**** Official Israel War thread****

[PoopandBoogers]

One thing that interested me was the nationalities of those with the highest killed/missing being Thailand and Nepal. I'm assuming these are "domestic workers" like they are in Qatar, Saudi, UAE etc, but the fact that they were in the border kibbutz's was eye opening.

Does the Israeli govt give the people living there extra $ or tax breaks or something? I imagine living there has got to be pretty horrible and stressful, but the houses did look pretty nice compared to what I had previously envisioned, coupled with the large amount of Asian workers was not something I expected in those border enclaves.

 

[PoopandBoogers]

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What I've gleaned over the years is that Hamas is like the JV squad compared to Hezbollah. So where does the Islamic Jihad goup fit in that ranking?

Also, I've read that Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda are itching to get into the fight and have asked neighboring countries/tribes/warlords for safe passage and permission through their territories to help out in the jihad.

 

[Rifler]

I wouldn’t doubt it. It’s so difficult to know what’s what.

No it's not,.. just don't immediately accept anything as the truth.

 

[seminole97]

Well if you consider those chemical weapons, then all weapons can be considered chemical weapons if they contain lead or any other compound found on the periodic chart.

Incendiaries, not ‘chemical weapons’.

US used them in Fallujah.
Russians use them in Ukraine.
Israel has used them before in Gaza.

Human Rights Watch doesn’t like it.

 

[TarponSpringsNole]

No it's not,.. just don't immediately accept anything as the truth.

Ok.

 

[PoopandBoogers]

Incendiaries, not ‘chemical weapons’.

US used them in Fallujah.
Russians use them in Ukraine.
Israel has used them before in Gaza.

Human Rights Watch doesn’t like it.

Yes. That's what I was alluding to. If they considered those "chemical weapons" (which they are not), then any and all weapons, even an arrow, could be called a "chemical weapon" since they contain lead, carbon, or friggin oxygen.

 

[SoDakHawk]

What I've gleaned over the years is that Hamas is like the JV squad compared to Hezbollah. So where does the Islamic Jihad goup fit in that ranking?

Also, I've read that Taliban, ISIS, and Al Qaeda are itching to get into the fight and have asked neighboring countries/tribes/warlords for safe passage and permission through their territories to help out in the jihad.

Invite them all to the party. Once there, crush them all like the bugs they are.

RE: The amount of force or response Israel should show here. The only thing these people understand is blunt force. If Israel doesn't respond by going scorched earth they will be perceived as weak and the wolves will come in for the kill. Look at how some of these players are already mobilizing and jumping in for the kill.

USA should provide air and sea support. Allow Israel o take the gloves off and do what they need to do. And when they are finished squashing the bugs on their doorstep, greenlight Israel to do what they need to do to take care of Iran, once and for all.

 

[ZachJump]

What if just ends up with Hamas flushed and spiraling down the drain?
If Israel goes for the Indian War method to resolve the problem, would you want the U.S. to condemn, or just ignore?

There is no easy answer.

I can say that if we fought WW2 with the handcuffs that we have these days - I probably would be writing this in German.

 

[Rifler]

There is no easy answer.

I can say that if we fought WW2 with the handcuffs that we have these days - I probably would be writing this in German.

Wars were easier to fight without the current media,.. The real dirty work could be wrapped up before anyone heard about it.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Musk is a pos

He accomplishes more good for humanity in his first 5 mins of the day than you will in your entire pathetic life.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Good is a relevant term, but right and wrong are pretty clear. Israel has the go ahead to unleash hell in this case. Complete evil committed by Hamas today, and if you think otherwise I seriously question your character.

And now our country is going to cheer them on as they go into Gaza and kill indiscriminately.

Two wrongs make a right I guess

 

[hydro2.0]

And now our country is going to cheer them on as they go into Gaza and kill indiscriminately.

Two wrongs make a right I guess

Don’t start none won’t be none

 

[JRHawk2003]

Don’t start none won’t be none

So are we keeping score? How many dead Palestinians will it take to feed the blood lust?

 

[hydro2.0]

So are we keeping score? How many dead Palestinians will it take to feed the blood lust?

I am not keeping score. These are simply facts: if you roll into a country and murder 600 innocent people you’re gonna get fuked up.

I don’t want innocent people to be killed but I recognize war ain’t unicorns and rainbows.

 

[ZachJump]

There are people out there that really think it is a crime of some sort that Israel has stopped supplying Palestine with electricity/clean water/food/etc.

