doesn't change Iowa is our biggest rival.

Disclaimer: I would rather beat Iowa in wrestling than a conference opponent but I don't see that happen in the near future
 
One has got to be a tremendous sad sack loser to spend any time on another team's website. I have never and will never spend any of my time on ISU's rivals.com or other website. I thank God I am not as pathetic as all the ISU fans over here begging for validation to their sad lives. simply pathetic.
 
Because I would. Conference games mean a heck of a lot more than a non conference game. That doesn't change Iowa is our biggest rival.

Disclaimer: I would rather beat Iowa in wrestling than a conference opponent but I don't see that happen in the near future


I am going to go way out on a limb here and guess that isu has never beaten Iowa in wrestling during your lifetime.

Do not hold your breath nor bet your life savings on that happening anytime soon.
 
I am going to go way out on a limb here and guess that isu has never beaten Iowa in wrestling during your lifetime.

Do not hold your breath nor bet your life savings on that happening anytime soon.
Poll 100 random Iowans and ask them the score of this year's wrestling meet and see how many know the answer. Maybe 2-5%?
 
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