Lets be real. If this shit doesn't calm down she's not going to be in the WNBA. She won't survive 4 years of this crap. Can you imagine what it must be like to not only have to deal with a big group of her opponenets, and haters, but then to have no one on her team or mgmt who appears to really have her back. CC had some issues at Iowa, but she had Kate, and Gabby, and Jada, and all the coaches in her corner. Who does she talk to now to keep her spirits up? As Whitlock said in his article, the Fever should be controlling access to her from media, except after games, and then in a controlled situation. This baiting of both sides involving Clark needs to be stopped. The weight on her right now, has to feel like an elephant is sitting on her chest.
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Something is going to blow. This can't continue. Wouldn't surprise me if this implodes Sunday.
People with an at least semi functioning brain can decipher. Theres still a bit more credibility to ABC, The NY Times, WaPo, WSJ, NPR, etc., with some actual journalistic ethical standards. Yes, there have been some major F-ups, especially in recent years. However, there is a considerable amount of morons who regurgitate the absolute garbage on social media (pizzagate, the deep state, the election was stolen, vaccines cause heart attacks and autism, there are multiple genders, transgender is a mental disorder, climate change is a hoax, climate change will kill all humanity, etc.) . It has the absolute lowest IQ loser’s falling prey to being brainwashed by propaganda from grifters.
I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop as well. And when it does it's going to be a bad scene.
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One dynamic is her independent wealth. She can tell the Fever "Look, I'm not playing for you anymore. Might as well trade me". My own guess is she finishes out the season, but her agent will be communicating this in the off season.
On the plus side today, Angel Reese and the Sky took an L at the hands of the awful Mystics.
Slightly disappointing though that Washington allowed Reese to hit a double double by the end of the game so that talking point will still get pushed by her stans.
Reese had 3 pts and maybe 4 rebs at half, finished with 10 pts on 3-10 shooting and 14 boards.
Now all eyes are on Sunday and the sh** storm that will inevitably follow......
Slightly disappointing though that Washington allowed Reese to hit a double double by the end of the game so that talking point will still get pushed by her stans.
Reese had 3 pts and maybe 4 rebs at half, finished with 10 pts on 3-10 shooting and 14 boards.
Now all eyes are on Sunday and the sh** storm that will inevitably follow......
Talk about brainwashed, look in the mirror, dumbass
Anyone else seeing rumors of Fever owner having lunch with Bluder and Drake head coach Allison Pohlman?
If the Fever can beat the Sky on Sunday (@ Indiana), the Fever will move into 8th place.
If you believe any one of those things, you’re simply low IQ and or delusional. I listed whack job theories of the far right and far left, none of which are true. But you can’t defend any of them with facts so the above is what you resort to. 100% predictable.
She'd be wise to leave...perhaps even before her contract is up. Cash out, play in Europe, a 3-3 league or something else where she'll get paid for her talent and not have to deal with the drama. Her agent should be working on it now. The socio-political BS is getting beyond ridiculous.
Interesting how the CC phenom with the WNBA has become such a reflection of society in general. We're all ****ed.
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So you’ve chosen your feelings over facts. You’re the type of person destroying this country with your precious “beliefs”. I feel sorry for America that people like you are destroying it for the rest of us decent, intelligent people. Have a good night.
Leaving would be weak and wouldn't help her brand at all. But controlling her emotions towards refs (and to be fair, she has been noticeably better with this in the last few games) and getting her allies at her agency and sponsors to put pressure on the Fever to do more to protect her and get her help on the floor are her best options imo. If Aliyah can't adjust her game to fit the uptempo/high screen style then they need to be looking to trade her to someone so they can pick up players more suited to Clark's game. Or trade Clark if you want to stay with a game that Boston can play. The thing is, you don't draft Clark without committing to her style of play. I actually think they have tried to adjust, but it didn't occur to anyone at Fever management that maybe they weren't built for a Clark type player. They needed to be retooling the team before she ever put on a uniform. Right now, I'm wondering if anyone at that organization did any work during the offseason to get ready for this.
How many of her own bricks did she rebound? I read one game she had 11 rebounds, 6 came off her own misses…
You must be a republican to think this way. All those senators and congressmen say the same thing knowing Trump is guilty on all charges and yet, we back him. What a mess this country is in.....
Sorry, no politics on this site.
Journalistic integrity has become an oxymoron.
Uh oh, that's gonna cost Serena some followers in her community.........
Until he went off the deep end about Fauci and Covid on one of the videos lol, I then turned it off. I agree with him on his take on the W.
This "utopian" WNBA team that plays an up-tempo game with everything funneled for Clark doesn't exist, probably will never exist. There are just too few players in the league, and most every one of them in a starting five want their game (and their style of game) to shine. Realistically, how is any GM going to form a roster of nothing but role players that acquiesce to this? How is any coach going to tell players that have been All-Americans and stars to change their game for one player? It's just not going to happen. Again, just too few players in the league to find that balance of egos.
So again, instead of complaining about what is, and how it should be, realize that Clark will always be defended the way she is defended right now. She will always have to shoot the lights out (within the given dynamic) to gain the respect and trust necessary to bend the game toward her skills and needs. Just the way it's going to be--on any team.
Yes, it's wrong and backwards.
Yes, the Fever coaching staff has no idea how to play to CC's skillset, or manage the egos of the team.
