Shulte hasn’t been tackling very well either. Even Castro has been a little sloppy tackling people. Actually, against Minnesota, Deshun Lee probably tackled better than anyone in the secondary. Phil needs to get that fixed.
Ohio State allowing 1.83 yds/rush attempt (#3 Nationally). Do we have a Pass Offense that will work when needed?
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OSU may put 11 in the box and live or die vs the Iowa passing game.
The clones seem to have a pulse. Gophers seemed to have a pulse, some would say they were robbed against Michigan.
Who has OSU played?
Why wouldn't you?
I expect this to look very much like Iowa v Penn St, Iowa v Michigan or Iowa v Tennessee last year.
I mean he’s happy Cade completed a high percentage but we only had like 60 yards
That’s progress a week after the forward pass was invented. Not in todays game.
It will not cut it against the better teams, especially ones that can slow down KJ
Well, we are going to find out how much they allow to the 6th ranked rushing team. ( with a couple that are ranked higher being teams that almost always run the ball like Army). OSU is running the ball too though at 11th ranked, so we need to win in the trenches and we need to do it from the first play to the last play. Trench warfare baby!!!
Didn't need to throw. They could not stop the run even knowing #2 was getting the ball.
I just hope we don't have a lot of posts during the game and postgame like this: "What the hell were they working on during the bye week?"
This is true. Minnesota has had a pretty darn good defense in recent years, and seeing them contain Michigan (3.6 per carry) was also encouraging. But Cade is still going to have to deliver at some point Saturday.
Answer, they were cleaning up a few things.I just hope we don't have a lot of posts during the game and postgame like this: "What the hell were they working on during the bye week?"
It’s Ohio state, they’re all DBs, just not all defensive backs
That is a lock. Probably within first few minutes of the game.I just hope we don't have a lot of posts during the game and postgame like this: "What the hell were they working on during the bye week?"
TOSU could easily go man coverage and load the box. Destroying the run.
It's like I'm reading a thread from Sissy U. What a bunch of pansy's. Just because we have to play the best team money can buy does not mean you have the green light to piss your pants. My goodness it's become embarrassing.
200th win in the shoe where wins are hard to come by. Yeah he sheds a tear.
But they did throw it 19 times for a total of 62 yards for 3.3 yards per attempt. That's bad.
Is it? By my numbers 3.3 on every down is winning football. And eats a ton of clock. Yeah 5 would be better for sure. Not arguing that. We need to play better. Remember how Wisconsin used to chew teams up?? Then cram it down your throat? Bust off the long one? The one thing about football is it is a game of inches and the other team is going to make you earn those inches............. at their expense. The more you make it cost them, the better. Because in the end, that is a game of willpower. And willpower beats talent and numbers all day every day. Been that way since the beginning of time. It is what legends and stories are written from.
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Averaging 5 yards/pass attempt would absolutely not be good.
There are more than 50 teams at 6 yards/attempt
Yeah. That's actually really really terrible for the passing game. To put it in perspective, the worst passing offense in the country this year is New Mexico St who averages 4.11 yards per attempt.
And no, I am certain that Wisconsin never averaged even close to that number in modern times.
And I think this team has the willpower. I think this team came back for a reason. If this is not the reason, then I have no idea what they are waiting for.
How is their rushing game? You do understand you have to be able to walk before you can run, right? We are 6th in the nation in rushing. Playing ISU and Minnesota. We are not an option team like Army. We can throw the ball, or did everyone miss the throw to Gill in the end zone vs Ill State? We got this boys. And if it comes down to special teams? We really got this. Running a tight ship in Iowa City for sure.
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Ok. I think that's a different story from the one you were originally commenting on. Are you asking about Iowa's running game or Wisconsin? You're all over the place here.
No, what I am saying is of the teams that have "bad" passing yardage, where are they in rushing yardage? If they can't pass the ball and can't run the ball, then they are just bad all the way around on offense. But when you can run the ball, you do not need a ton of passing yards. You need enough for however the game is going, but it's not like you need 300 yards passing when you are rushing for 250 plus. Depending on how the game is going, you might only need 100 yards passing. So what I am saying is using the stats of yardage of the passing game to decide if a team is good or bad as a passing team is kind of not such a good way to determine that. Now completion percentage might be a better indicator, who knows. Which all this goes back to a comment I made this summer how I would rather have an efficient QB then a QB with a big arm and how everyone was always saying "he has a cannon for an arm" whenever we would bring in a qb and we saw how that worked out for us. We have been thinking we need to pass the ball to open up the run game and here comes Lester saying no, we need to run the ball to open the passing game. So as fans we are still all getting our jocks in a bunch over the passing game, when really it seems to be coming along just fine. Yeah eventually we are going to struggle to run the ball, but we have shown that even with stacked boxes, it is hard to make us struggle in that area. I guess, yeah we are going to need to throw the ball, maybe this week, maybe next month, but if we don't need to throw much, why would we? Plus think about this. We are a dangerous team, because if we can run the ball with stacked boxes, imagine what is going to happen when the passing game takes a step forward and really makes them pay for stacking the box.
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I don't use total yardage. You're correct in that Iowa has an excellent running game which they need to lean on for success. With respect to the passing game, I'm only really interested in efficiency. Yards per attempt and QBR are efficiency metrics. Iowa's are bad. Ohio State has an excellent defense. Iowa will need to have an excellent day running the ball because they haven't shown that they can hurt anyone through the air. If they can't have a big day running it's gonna get really ugly, like it has the last few years when facing good opponents.
I understand what you are saying, what I am trying to convey is idc if we throw for 5 yards every time, as long as we only need 4. I think the evolution of this offense is this, first we are going run the ball. and we are, then we are going to work on the short passing game and we are. Then we can talk longer passes. What gives me a stiffy is that OSU has young line backers that defend the short pass. Can we exploit that? Maybe we have some pretty good TE's and RB's that can catch the ball as well. Plus Gill is good at finding holes and our freshman wr is pretty tall and fights for the ball as well. We should be able to test their LB's in both the run and pass game. And if we can, that plays right into what we want to do, keep the offense on the field and theirs off the field.
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Stanley's completion percentage going into the OSU game the last time we beat them? 131/228 (57%). 7.5 yards per attempt, though... Averaged over 2 TD and 0.5 INT per game through 8 games.
What does this mean? Absolutely nothing! I just threw some numbers into a spreadsheet. I'm just bored and excited for the game.
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