**** Official Israel War thread****
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Do you think abby is trolling or do you think he believes what he posts? I’m convinced he believes what he types.
It’s true, why sacrifice the safety of your citizens and nation for that type of scourge. Also, why sympathy for a terrorists loss of life?
Don't get your panties in a wad bruddah. I did happen to see that the $ is being held by our ally Qatar later in the thread, so that is a good thing and happy to see that. But I will always have a healthy cynicism of top level politicians/governments mixing with billions of dollars. Oh, and I just absolutely love that movie and gif and can't wait to throw it out on anything that might remotely relate to it!
Personally I don't believe in genocide of innocents but apparently you do so good luck to you sir
Good that Mohammed Deif is dead.
I was yikesing you seemingly cheering the fact that a couple of kids were also killed in that attack
They were warned to evacuate, and what piece of shit “military” leader keeps his loved ones in harms way?
If all Palestinians are Hamas or support Hamas are they not fair game to kill? Don't you have to eliminate them to end the war?
Ahh yes, it was soooo honest and balanced in its prior monitoring lol. Wake tf up. There's always been fake news, especially on Twitter. Anyone who thinks it's somehow worse now does so bc its no longer just your "side's" bullshit getting through.
Another typical dem organization supporting terror:
No. I don’t want innocents to die that’s fuked up but I also recognize they probably will on both sides. Maybe if Hamas, idk, could stop threatening the existence of Israel shit like this wouldn’t pop off
Exactly and I agree. The point for which we agree on was posted by BLM Grassroots and did not support Hamas as was portrayed by the tweet poster and GIAHORT poster
Watch…all the twenty-something men will be at the front.
Lol sounds like the Mediterranean Sea is going to have a new border soon
The leaders of most Arab countries don’t hate Israel as much as you may think. And they care about the Palestinians even less.
They are politicians who understand the value of having a common enemy to keep the hoi polloi distracted from the fact that they have no rights and their leaders live in gilded palaces.
Remember that guy who leaked the classified diplomatic cables a decade ago? I think he is a she now, but I can’t remember the name.
To me, one of the biggest revelations was how two-faced most of these Arab regimes are. Publicly, they all hate America. Privately, they are constantly begging us to protect them from Iran.
Iran is who they really hate.
To me, one of the biggest revelations was how two-faced most of these Arab regimes are. Publicly, they all hate America. Privately, they are constantly begging us to protect them from Iran.
Iran is who they really hate.
That would be a huge win. Egypt would have to be wary of extremists coming in under the cover of fleeing refugees.
You'd have to think Hamas would be sending undercover people over under the guise of refugees if that happens. Not sure how you'd prevent that. I'm sure tech like facial recog, fingerprints, etc would help, but there's no way in hell that it could stop all of them.
2 Israeli tourists were murdered by an Egyptian police officer in Alexandria.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...tack-tourism-af8a02136c390721a0fdef647394154c
https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...tack-tourism-af8a02136c390721a0fdef647394154c
Did you ever condemn the Jan. 6th attack?How long are we going to wait until these two lifelong useless people condemn this attack?
Why doesn't Iran, Egypt, Syria,or Jordan give up a small portion of the entirely Muslim area to create a Palestinian Homeland?
The reason that the Palestinians have never been ok with a two state solution is the same reason as the answer to the above question.
The Palestinians aren't after a Homeland. They are actually after the destruction of Israel.
Until you realize this is the actually answer to the question you will never understand why the destruction of the enemies of Israel is now required.
Fact is, if Iran didn't exist we'd probably never be in the situation we are in now either.
The reason that the Palestinians have never been ok with a two state solution is the same reason as the answer to the above question.
The Palestinians aren't after a Homeland. They are actually after the destruction of Israel.
Until you realize this is the actually answer to the question you will never understand why the destruction of the enemies of Israel is now required.
Fact is, if Iran didn't exist we'd probably never be in the situation we are in now either.
This is the worst possible take ever. There is no possible parallel between Jan 6th and the Hamas attack on Israel. None. Delete your account. I'm dead serious. You are an embarrassment to yourself.
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You really ought to take a history class or two.
Iran has been around for thousands of years more than we have.
In fact, it was the US which set the current Iran into existence by overthrowing the parliamentarian nation of Iran in a coup organized by our CIA in 1953, urged on by the British MI6, because Iran had decided to nationalize their British-owned oil industry. We established the rule of the Shah following the coup until the Iranian Revolution in 1979, which I assume is when you came into the picture.