First time I have ever heard that it is now a War Crime to not run your enemies supply lines for them.

 

[JRHawk2003]

There are people out there that really think it is a crime of some sort that Israel has stopped supplying Palestine with electricity/clean water/food/etc.

First time I have ever heard that it is now a War Crime to not run your enemies supply lines for them.

Most of the people in Gaza are just civilians trying to lead their lives and had nothing to do with this.

Killing,.Killing and more Killing

It never ends.

F Religion

 

[Tom Paris]

That’s what I’m saying, what is plan B? The line in the sand was crossed within 24 hours haha.

How involved will the US and other western nations be involved now?

It's not really that funny. This is probably going to get American military members killed.

 

[JRHawk2003]

It's not really that funny. This is probably going to get American military members killed

Lebanon 1982 was enough.

Don't do it.

 

[GOHOX69]

Palestinians were distributing sweets the other day, post rape rampage, beheadings and killings. No more sweets!

 

[Tom Paris]

So are we keeping score? How many dead Palestinians will it take to feed the blood lust?

They killed Americans too, so I for one want to make sure that other terrorist organizations and IRAN, think twice. If Iran is behind dead Americans, I want that country to pay a steep price.

 

[ZachJump]

Most of the people in Gaza are just civilians trying to lead their lives and had nothing to do with this.

Killing,.Killing and more Killing

It never ends.

F Religion

It is actually the modern world that has created this problem. It is a new concept that the citizens are not complicit in what happens ---- so they are untouchable.

By making them untouchable - you make it so they have no reason to attempt to change what their leadership is doing.

Either way - you know a way to get electricity to the protected class without giving it to the people that are going to use it to further their cause of attacking you?

 

[ZachJump]

Lebanon 1982 was enough.

Don't do it.

I completely agree.

We should not send in the Marines.

The Air Force can take care of things.

 

[seminole97]

I completely agree.

We should not send in the Marines.

The Air Force can take care of things.

And motivate the next Pulse nightclub attack in the States…

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

 

[Slappy Pappy]

It is not a war crime to use it on military targets....Israel has been using it for years.

...also many of the pics/videos on Twitter is from Ukraine where Russia has used it.

To be fair, it's hard to distinguish between the tactics of Hamas and their Russian backers.

 

[JRHawk2003]

They killed Americans too, so I for one want to make sure that other terrorist organizations and IRAN, think twice. If Iran is behind dead Americans, I want that country to pay a steep price.

Then we should attack them. Once and for all. Take out the Ayatollahs.

My point is that the people who did the original acts won't ever pay, only the civilians will.

 

[hydro2.0]

It would be great to see all these pro-Palestine people actually go there to fight if they’re so invested

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

And now our country is going to cheer them on as they go into Gaza and kill indiscriminately.

Two wrongs make a right I guess

It's a complex problem that doesn't have an ideal solution. Other than everyone miraculously throwing down their weapons and embracing each other. I hope our government and military leaders are working closely with Israel to offer advice on how to conduct the coming ground invasion with as much precision as possible. We've certainly had plenty of experience with urban warfare over the years. And we've gotten damn good at it. Although I'm not sure how much Israel is willing to listen, given the raw level of hate that exists in this war? As I said before, be thankful to be an American citizen. And just hope for the best, I guess.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Yet, the feral savages continue:

 

[pablow]

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If the US intelligence community believes Iran was surprised by this and likely not involved, we are in very sorry shape here.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

So are we keeping score? How many dead Palestinians will it take to feed the blood lust?

Self defense is not blood lust, Puss Pants.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Yet, the feral savages continue:

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This has already been announced as a false alarm.

 

[JRHawk2003]

It's a complex problem that doesn't have an ideal solution. Other than everyone miraculously throwing down their weapons and embracing each other. I hope our government and military leaders are working closely with Israel to offer advice on how to conduct the coming ground invasion with as much precision as possible. We've certainly had plenty of experience with urban warfare over the years. And we've gotten damn good at it. Although I'm not sure how much Israel is willing to listen, given the raw level of hate that exists in this war? As I said before, be thankful to be an American citizen. And just hope for the best, I guess.

I don't take sides besides not wanting ordinary people killed for the stupidity of religion.

Might as well fight over Saturday morning cartoons.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

This has already been announced as a false alarm.

Wrong.

 

[ZachJump]

And motivate the next Pulse nightclub attack in the States…

They do not need anymore motivation for that.

All I am saying is if you are going to fight a war - fight it to win with the fewest casualties on your side.

