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***Official Caitlin/Fever/Kate/Meg Games Mega Thread***

I understand plenty, including that Kelsey Plummer's name is actually Kelsey Plum.

I haven't downplayed CC's success. I've stated that what she is doing is impressive. At the same time, I don't believe it's accurate to say she is "succeeding at a very high level."

This would involve winning. And again, I would bet money that CC agrees with me
By your criteria, Barry Sanders never succeeded at a high level. Your criteria is stupid.

The Fever will need to a acquire more talent before winning will be possible. Caitlin is already one of the best players in the league.
 
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WNBA players need to realize:

- The only reason the WNBA is relevant is because of Caitlin Clark

- There’s a difference between competitiveness and unsportsmanlike conduct.

- Jealousy of Caitlin Clark will continue to force fans to dislike them and tune out.

- If Caitlin Clark wasn’t in the league, millions of sports fans like myself wouldn’t be interested in watching the games.

- Clark is the hand that is feeding them. They’re making more money and able to fly charter because of her.

WNBA players, you don’t have to like Caitlin Clark but you have to respect the opportunities she’s introduced for individual players and the league as a whole.

Be grateful.


 
What's with the unbalanced schedules? Indiana plays their 11th game tonight. Three teams have only played 6 and four others have played 7. This league is a joke.

The schedule is a joke. They should have it posted online in crayon, just like the Final draft they made just before lunch break, recess, then finger painting.

My kindergartner plans better than this organization.
 
Clowns. Want to watch backstage WWE drama. Not basketball.
This is my point. The WNBA will continue to grow and attract more fans for a number of reasons. Clark is a big reason why. There will be huge numbers to watch her play until she retires. Expansion and even larger revenues on the horizon.

But, like it or not, you can’t ignore the drama generated by hysterical fans. What will Angel Reese do next? Will she / should she be fined? How will Caitlin Clark respond? Will the Fever sign an “enforcer”? Stay tuned!
 
I think the league will go down the toilet if the thug pieces of crap haters are not reined in.

Watching Clark get the tar beat out of her by jealous Aholes is no way to build a following. You will have millions of new fans turn it off and never come back.

I have to go out of my way to watch women’s basketball in the summer and what I see is embarrassing. A fresh talent gettin hipped checked like it’s hockey and the perpetrator being congratulated by teammates. Meanwhile I get to suffer through countless missed layups and bunny shots by “the women that built the league”.

Many see growth. I see the clock ticking because the fans that just started paying attention will never come back. Never.
 
This is my point. The WNBA will continue to grow and attract more fans for a number of reasons. Clark is a big reason why. There will be huge numbers to watch her play until she retires. Expansion and even larger revenues on the horizon.

But, like it or not, you can’t ignore the drama generated by hysterical fans. What will Angel Reese do next? Will she / should she be fined? How will Caitlin Clark respond? Will the Fever sign an “enforcer”? Stay tuned!
Again, I don’t think the words “hysteria” or “hysterical” mean what you think they mean.
 
So, I guess the entire Fever team is getting called out on social media for not responding aggressively? Because it has to sort itself with violence, or something? Or insinuated that they are complicit, or something?

That's just asking people to jump into a no-win situation any way you go about it. C'mon, clearly Boston has a rising career commentating on television, and she has to protect that. And other women will be seen as traitors to their WNBA senior sorority, possibly villified. How does it end? People want an actual fight, I guess. Is this just the build-up of the fight card?

It's asking a great deal. I feel bad for the team.

Clark herself can't win here because if they change the game away from this cartoonish mockery of basketball, she will be blamed for every flagrant foul or fine across the league. And if they simply allow it to continue, they create a sh*tstorm of escalations, and a toxic environment to play the game.
She didn't ask for, nor deserve, any of it, and yet people will take it out on her, and just hate her more.
I'm not looking forward to how it plays out, because it's all pretty frustrating and sad.

The weirdest thing I keep seeing is this idea that this is how the WNBA has always been, and this is expected, and people are somehow proud of the rugby and hazing. Just... no. This is what is being rejected (and not just regarding CC), part of why this basketball league has struggled to keep the lights on. Yeah, thank you for the introduction to watching the W, and huh, I now see why it's a crap product. Maybe play some clean basketball-- and get better at it.
 
So, I guess the entire Fever team is getting called out on social media for not responding aggressively? Because it has to sort itself with violence, or something? Or insinuated that they are complicit, or something?

That's just asking people to jump into a no-win situation any way you go about it. C'mon, clearly Boston has a rising career commentating on television, and she has to protect that. And other women will be seen as traitors to their WNBA senior sorority, possibly villified. How does it end? People want an actual fight, I guess. Is this just the build-up of the fight card?

