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OMG, shut it all down. The election is over because of that one voter.


Who am I kidding, Kamala is going to wipe the floor with Diaper Don
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Here’s the truth: Kamala Harris is an ok, pretty decent candidate. Better than Hillary, no Barack.

Trump is a lying weird creepy rapey treasonous old serial lying creep.

It’s an easy vote for any normal, non-cult American.

We don’t have to pretend she’s Wonder Woman. She’s a capable executive who isn’t out of her f—-ing mind. Which is really all we need as Americans.
 
But the mother****er is like 75 and still pretty sharp. Democrats always win the talent contest on these things.

More high thoughts. But that's not to say we don't have our share of intelligent conservatives. They just tend to be more boring and or weird. And not necessarily in a bad weird way, but in a Mitt Romney weird way. (but then there is also the Ted Cruz way)
 
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Mumble, mumble she needs to answer tough questions, meanwhile Trump is rounding up pals to spend a long weekend in Caracas.

I won’t decide how she did tonight until @binsfeldcyhawk2 lets us know what he thought.
I thought it was pretty good. I was reassured by her Israel/Hamas comments...

Tom, very wise post. It's always good to rely on your betters.

Lucas...she needs to take interviews and questions. This is getting ridiculous.
 
I just watched the 7 minute segment. They had 8 undecided voters. After her speech it went:

6 voting for Kamala
1 undecided who said she was probably not voting
The one clip you pulled for Trump

If she comes out with good specifics in the next couple weeks we could be looking at landslide territory.

Do you like getting owned in your own posts? Some dudes enjoy punishment - that’s cool if that’s your kink. I don’t judge. Just remember to relax when Kamala pegs you in November.

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I thought it was pretty good. I was reassured by her Israel/Hamas comments...

Tom, very wise post. It's always good to rely on your betters.

Lucas...she needs to take interviews and questions. This is getting ridiculous.
I agree she needs to take unscripted interviews and I think she needs to get concrete specifics out quickly if she wants to make this a real landslide that causes the GOP reset I dearly want.

I also think she can’t do everything she is promising. And honestly fiscally I don’t want her to (and we don’t need her to). Right now my top priority is to move four years down the road, putting MAGA divisiveness in the rear view mirror without completely messing up the country. Kamala convinced me she can be a middle of the road president. Strong enough on foreign policy to protect our interests and smart enough to take a middle of the road stance on many other issues.

One thing I know: the speech last night sure as shit wasn’t the speech of a Marxist socialist looney toon libtard moran that MAGA keeps claiming. It was the speech of an American success story, of a strong believer in freedom, of a President.
 
One thing I know: the speech last night sure as shit wasn’t the speech of a Marxist socialist looney toon libtard moran that MAGA keeps claiming. It was the speech of an American success story, of a strong believer in freedom, of a President.
It was a good speech. I'd just like to hear her unscripted expanding upon what she believes.

She's flipped on a lot of her 2020 campaign stuff...and I'm not a fan of her "price gouging" solution that she's proposed this time. We won't get it, but it'd be nice to hear her in a long form interview being asked serious questions or an actual press conference being asked tough questions. I have a feeling whatever interview she does will be pretty "friendly".

She has talent and isn't a dummy....I'm just not sold on her pivot to the middle being authentic. I don't know if the real Harris is the 2020 one or this one in short...
 
It was a good speech. I'd just like to hear her unscripted expanding upon what she believes.

She's flipped on a lot of her 2020 campaign stuff...and I'm not a fan of her "price gouging" solution that she's proposed this time. We won't get it, but it'd be nice to hear her in a long form interview being asked serious questions or an actual press conference being asked tough questions. I have a feeling whatever interview she does will be pretty "friendly".

She has talent and isn't a dummy....I'm just not sold on her pivot to the middle being authentic. I don't know if the real Harris is the 2020 one or this one in short...
That is very fair. I’m convinced she is smart enough to know she has to play this down the middle if she wants to get re-elected in 28. I suspect her inclination is to be more progressive, but when it comes down to it she has either listened to moderate voices around her or decided for herself that middle-of-the-road is the winning strategy. She can’t go left once in office if she wants to get anything done.

I 100% agree she needs to dive into specifics. I posted about CNNs undecided focus group earlier. They all wanted more specifics,
 
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That is very fair. I’m convinced she is smart enough to know she has to play this down the middle if she wants to get re-elected in 28. I suspect her inclination is to be more progressive, but when it comes down to it she has either listened to moderate voices around her or decided for herself that middle-of-the-road is the winning strategy. She can’t go left once in office if she wants to get anything done.