IMO, the biggest current problem in the Middle East originates from Western European nations colonizing the ME following WWI, where England and France divided up the spoils of the former Ottoman Empire after the war, and the following Holocaust which Germany instituted in their retribution efforts against France and Great Britain from WWI. If one wants to dig deep enough, they would probably also find that Israel was born out of terrorism from the Jewish/Zionist nation founders (Irgun) as they attempted to drive Great Britain out of Palestine by blowing up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946. Of course, that wasn't the only terrorist act committed by the Irgun, but it was probably the biggest blow. The Irgun were very ruthless, kind of like other players in the region today.
To summarize, it was probably a combination of European and American involvement in the local affairs of the Middle Eastern nations after WWII which has brought us to this point.
And, here we are today, no closer to a peaceful settlement in this part of the world after over a century of political strife.
So, where do we go from here?
The destruction of the enemies of freedom and those guilty of these crimes against humanity and in violation of all international rules of war.
What do you think about the FBI working with foreign governments to kick Americans off social media because the foreign governments don’t like what they say?
And the fact they had guns.
Tons of heroism and no guns is a different story.
We’ve been paying Egypt billions since Carter to be Israel’s friend.
They elected the Muslim Brotherhood and that was about to change everything, so we tacitly supported a coup by the generals so we’d regain our influence.
We love democracy, except when people don’t vote right. Then we have to put them back under authoritarians, to protect democracy.
Whose freedom, Gus? Ours and our allies, or those who are the original citizens of the region in question?
If you want to prosecute all those guilty of crimes against humanity and in violation of all international rules of war, should we go back to WWII where the Allies also killed millions of German and Japanese citizens in their fire bombing raids of German and Japanese cities? Should the Irgun be tried as well? Where do we draw the line?
Which leg of legitimacy do we stand upon? Do we even have one? We are the interlopers in this current struggle, are we not?
Look, I don't have the answers anymore than you do. But, we should probably take more of an impartial role like we did in the Camp David Accords which Jimmy Carter initiated in the settling of Israel's and Egypt's struggles in the Arab-Israeli conflict of the 1970's. That was a start, but unfortunately there hasn't been as much progress since then. Maybe this is the opportunity, although a very costly one, we have been looking for where we can bring all of the aggrieved parties together again for another attempt at building a more lasting peace, although I have to question that even this will be the end of it.
We have to try, though.
I appreciate your lengthy and thoughtful response. That’s more than many would offer up.
I don't think now is the time to look for a peaceful solution. Had the Hamas militia attacked military targeted and treated those like a normal war I could maybe see this. This was not that.
Evil needs to be confronted and destroyed. Once Hamas has been brought to it's knees if some of the cooler minds in it's movement wish to come to the table for a negotiated peace then, I could see that making sense.
The beef I have with this all is that throughout history, when you are the aggressor and lose a war you started (1948) you don't get to have the land back you lost in that war. Especially land you have a strategic advantage from. Like Golan heights etc.
Fact is, no one has a homeland. Land has always been taken via purchase, treaty, or war. I mean, how far back do we wanna go? There has never been an actual nation of Palestine. Even if it had existed, with borders, it lost it in war after war. This is land that Israel claims and has earned and has won over and over. If Palestinians wanted peace they have had multiple opportunities to find it. Yet they have other goals.
Why don’t you give your land back to the Native Americans? I mean your house probably exists on land that was once theirs right? Don’t they have a legitimate claim to their homeland? What if you lived adjacent to a reservation of Native Americans and in a process of attempting to take back their ancestral lands they came into your home, raped your wife and killed one of your children? All over a conquest you had nothing to do with? I think I’d be looking to exact a significant cost from this enemy. Regardless of the validity of their claims as a whole.
Worse yet, this story doesn’t involve a mythical tribe. This involves a historically persecuted people with a centuries old history of violence directed towards them in certain instances beyond anyone’s imagination. You cannot look at this story without that being considered.
Sure. You could say that this applies to the Palestinians as well. Ok then line up an Army and fight within the established international rules of war and if you can defeat Israel, then good on ya. But what has happened in this case is not that. By anyones calculus.
Recall, there are lots of Muslim homelands. There is only one Israel.
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