It's asking a great deal. I feel bad for the team.

Clark herself can't win here because if they change the game away from this cartoonish mockery of basketball, she will be blamed for every flagrant foul or fine across the league. And if they simply allow it to continue, they create a sh*tstorm of escalations, and a toxic environment to play the game.
She didn't ask for, nor deserve, any of it, and yet people will take it out on her, and just hate her more.
I'm not looking forward to how it plays out, because it's all pretty frustrating and sad.

The weirdest thing I keep seeing is this idea that this is how the WNBA has always been, and this is expected, and people are somehow proud of the rugby and hazing. Just... no. This is what is being rejected (and not just regarding CC), part of why this basketball league has struggled to keep the lights on. Yeah, thank you for the introduction to watching the W, and huh, I now see why it's a crap product. Maybe play some clean basketball-- and get better at it.
The whole thing has gotten weird. That Chennedy dude posted this, and that sent the Twitter verse into a frenzy. You got people attacking Wheeler, asking why they won’t stick up for their teammate.
 
The NBA has spent decades and billions of dollars carefully curating its public image, on and off the court. That's David Stern's greatest legacy. The WNBA has spent the past 25 years ignored in the shadows. All of a sudden the brightest lights are being shined on it and it's exposing itself as an underdeveloped podunk league. The teams, coaches, players, referees, announcers, et al. have never had to live up to any standard before and now everybody expects them to turn into a legitimate top-level professional league overnight. It will take some time for everyone to adjust, but just understand for the time being everything will be a shit show because there are very few people involved who are up to the task.
 
Reece takes the L and gets a fine, that makes this a pretty good weekend.

Even if the W upgraded that cheapshot to a flagrant, the most important thing is that it finally woke people up to the fact that CC is getting destroyed out there by jealous shit heads.
 
So, I guess the entire Fever team is getting called out on social media for not responding aggressively? Because it has to sort itself with violence, or something? Or insinuated that they are complicit, or something?

That's just asking people to jump into a no-win situation any way you go about it. C'mon, clearly Boston has a rising career commentating on television, and she has to protect that. And other women will be seen as traitors to their WNBA senior sorority, possibly villified. How does it end? People want an actual fight, I guess. Is this just the build-up of the fight card?

It's asking a great deal. I feel bad for the team.

Clark herself can't win here because if they change the game away from this cartoonish mockery of basketball, she will be blamed for every flagrant foul or fine across the league. And if they simply allow it to continue, they create a sh*tstorm of escalations, and a toxic environment to play the game.
She didn't ask for, nor deserve, any of it, and yet people will take it out on her, and just hate her more.
I'm not looking forward to how it plays out, because it's all pretty frustrating and sad.

The weirdest thing I keep seeing is this idea that this is how the WNBA has always been, and this is expected, and people are somehow proud of the rugby and hazing. Just... no. This is what is being rejected (and not just regarding CC), part of why this basketball league has struggled to keep the lights on. Yeah, thank you for the introduction to watching the W, and huh, I now see why it's a crap product. Maybe play some clean basketball-- and get better at it.
I totally agree with this. I guess I don’t understand thugs begetting more thugs.

I’m not even calling Carter a thug, I’m saying because she was aggressive. We need to have the other team be even more aggressive.WTF
 
The NBA has spent decades and billions of dollars carefully curating its public image, on and off the court. That's David Stern's greatest legacy. The WNBA has spent the past 25 years ignored in the shadows. All of a sudden the brightest lights are being shined on it and it's exposing itself as an underdeveloped podunk league. The teams, coaches, players, referees, announcers, et al. have never had to live up to any standard before and now everybody expects them to turn into a legitimate top-level professional league overnight. It will take some time for everyone to adjust, but just understand for the time being everything will be a shit show because there are very few people involved who are up to the task.
Correct
 
So, I guess the entire Fever team is getting called out on social media for not responding aggressively? Because it has to sort itself with violence, or something? Or insinuated that they are complicit, or something?

That's just asking people to jump into a no-win situation any way you go about it. C'mon, clearly Boston has a rising career commentating on television, and she has to protect that. And other women will be seen as traitors to their WNBA senior sorority, possibly villified. How does it end? People want an actual fight, I guess. Is this just the build-up of the fight card?

It's asking a great deal. I feel bad for the team.

Clark herself can't win here because if they change the game away from this cartoonish mockery of basketball, she will be blamed for every flagrant foul or fine across the league. And if they simply allow it to continue, they create a sh*tstorm of escalations, and a toxic environment to play the game.
She didn't ask for, nor deserve, any of it, and yet people will take it out on her, and just hate her more.
I'm not looking forward to how it plays out, because it's all pretty frustrating and sad.

