**** Official Israel War thread****
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People forget that there are real humans suffering so that morons can stay in power. It's a shame that govts have propped up both sides and allowed this to continue all these decades instead of forcing a solution.
Some day this kid will fight in this conflict and people on the internet will blame religion.
The only thing I would say is that this won't be like Afghanistan or Iraq. We took over those countries pretty quickly, it was the occupation that was the issue. This won't be the same because we aren't going in, Israel is doing the fighting, we're just in a support role. Also, we played by rules of engagement in those theatres and had our hands somewhat tied. Israel will come at them swinging.
I don't think the Arab states should want any part of Israel. It has always ended up badly for them.
Drones attack a US military base in southern Syria and there are minor injuries, US officials say
A military base in southern Syria where U.S. troops have maintained a presence to train forces was attacked by drones, two U.S. officials told The AP.
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US Navy destroyer intercepts missiles that were fired towards it from Yemen.
You know, it must be really nice to be Iran and to just be able to have proxies do all of your own dirty work.
Because multiple politicians have staked their future to dragging things along. Ask the Israeli people if they'd be okay with working out a viable. 2 state solution and you'd have a lot of takers.
Yep, and have proxies in the US downplaying their role.
To be fair, Iran's close friend Russia is paying for most of those.
those aren't so much proxies as useful idiots
Rockets, drones hit Iraqi base housing US forces -security sources
The United States has 2,500 troops in Iraq, and 900 more in neighboring Syria, on a mission to advise and assist local forces in combating Islamic State.
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Rockets, drones hit Iraqi base housing US forces -security sources
Israel says 30 Gaza hostages are children, IDF strikes in Lebanon
Over 4,600 wounded, 1,400 killed • IDF: At least 203 captives in Gaza, over 100 still considered missing
The power of a Carrier strike group is essentially boundless under these circumstances. And we've got two on scene. Iran's posturing...I enjoy it.
Completely agree, it’s absurd a nearly 80 year old man is running the country. I’m also thankful he ran and beat trump. I don’t think anyone but him could have beaten trump at the time. I’ll gladly vote him a second term if for nothing else but keeping trump out for good.
I’m a proud and happy Biden supporter, if nothing else keeping trump far away from DC. Feel the same way. You know he has a good heart and a great message to convey but it’s clearly wearing on him at this point. Like the post by Solar, I’ll vote for him a second time but man wish we had a younger leader at this point in time. Obama’s speaking skills would’ve killed it tonight, hell W could’ve fired the public up with the message.
Would give her my final solution.
Maybe send the MAGA republicans over to the West Bank since they don’t like CNN either.
The US has used its veto at the UN security council to block a resolution calling for Israel to allow humanitarian corridors into the Gaza Strip, a pause in the fighting and the lifting of an order for civilians to leave the north of the besieged territory.
The text – supported by 12 of the 15 members of the security council on Wednesday – contained criticism of “heinous terrorist crimes by Hamas” and made no direct reference of Israel. In an attempt to win US support, the draft resolution did not explicitly call for a ceasefire, instead referencing a “humanitarian pause”.
But the US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said the resolution, carefully crafted by Brazilian diplomats, was unacceptable because it made no mention of Israel’s right to self-defence. The UK abstained, saying the resolution lacked mention of the way Hamas was using ordinary Palestinians as human shields.
The US ambassador said she was horrified and saddened by the loss of life, but that the actions of Hamas had brought about the humanitarian crisis. She also called for time to let Joe Biden’s diplomacy play out.
Israel thanked the US for using its veto. China described the move as “nothing short of unbelievable” while Russia said it was an example of US double standards.
Two members of the G7 on the council – Japan and France – broke with the US by backing the motion.
The draft resolution also called for “humanitarian pauses to allow full, rapid, safe and unhindered humanitarian access for United Nations humanitarian agencies”. Its failure to pass represented another blow to the authority of the world body.
www.theguardian.com
The text – supported by 12 of the 15 members of the security council on Wednesday – contained criticism of “heinous terrorist crimes by Hamas” and made no direct reference of Israel. In an attempt to win US support, the draft resolution did not explicitly call for a ceasefire, instead referencing a “humanitarian pause”.
