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**** Official Israel War thread****

Iranian spending is a shell game. They can easily move $6B in cash from one spending account to another. Money is a fungible asset.
You are assuming the government was going to spend 6 billion on food and medicine before any of this started. They weren't. If the authorization to sell the oil was never given there would be no money to argue over. Once the oil was sold it was legally Iranian money, not ours. We had this issue earlier with Iran if you remember the $8 billion we had to return. So if you are going to blame Biden you have to also blame Trump for issuing the waivers in the first place.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...e-selling-oil-its-8-biggest-customers-n931891

Lastly if anyone thinks Iran used the "fungible money" since the announcement of the release to purchase, take possession of and deliver to Hamas in the Gaza Strip they are crazy. The planning, aquisition and placement of the military equipment had to have taken months to implement. The Iranian assistance could not have gotten there in that amount of time. So unless you think Iran and Hamas knew months ago that the money was coming, the "fungible" part of the debate doesn't work.
 
This.

Going to a "peace concert" or whatever the hell they called it also seems like a smooth-brain thing to do there. You wouldn't catch me there either way, but that gathering seemed like a really bad idea.

Nah, totally intelligent and rational place to go for a concert
 
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So, what's the solution for meaningful peace? You can call the Palestinaians red headed step children, but they are there. The are not all terrorists. As I have stated before, Israel occupied the Gaza Strip for many, many years. They pulled out, but left a feckless PA in charge, and have done everything they can to strangle the economy and make living conditions harsh in Gaza.
It is untenable. Nothing excuses what's going on now, especially the hostage taking, but Netanyahu has benefited from a continued low intensity conflict during his tenure. He did nothing to solve the issues, and in fact ushered in harsher policies when he resumed office, and brought in ultra hard right coalition members to keep himself afloat politically. If you read the writings of some of the people Netanyahu has put into his government you see the same strident tones as from the most radicalized Palestinians.
Tell me the end game in which the Palestinians are able to prosper and live peacefully with Israel?

I’m being dead serious here…….they have to either have Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS etc…. Put down their weapons with the understanding that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state or kill them.

There will never be a two state solution as you have people so fundamental in their thinking that they cannot live in peace. The Arab nations need to absorb the Palestinians, who are being governed by a terrorist organization who gives two shit about their own people.
 
It's warming to know liberals have imported so many of these sub-human, palestinian terrorists to live right here amongst us!
 
So unless you think Iran and Hamas knew months ago that the money was coming, the "fungible" part of the debate doesn't work.
They did know. A multi-faceted, multi-front coordinated terrorist attack is happening. The resources required to sustain the terrorists is significant. They’ve been stock piling weapons (Hezbollah in Lebanon) for years. They just needed timing:

- Israel and SA normalizing pisses the shit out of Iran
- Instability inside Israel with judicial reform and IDF soldier protests
- US tied up in Ukraine spending
- Yom Kippur war anniversary
- Financial boost to Iranian reserves was being recognized and they had the financial margin to start a sustained battle

 
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Not one person in the taliban has a clue how to turn one of those aircraft on. Also they have zero parts to even maintain them.

Jfc the right wing propaganda is getting out of hand. **** it, we won’t unite. Civil war, let’s get it over with.

Wait, you want a civil war?
 
Not one person in the taliban has a clue how to turn one of those aircraft on. Also they have zero parts to even maintain them.

Jfc the right wing propaganda is getting out of hand. **** it, we won’t unite. Civil war, let’s get it over with.
How about the guns?
 
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Not one person in the taliban has a clue how to turn one of those aircraft on. Also they have zero parts to even maintain them.

Jfc the right wing propaganda is getting out of hand. **** it, we won’t unite. Civil war, let’s get it over with.
Hear! Hear! If we can’t unite behind a terrorist attack killing over 700 Israeli’s then we are ****ed as a nation. Russia and Iran are hoping like hell we can’t.
 
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You’re being deliberately obtuse. I lived in Michigan and it’s full of people (aka voters) who despise Israel and all things Jewish/Israeli.
Michigan is full of voters with diverse opinions, as are most other states. I see “Let’s Go Brandon” bumper stickers and “Fvck Joe Biden” flags on a weekly basis. Friday while dropping off my son at his elementary school a trophy wife even had a “Joe and the Ho Gotta Go!” sticker on the rear of her SUV.

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Not one person in the taliban has a clue how to turn one of those aircraft on. Also they have zero parts to even maintain them.

Jfc the right wing propaganda is getting out of hand. **** it, we won’t unite. Civil war, let’s get it over with.
Wow you’re stupid and delusional.
 
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My Mom (no pics) is scheduled to go to Jordan with a tour group next week.

She's canceling tomorrow.
I was hoping to be able to take the wife and kids to Egypt some time in the next few years to do an Ancient Egypt tour. I’ve got a feeling that won’t be happening any time soon now. Yea this isn’t in Egypt, but things are likely to get worse in the whole region for a while, after things had finally settled down a bit after the Arab Spring.
 
Trying to "open another front" in the US proxy war seems like a pretty logical move for Russia.
Yep. Not even hiding their relationship with Iran and the attack drones Iran gave them to launch terrorist attacks on Ukraine cities. I am ready to wipe Iran off map.
 
I was curious what China’s stance on this is. So I asked Google. Apparently they are calling for parties to remain calm. Idk what do y‘all think China is doing or will do with their response to this?

 
I was curious what China’s stance on this is. So I asked Google. Apparently they are calling for parties to remain calm. Idk what do y‘all think China is doing or will do with their response to this?


They'll kill more Uyghurs.
 
Unfortunately, I can’t say I disagree with any of this. I’m positive that they will reclaim the Gaza Strip. I do see this escalating as other terrorist groups wont let it stand.
There’s two million people there.
They don’t want to give them a vote in the Israeli government, so what do they do with them?
That’s the whole reason they drew Gaza outside the Israeli border. They don’t want the problem on the other side inside.
 
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