The weirdest thing I keep seeing is this idea that this is how the WNBA has always been, and this is expected, and people are somehow proud of the rugby and hazing. Just... no. This is what is being rejected (and not just regarding CC), part of why this basketball league has struggled to keep the lights on. Yeah, thank you for the introduction to watching the W, and huh, I now see why it's a crap product. Maybe play some clean basketball-- and get better at it.
Yep.

I kind of chuckle at all the people, in this forum even, that are crying for Clark's teammates and coaches to do more to stick up for her.

There's has and continues to be lots of generalizations and presumptions/assumptions when it comes to everything Caitlin Clark and this sh** is no different.

And Sides is also stuck in a no-win situation because when she does stick up for Clark, people will say oh it's just because she was getting so much criticism for "not having her back".
 
What I found interesting is that no teammate of Clark’s stuck up for her when Carter hip checked her. One teammate ran the opposite way down the court. The closest teammate was the one that should have gotten in Carter’s face and perhaps knocked her on her butt. Instead she haphazardly walked over to Caitlyn. That of itself is troubling. During the NCAA or NBA games when a teammate falls or gets knocked down, at least 3 teammates literally sprint over to help the dude up. That tells me that Clark’s teammates are not on her side either. Just like Colorado Coach Prime said “When one fight, you all fight”. That didn’t happen and it should. Until Clark’s teammates stick for her moving forward, this bullying is going to get worse.
 
She occasionally says the right thing but she can’t hide her stripes. Pays lip service to the league having new popularity but is in denial as to why. Just wholly unlikeable. There aren’t that many likable players really. Probably Boston and plum. And of course Martin.
Honestly the league could PAY here $1000 to skip press conferences and I’d be happy. I won’t watch TV for catfights, I want to watch entertaining ball and the W maybe just ain’t it.

(I made an earnest effort to like Ángel, I really did. But I can’t stand her, like F#*& her levels of dislike after yesterday.)
 
What I found interesting is that no teammate of Clark’s stuck up for her when Carter hip checked her. One teammate ran the opposite way down the court. The closest teammate was the one that should have gotten in Carter’s face and perhaps knocked her on her butt. Instead she haphazardly walked over to Caitlyn. That of itself is troubling. During the NCAA or NBA games when a teammate falls or gets knocked down, at least 3 teammates literally sprint over to help the dude up. That tells me that Clark’s teammates are not on her side either. Just like Colorado Coach Prime said “When one fight, you all fight”. That didn’t happen and it should. Until Clark’s teammates stick for her moving forward, this bullying is going to get worse.
I think Boston was shocked, and she’s too nice to shove someone in anger. Also Clark only got bumped down, not punched in the face. Prefer to see professional behavior not some female Draymond myself.
 
So, I guess the entire Fever team is getting called out on social media for not responding aggressively? Because it has to sort itself with violence, or something? Or insinuated that they are complicit, or something?

That's just asking people to jump into a no-win situation any way you go about it. C'mon, clearly Boston has a rising career commentating on television, and she has to protect that. And other women will be seen as traitors to their WNBA senior sorority, possibly villified. How does it end? People want an actual fight, I guess. Is this just the build-up of the fight card?

It's asking a great deal. I feel bad for the team.

Clark herself can't win here because if they change the game away from this cartoonish mockery of basketball, she will be blamed for every flagrant foul or fine across the league. And if they simply allow it to continue, they create a sh*tstorm of escalations, and a toxic environment to play the game.
She didn't ask for, nor deserve, any of it, and yet people will take it out on her, and just hate her more.
I'm not looking forward to how it plays out, because it's all pretty frustrating and sad.

The weirdest thing I keep seeing is this idea that this is how the WNBA has always been, and this is expected, and people are somehow proud of the rugby and hazing. Just... no. This is what is being rejected (and not just regarding CC), part of why this basketball league has struggled to keep the lights on. Yeah, thank you for the introduction to watching the W, and huh, I now see why it's a crap product. Maybe play some clean basketball-- and get better at it.
100% agree on this take.
 
On the sports radio station here in Austin Nationwide Fox sports it's been all Caitlin all day. They wonder how they can keep the excitement up and the hype. Also wonder why all the rest of the league even some of her own teammates seem jealous. This is wild we are not having a national discussion about how good she is any longer. It's more about how many different ways is she going to get hammered. They said her fans are not happy.
 
Yep.

I kind of chuckle at all the people, in this forum even, that are crying for Clark's teammates and coaches to do more to stick up for her.

There's has and continues to be lots of generalizations and presumptions/assumptions when it comes to everything Caitlin Clark and this sh** is no different.

And Sides is also stuck in a no-win situation because when she does stick up for Clark, people will say oh it's just because she was getting so much criticism for "not having her back".

100%
 
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