But the US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said the resolution, carefully crafted by Brazilian diplomats, was unacceptable because it made no mention of Israel’s right to self-defence. The UK abstained, saying the resolution lacked mention of the way Hamas was using ordinary Palestinians as human shields.
The US ambassador said she was horrified and saddened by the loss of life, but that the actions of Hamas had brought about the humanitarian crisis. She also called for time to let Joe Biden’s diplomacy play out.
Israel thanked the US for using its veto. China described the move as “nothing short of unbelievable” while Russia said it was an example of US double standards.
Two members of the G7 on the council – Japan and France – broke with the US by backing the motion.
The draft resolution also called for “humanitarian pauses to allow full, rapid, safe and unhindered humanitarian access for United Nations humanitarian agencies”. Its failure to pass represented another blow to the authority of the world body.
US vetoes UN’s call for ‘humanitarian pause’ and corridors into Gaza
Ambassador says text was unacceptable as it did not mention Israel’s right to self-defence
CAIRO, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Hamas' armed wing the Izz el-Deen al-Qassam Brigades has released two U.S. hostages - a mother and her daughter - "for humanitarian reasons" in response to Qatari mediation efforts, its spokesman Abu Ubaida said in a statement on Friday.
Abu Ubaida said they released the citizens "for humanitarian reasons, and to prove to the American people and the world that the claims made by (President Joe) Biden and his fascist administration are false and baseless."
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Abu Ubaida said they released the citizens "for humanitarian reasons, and to prove to the American people and the world that the claims made by (President Joe) Biden and his fascist administration are false and baseless."
Released by Hamas, American mother, daughter reunited with family
Two newly freed American hostages, a Chicago-area woman and her teenage daughter, were reunited with family inside Israel on Friday as relatives celebrated back home in Illinois, nearly two weeks after Hamas gunmen abducted them and dozens of others near Gaza.
Well shoot, I'm convinced - grab a guitar and let's sit around the campfire and sing kumbayaCAIRO, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Hamas' armed wing the Izz el-Deen al-Qassam Brigades has released two U.S. hostages - a mother and her daughter - "for humanitarian reasons" in response to Qatari mediation efforts, its spokesman Abu Ubaida said in a statement on Friday.
Abu Ubaida said they released the citizens "for humanitarian reasons, and to prove to the American people and the world that the claims made by (President Joe) Biden and his fascist administration are false and baseless."
Released by Hamas, American mother, daughter reunited with family
Two newly freed American hostages, a Chicago-area woman and her teenage daughter, were reunited with family inside Israel on Friday as relatives celebrated back home in Illinois, nearly two weeks after Hamas gunmen abducted them and dozens of others near Gaza.
Chances are they both were a couple of "Karens" and even the terrorists couldn't take their mouth running all day and night.
Good move on their part, and I doubt that humanitarian reasons played any part of the decision. Releasing two Americans creates a bit of hope that more hostages will be released, and creates discussion in Israel about whether or not to go in with ground forces. It was a delaying tactic.CAIRO, Oct 20 (Reuters) - Hamas' armed wing the Izz el-Deen al-Qassam Brigades has released two U.S. hostages - a mother and her daughter - "for humanitarian reasons" in response to Qatari mediation efforts, its spokesman Abu Ubaida said in a statement on Friday.
Abu Ubaida said they released the citizens "for humanitarian reasons, and to prove to the American people and the world that the claims made by (President Joe) Biden and his fascist administration are false and baseless."
Released by Hamas, American mother, daughter reunited with family
Two newly freed American hostages, a Chicago-area woman and her teenage daughter, were reunited with family inside Israel on Friday as relatives celebrated back home in Illinois, nearly two weeks after Hamas gunmen abducted them and dozens of others near Gaza.