Yes, I hate everything that is going on with her fans, her haters, and perception.
Yes, I'm watching because I want her to succeed.
But despite all of this you can still admit when CC is making mistakes or shooting poorly within the given dynamic.
So again, instead of complaining about what is, and how it should be, realize that Clark will always be defended the way she is defended right now. She will always have to shoot the lights out (within the given dynamic) to gain the respect and trust necessary to bend the game toward her skills and needs. Just the way it's going to be--on any team.
Yes, it's wrong and backwards.
Yes, the Fever coaching staff has no idea how to play to CC's skillset, or manage the egos of the team.
Yes, I hate everything that is going on with her fans, her haters, and perception.
Yes, I'm watching because I want her to succeed.
But despite all of this you can still admit when CC is making mistakes or shooting poorly within the given dynamic.
Maybe. BUT her wealth is tied to contracts with Nike, and State Farm, and I'm quite sure none of them envisioned this shit show, (not that any of this is Clarks doing). I have no idea what her contracts say, but I highly doubt she can just "walk away" and still get paid by these companies....
I'm assuming the WNBA wants her to play *somewhere* in the league, and would assist with a trade to a less-dysfunctional team, and so her sponsors would still be getting their PR from her. Might be too much of an assumption, I concede.
Dick Vitale has it right!. Why can't everyone else figure it out. Leave her alone and let her play basketball.
I think you are the ignorant one here. I did not see one fact you brought forward. What are the ethical standards of ABC, NY Times, WAPo? What a joke you are.
Magic Johnson did this in his second year because he didn’t fit in with the coach’s philosophy. Same thing for Caitlin, she needs to just say she wants traded…sure, it would get bad for her, but it already is.
My God - great coaches and GMs have been forming championship teams comprised of all-americans and all-pro caliber players for decades. You actually think every elite basketball player has to have their own ball and cannot integrate their game into a team concept. And, you actually think CC can't shine unless she's surrounded by zombie role players. Strange take on the history of professional level basketball.
To be fair, I think her shooting percentage has been higher the last few games. The Sky have basically put making her rookie of the year the highest priority for the season, even over winning games. I'm not sure I have seen a larger inferiority complex out of a person or group of fans in my lifetime.
I'm convinced these "fans" stirring up all that shit are Russian bots, trying to once again divide our country before the election. Don' hop on social media otherwise you will be ALGORITHMed. I'm not joking. Kirk Ferentz was really ahead of his time when it came to Twitter.
It is the job of the organization to get players that can play in an uptempo game. The Fever did nothing for that and just assumed, I guess, that players used to playing in mud fight molasses offenses could suddenly just switch to a lightning fast pace. They should have traded some of their players for players that could fit in the new system better. The remaining players should have been ready to go in the new offense prior to the first day of camp. They should have been practicing executing the offense (and defense) on day one of camp rather than trying to teach them. Honestly, from what I can tell it didn't even look like they understood that they were going to have to retool things until after the first 2 games where everyone stood around picking their rear ends while one person with the ball tried to do everything.
It is the job of the organization to get the right kind of players and it is the job of the coach to prepare those players for the game. No, it doesn't have to be an offense that is 100% Clark all the time, but it does need to be players that can play at that pace and make correct decisions quickly. It probably won't ever be as fast paced as Iowa played because they also need to play defense and the other teams are just too good to get away with it.
A lot of it is. In fact, I'm betting it's what started it. But Americans are stupid and fell for it hook, line, and sinker so now they've divided into "teams". And given the reaction of many players in the league, I think they enjoy the drama. For some reason, having the league reflect WWE drama more than a legitimate sports league is a higher goal so they've gone out of the way to create extra BS. They want their name known, but what they haven't figured out is being an asshole to get recognition will get you more famous, but it won't get you 7 figure sponsorship deals.
Exactly, they should be looking for players that can run, players that think pass first and shoot second, a couple knock down shooters, and ideally a shot blocking and rebounding big down low that can also set quality screens.
What they have is Mitchell who thinks passing is a fad that she’ll never jump on. Boston that looks worse than Garza running down the court, struggles to finish layups, can’t set a good high ball screen to save her life, and routinely gets outrebounded by her PG. Shooters that can’t hit an open layup. And Fagbenle who looks like a good player for the system.
When I say pass first shoot second, I’m talking about players that keep the ball moving to find the open person, not hero ball players trying to incessantly run isolation. That is what teams like the Aces are usually great at.
I took journalism at the University of Iowa. I worked at a newspaper before it. Guarantee I know more about the ethical standards than you. They are pretty thorough to avoid libel lawsuits. It’s why a propagandist tool like James O’Keefe got busted trying to feed BS stories, because they actually verify. The one organization that has gotten hammered in recent years is Fox News. Alex Jones and Infowars are learning the hard way what having no ethical guidelines will result in. Yes, CBS News, WSJ, CNN have all had embarrassing retractions when they failed these standards in the past two decades. But they actually try to avoid misinformation. Again, you’re uneducated and ignorant on this. You , @83Hawk, and @ddeanHawk remind of this quote:
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It's interesting how many always default to Russian interference. There's a pretty powerful country called China that has its hands in nearly everything. I'm sure they do their share of "tinkering". Either way, people are certainly being manipulated...and largely in denial of it. It's always "the other guy".