I 100% agree she needs to dive into specifics. I posted about CNNs undecided focus group earlier. They all wanted more specifics,
I think her campaign has been making all the right moves the last month. Walking away from her controversial (now) positions from her last run. First real misstep (IMO) was her price gouging (price control) proposal which has been panned by most economists. I wouldn't be surprised if they walk away from that a bit...some of D's that have been asked about it avoid answering directly because they know it's a loser.
 
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I think her campaign has been making all the right moves the last month. Walking away from her controversial (now) positions from her last run. First real misstep (IMO) was her price gouging (price control) proposal which has been panned by most economists. I wouldn't be surprised if they walk away from that a bit...some of D's that have been asked about it avoid answering directly because they know it's a loser.
100% agree with this. Things go haywire when governments dictate prices. I’m not sure that is exactly what she meant, but that was the impression she gave millions of people. We need specifics to judge.

Either way she can’t do it anymore than Trump can lower prices by asking companies to drill for more oil. And she is not demanding tariffs like Trump - which has been proven over decades to just be a tax on the US consumer. Only one of the candidates was dumb enough to make a major economic plank something that would increase inflation immediately.
 
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It was a good speech. I'd just like to hear her unscripted expanding upon what she believes.

She's flipped on a lot of her 2020 campaign stuff...and I'm not a fan of her "price gouging" solution that she's proposed this time. We won't get it, but it'd be nice to hear her in a long form interview being asked serious questions or an actual press conference being asked tough questions. I have a feeling whatever interview she does will be pretty "friendly".

She has talent and isn't a dummy....I'm just not sold on her pivot to the middle being authentic. I don't know if the real Harris is the 2020 one or this one in short...
Like all winning candidates ever, she ran to the left in the 2020 primary, and will now move to the middle in the general.

I speculated that kamala could be a sleeper candidate back in June before Joe bowed out.

She has been training for this moment for her whole life.
Even these years of ridiculing her as VP has set her up to far exceed expectations as she is now freed up to display her skills and natural political talent. She is a finished product honing her chops the last 4 years. Clearly she was not overwhelmed by the moment...she's embraced it.
She is a political thoroughbred now freed up as her father told her" run fast and far , kamala".

Home run!!!
 
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Like all winning candidates ever, she ran to the left in the 2020 primary, and will now move to the middle in the general.

I speculated that kamala could be a sleeper candidate back in June before Joe bowed out.

She has been training for this moment for her whole life.
Even these years of ridiculing her as VP has set her up to far exceed expectations as she is now freed up to display her skills and natural political talent. She is a finished product honing her chops the last 4 years. Clearly she was not overwhelmed by the moment...she's embraced it.
She is a political thoroughbred now freed up as her father told her" run fast and far , kamala".

Home run!!!
Seems like an over the top assessment.
 
That is very fair. I’m convinced she is smart enough to know she has to play this down the middle if she wants to get re-elected in 28. I suspect her inclination is to be more progressive, but when it comes down to it she has either listened to moderate voices around her or decided for herself that middle-of-the-road is the winning strategy. She can’t go left once in office if she wants to get anything done.

I 100% agree she needs to dive into specifics. I posted about CNNs undecided focus group earlier. They all wanted more specifics,
Once again it's the Democrats that have to prove they are moderates - which the vast majority of them are - or they can't beat Republicans who are allowed to move further and further away from the middle, not to mention a Democratic Republic, by the year. Again, our electorate just doesn't make a lot of sense in its thinking. It's also incredible that things that the majority of Americans want are considered radical by Republicans.
 
Once again it's the Democrats that have to prove they are moderates - which the vast majority of them are - or they can't beat Republicans who are allowed to move further and further away from the middle, not to mention a Democratic Republic, by the year. Again, our electorate just doesn't make a lot of sense in its thinking. It's also incredible that things that the majority of Americans want are considered radical by Republicans.
Kamala was more progressive in 2020 and yes she does have to come across as moderate to win. All evidence points to that. Whether or not it is ridiculous it does appear to be the way the electoral map works. I would suggest mobilizing to convince folks to vote. Probably a better strategy than saying the voters are non-sensical.
 
Kamala was more progressive in 2020 and yes she does have to come across as moderate to win. All evidence points to that. Whether or not it is ridiculous it does appear to be the way the electoral map works. I would suggest mobilizing to convince folks to vote. Probably a better strategy than saying the voters are non-sensical.
Sure. but it doesn't make the comment inaccurate. The Democrats have to play everything basically perfect in order to beat a guy who is a rapist and felon, just for starters. That's incredible and gives me very little faith in our electorate.
 
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