I get that many hate Republicans here...your choice your life...but the few polls I have seen have shown more Republicans support for Israel than Dem or Independent. (Polls...trash anyway)
They marched on the White House to make their demands clear: a Biden-brokered ceasefire — now; the release of hostages held by Hamas militants; more forceful American condemnation of Israel’s bombing of Gaza; and, eventually, major changes to the current Israeli government’s treatment of Palestinians.
The protestors, gathered Monday afternoon by progressive Jewish American activist organizations, represented various segments of the US political left: Palestinian and Israeli Americans, Jewish and Muslim people, longtime activists, and newer allies sympathetic to a more nuanced position of peace and reform for Israel and Palestine.
But they also represent a more mainstream progressive vision of Palestinian liberation and anti-Zionism than the one elevated in the days after the Hamas attack last week. Early news coverage, social media algorithms, and politicians and commentators from both major parties zeroed in on protests celebrating Hamas, social media posts by far-left groups, and open letters and rallies organized on college campuses as the true face of the American left. But many of these activists and organizers have spent the last week rebutting that image, refocusing the political and media narrative about the consequences of the Israel-Hamas war and American complicity, and building up support for American diplomacy from the grassroots and in Washington.
This wasn’t the first major demonstration in the capital — a weekend protest organized by the pro-Palestinian advocacy group American Muslims for Palestine also drew thousands — but these anti-war protestors marched to the White House as their calls picked up institutional recognition and support in the halls of Congress. On Monday, 13 progressive members of Congress — not just the Squad — signed on to a resolution calling on the Biden administration to broker an immediate ceasefire in Israel and Palestine and urge de-escalation in order to bring humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip.
“That resolution represents what most of us actually want to see,” Beth Miller, the political director of Jewish Voice for Peace Action, one of the groups that organized the Monday protest, told Vox. “The most important thing for our members of Congress to understand and for the general American public to understand is that there is no military solution to what is happening right now. Israel is dropping bombs on entire families and neighborhoods of people, and it will not solve anything. It will only lead to more violence in the long run.”
www.vox.com
The protestors, gathered Monday afternoon by progressive Jewish American activist organizations, represented various segments of the US political left: Palestinian and Israeli Americans, Jewish and Muslim people, longtime activists, and newer allies sympathetic to a more nuanced position of peace and reform for Israel and Palestine.
But they also represent a more mainstream progressive vision of Palestinian liberation and anti-Zionism than the one elevated in the days after the Hamas attack last week. Early news coverage, social media algorithms, and politicians and commentators from both major parties zeroed in on protests celebrating Hamas, social media posts by far-left groups, and open letters and rallies organized on college campuses as the true face of the American left. But many of these activists and organizers have spent the last week rebutting that image, refocusing the political and media narrative about the consequences of the Israel-Hamas war and American complicity, and building up support for American diplomacy from the grassroots and in Washington.
This wasn’t the first major demonstration in the capital — a weekend protest organized by the pro-Palestinian advocacy group American Muslims for Palestine also drew thousands — but these anti-war protestors marched to the White House as their calls picked up institutional recognition and support in the halls of Congress. On Monday, 13 progressive members of Congress — not just the Squad — signed on to a resolution calling on the Biden administration to broker an immediate ceasefire in Israel and Palestine and urge de-escalation in order to bring humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip.
“That resolution represents what most of us actually want to see,” Beth Miller, the political director of Jewish Voice for Peace Action, one of the groups that organized the Monday protest, told Vox. “The most important thing for our members of Congress to understand and for the general American public to understand is that there is no military solution to what is happening right now. Israel is dropping bombs on entire families and neighborhoods of people, and it will not solve anything. It will only lead to more violence in the long run.”
What do leftist critics of Israel do now?
How the mainstream left is trying to save its approach to Israel from the pro-Hamas fringe.
www.vox.com
There’s a dozen Americans that could fund all of it, and still live like kings.
Meanwhile Gavin actually traveled to Israel and met with families.
Governor Newsom Travels to Israel | California Governor
TEL AVIV – Governor Gavin Newsom released the below statement following his visit to Israel ahead of traveling to China. While in Israel, the Governor met with survivors, impacted families, and others.
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