With the technology that we have - I have no problem saying that I would have drones in the air non stop. I would take out any roads/bridges that Israel does not plan on using. If I saw a pickup truck, which seems to be their favorite transportation method - it would be gone. I would take out any place that has a fuel supply - even if that meant taking out every gas station.

I have no desire to see civilian deaths - but I would fight to win and the start of that would be to take out their infrastructure.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

If the US intelligence community believes Iran was surprised by this and likely not involved, we are in very sorry shape here.

Why? Israel and the Uk agree that Iran was not involved or even aware.

Look, Hamas is NOT Hezbollah, who are, in fact, totally controlled and run by Iran up in Lebanon. Iran backs Hamas in the same way other Muslim countries do - some aid, some weapon - but there is no joint planning or taking orders there. Hamas is Sunni, Iran and Hezbollah are Shiite, and if it wasn't for Israel, they'd be back to killing each other full time.

So unless Israel or the US change their minds and say otherwise, we can back off starting a war with Iran over this, as much as they deserve it over a hundred different reasons.

 

[seminole97]

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The UK government has urged police chiefs to consider whether waving a Palestinian flag could be a criminal offence in the wake of calls by senior figures for people deemed to have expressed support for Hamas to be prosecuted.

In a letter on Tuesday, Home Secretary Suella Braverman called on police forces to be alert for displays of Hamas flags or logos or other demonstrations of support for the Palestinian militant group.

Hamas was proscribed as a terrorist organisation by the UK government in 2021.

But Braverman also called on police to consider the context in which Palestinian flags are waved to assess whether public order offences of harassment or incitement may have been committed.

"Behaviours that are legitimate in some cricumstances, for example, the waving of a Palestinian flag, may not be legitimate such as when intended to glorify acts of terrorism," she wrote.

She also encouraged police chiefs to consider whether chants like "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" should be "understood as expression of a violent desire to see Israel erased from the world" and therefore a public order offence.

Her comments came hours after British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak vowed that anyone in the UK supporting Hamas in the wake of its "barbaric acts of terrorism" would be held accountable.

"People should not be supporting Hamas and we will make sure that we hold people to account if they are," he told reporters during a visit to Staffordshire on Tuesday.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Wrong.

IDF rules out "suspected infiltration" from Lebanon it reported earlier​

From CNN’s Hadas Gold in Jerusalem


The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) issued an updated statement, ruling out a "suspected infiltration" into Israel from Lebanon "as of right now."
There is no major security incident in northern Israel, IDF chief spokesperson Daniel Hagari said at a press briefing on Wednesday.
This comes after the IDF earlier said a report was received regarding a suspected "infiltration from Lebanon into Israeli air space." Sirens warning of incoming rocket fire were activated in most of northern Israel following the IDF's warning.
“There was an error - whether technical or human error,” Hagari said at the press event.

 

[seminole97]

They do not need anymore motivation for that.

I firmly believe more attacks by the U.S. overseas will result in attacks against soft targets here.

All I am saying is if you are going to fight a war - fight it to win with the fewest casualties on your side.

Totally concur.
If you’re compelled to wage war, hoist the black flag.

 

[pablow]

Why? Israel and the Uk agree that Iran was not involved or even aware.

Look, Hamas is NOT Hezbollah, who are, in fact, totally controlled and run by Iran up in Lebanon. Iran backs Hamas in the same way other Muslim countries do - some aid, some weapon - but there is no joint planning or taking orders there. Hamas is Sunni, Iran and Hezbollah are Shiite, and if it wasn't for Israel, they'd be back to killing each other full time.

So unless Israel or the US change their minds and say otherwise, we can back off starting a war with Iran over this, as much as they deserve it over a hundred different reasons.

The attack was planned via face-to-meetings and messengers. There is no evidence, at this point. No evidence of Iran's involvement means nothing.

I'd be shocked if Iran was not involved with planning and funding.

It's a great talking point to try to contain the war, but I doubt it's true.

"Maj. Nir Dinar, a spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces, told POLITICO on Monday. “We are 100 percent sure that the Iranians were not surprised.”
“Just because you don’t have that evidence doesn’t necessarily mean Iran isn’t behind it,” he added.
Politico
" Israel’s ambassador-designate to Canada says he believes Iran was involved in the weekend’s deadly Hamas rampage on Israel."
“It's clear that there is direct involvement in what is happening right now,” Iddo Moed told POLITICO on Tuesday."
Politico